Coronavirus - COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #27

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  • #201
Minnesota just closed all bars, health clubs, food courts, museums, zoos, no gatherings over 50 (think movies), dine-in at restaurants. This means no I-Hop, no Cracker Barrel, no Perkins, no Chili's, no Red Lobster, and no white tablecloth places - except carry-out. Who would order a steak carry-out? And, could you get a glass of wine with that?

how many hourly workers are now out of a job? I see the need -- but am not sure people see the repercussions, how far the rings will travel for each drop in the bucket?
 
  • #202
how many hourly workers are now out of a job? I see the need -- but am not sure people see the repercussions, how far the rings will travel for each drop in the bucket?

I keep wondering the same thing, It is scary. How will these people pay their bills???
 
  • #203
Took my dogs for their daily walk and ride in the car and could not believe what I saw- it is like no one is paying attention. Stores packed - not only grocery stores but Best Buy, craft stores, clothing stores. I just don't get it. Kroger has a HUGE parking lot and it was full. Restaurants were packed.

Meanwhile, 33 cases are being tested in the local hospital system.

I drove past IKEA here in my town. The parking lot was crowded. Like a normal day. WTH????? I guess we really do need to close this stuff down to save us from the morons. NOTHING at IKEA is necessary....IMHO

Edited to say I am in Michigan.
 
  • #204
No swimming for me. We just got notified everything is closed for recreations until further notice.
 
  • #205
I wonder if there have been any warnings about money, ie bills, coins, etc.

" New research suggests the coronavirus can last between three hours and three days on surfaces, depending on the material. "
The new coronavirus lives on surfaces for 3 hours to 3 days, new research says. Here's how to disinfect them properly.
New research published Wednesday from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) supports Graham's assessment. The study suggests the virus can live up to four hours on copper, up to a day on cardboard, and up to three days on plastic and stainless steel. The coronavirus can also live in the air for up to three hours, the study authors found.
The COVID-19 effect on transportation: no cash turnpike tolls, no license centers, no construction
 
  • #206
I think at this point just take 1 day at a time. Honestