Coronavirus - COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #25

[gitana1]

I’m sure you’ve all seen this?

Throngs of travelers arriving back in the US are jam-packed in airports after Trump's coronavirus travel ban

 

[happyday]

Please don’t wish for that.

But...I haven’t trusted him since day one. Something doesn’t feel right. Bad virus and all. But shutting down things? For how long? We have had infectious diseases since the beginning of time. And this feels wrong somehow. Not saying it isn’t serious.

But how many die of flu?

CDC said on Thursday that 20,000 people in the US alone have died of flu since January 1 of this year. Compare that to 5,000 worldwide from CV.[/

It’s odd to me too. The numbers don’t match the mass hysteria and talk of forced quarantines and martial law. It’s a virus to take seriously and we all need to do our part to stop the spread, but this is sort of becoming unreal to me.

 

[gitana1]

I got this link from the twitter page of Dr. Syra Madad. She is a senior director of Systems Special Pathogens Program in NY and was on the Netflix docuseries Pandemic. I’ve been regularly checking her twitter page since I first saw the docuseries. (shortly after the news broke in China)

9 coronavirus charts everyone should see

Dr. Syra Madad’s Twitter: Dr. Syra Madad (@syramadad) on Twitter

I’m afraid to click but she’s the one who estimated 40-70% of Americans may get this.

 

[Tillicum]

I live in a large retirement community in central FL. I am seeing some evidence of snowbirds heading home early. A number of nearby homes are closed up.

The mad rush for supplies has slowed, thank goodness. I plan to shop tomorrow at Publix. Our stock of fresh food is low.

I eat a low-carb diet, and it is really tough to be good right now. I've been craving some mashed potatoes and gravy comfort food!

Stuffing! My big weakness. I need stuffing now.

 

[gregjrichards]

The memorial thread for all the victims who have lost their lives to the virus is now open in the Private Forums - The Jury Room-Rest In Peace - We Will Miss You section.

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/covid-19-coronavirus-memorial-thread.513454/

 

[Alethea]

More people die in car accidents daily in the US than this. I totally understand fear- but hysteria is just making things worse.

And we as a society take many measures to try to prevent and limit car crashes and mitigate the injuries from car crashes - we have speed limits, laws on DUI, we require seat belts, kids in car seats, age limits to drive, licensing, eye tests. Cars themselves are regulated and go through extensive safety testing. Car manufacturers are responsible for manufacturing defects. The list goes on.

 

[escape2sc]

@escape2sc

Homeschooling relies on the dedication of parents. There are a lot of parents who both work full-time and can't homeschool. Usually it also relies on a lot of money to acquire curriculum/textbooks, materials, etc but thankfully a lot of software and websites are opening up for free during this time of crisis.

There also is no "system" in place, the homeschooling community (which I am part of, have been my whole life) has made sure of it.

I agree with you. What I should have said is that homeschooling has shown children can be educated and graduate without attending a school building. By system, I was referring to my experience with the public school system when I homeschooled my daughter for a year due to medical reasons. I was required to abide by their guidelines of work and testing and failure to do so could result in charges of truancy.

 

[EstrellaEspectral]

I’m afraid to click but she’s the one who estimated 40-70% of Americans may get this.

Sadly, while she was saying this, she also was warning of how ill prepared the US is and how we lack the funding to deal with this. This is a hard topic to not get political with, so I will stop myself now. Hopefully in the future we will have learned our lesson.

 

[Sweetsbeach]

A friend of mine in Maryland posted on fb she just received an email from Sky Zone the indoor Trampoline Park, letting everyone know they will be having camps for kids because of the school closings!
I hope their corporate office and Maryland state officials get flooded with phone calls.

 

[epiphany]

Can a person get the coronavirus more than once?

Can you get coronavirus twice?

<snip> Scientists agree reinfection is an unlikely explanation for patients who test positive a second time, according to the Los Angeles Times, and note the possibility that testing errors, and releasing patients from hospitals too prematurely, are more likely the reason for reports of patients who retest positive.

<snip> Fukuda [Dir of Hong Kong University’s School of Public Health] told the paper that it’s more likely patients are being released from hospitals while carrying dormant fragments of the disease that are not infectious, but resemble the virus when tested.

“The test may be positive, but the infection is not there,” he said.

<snip> “We haven’t formally proved it, but it is strongly likely that that’s the case,” Fauci [Anthony Fauci, Dir of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease] said. “Because if this acts like any other virus, once you recover, you won’t get reinfected.”

 

[Lato]

Significant community spread in New Orleans.
Mayor of New Orleans and a large group, including Health Department, are on www.WDSU.com

 

[gitana1]

It’s odd to me too. The numbers don’t match the mass hysteria and talk of forced quarantines and martial law. It’s a virus to take seriously and we all need to do our part to stop the spread, but this is sort of becoming unreal to me.

How long have you been closely following this thread and this virus? I notice that the longer and more closely someone has followed the trajectory of the virus since Wuhan the more concerned they are and less likely to think this is nonsense.

Since people cannot be convinced to do their part (continuing to sneeze into their hands and handle money or touch pads, continuing to cough freely into the air, packing into bars, spring break events, shows), then stricter measures are going to considered necessary more and more by government officials and supported by the public.

The numbers do match the “hysteria”. China controlled the crisis with severe measures that I found appalling. They went door to door with temperature checks and hauled people out of their homes, screaming, and shoved them into quarantine camps. They forced people to remain inside and the streets went totally dead.

That’s how they controlled the spread. That should scare the hell out of everyone. Because that’s how they controlled it and the numbers were still high.

26% of those who needed hospital care needed to be in the ICU. Death rate for those who tested positive was what, about ten times the rate of the flu?

People survive but some with permanent lung damage.

I try hard to keep perspective. We have a problem though with continued minimization, confusion and misinformation. And that has exacerbated the spread.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

That’s frustrating. I think some people are in such denial as a defense mechanism because they really can’t face it.

I think the economy is what's making him downplay it. At least he respects my views on it and understands why I feel the way I do. I'm generally very laid back and I normally don't get too hyped about things so he's not used to me being on high alert like I am. He feels bad that I feel the way I do about it.

I'm sure we're not the only couple having the same disconnect in regards to Covid-19.

 

[anneg]

I know last week my hubby and I were reluctant to go to church in case the huggers didn't keep their distance (OMG so much has changed in a week). Anyway we decided to go and insist the huggers distance themselves and run for the exit if they didn't. A lady in her late 60s hugged us just before service started and we were seated and impossible to get away from her. She even kissed my hubby on the forehead! I'll never forget the look on his face! I love her dearly but I'm afraid my feelings toward her are very different now. I think as this all unfolds we will be reevaluating our relationships with others. In the beginning I worried about offending someone by refusing to shake hands. Now I'm offended that anyone would try.

I understand. We sing in the church choir and a week ago we were there in church singing. But we were asked not to shake hands during passing the peace; the communion was bread only, dropped into our hands; and the offering plates were not passed down the pews. I told our choir director that I wouldn't be surprised if church services and events were canceled. And sure enough, by Thursday, they were. This morning we "attended" our church's online service instead.

It's mind boggling how much has happened in the past week. I fear there is much more to come. This thread is a lifeline but can add to my stress, and I have to not spend too much time here, or reading/watching news.

I'm praying for my family, my friends and relatives around the country, and for everyone who will suffer from this virus and its effects. And for the wonderful posters here in this thread!

 

[gitana1]

The memorial thread for all the victims who have lost their lives to the virus is now open in the Private Forums - The Jury Room-Rest In Peace - We Will Miss You section.

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/covid-19-coronavirus-memorial-thread.513454/

We don’t have any websleuthers who have passed, do we?

 

[Trudie]

So, MOO based on our local PC, the rogue KY positive patient is possibly calling media & lashing out on SM. More at 6 after the news is updated.

 

[24Roses]

Academy of Country Music Awards postponed amid coronavirus outbreak No ACM awards in April. Not listed in this article, but IMO it is going to be in September but no link to that. I have to admit I'm a bit dissapointed in that since all the sports are shut down now. Normally I would be watching NCAA basketball, NASCAR, and the Chicago Cubs.

 

[Lato]

New Orleans now...... www.wdsu.com
Pilot program involving testing is in progress of being developed.....initially for those who need it.
Mayor had to send police to Bourbon Street, Magazine Street and Frenchman Street to break up big groups of people last night.
Chief of Police talking....needs cooperation.

 

[gitana1]

I know last week my hubby and I were reluctant to go to church in case the huggers didn't keep their distance (OMG so much has changed in a week). Anyway we decided to go and insist the huggers distance themselves and run for the exit if they didn't. A lady in her late 60s hugged us just before service started and we were seated and impossible to get away from her. She even kissed my hubby on the forehead! I'll never forget the look on his face! I love her dearly but I'm afraid my feelings toward her are very different now. I think as this all unfolds we will be reevaluating our relationships with others. In the beginning I worried about offending someone by refusing to shake hands. Now I'm offended that anyone would try.

I think it’s a combination of ignorance and deep denial and anger. People are scared of the reality of this so they do things to deny that reality. Walking my dog certain neighbors were insisting I come close, cross the street and congregate with another neighbor. These are people in their 70’s. They were annoyed I wouldn’t. Happily my dog is an excuse as she is still training and doesn’t like strangers.

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

Breaking: they're throwing the parties now. What do you think thousands of HS and college kids kicked out of school are going to do for the next three months with nowhere to go and nothing to do. Mine are telling me what they and their friends are doing.

My high school senior and college junior are keeping their butts away from other people. It is not a choice for them.

Isn't this the same generation that everyone was complaining just wanted to sit inside on their computers? They can text, FaceTime, or whatever it is they do now.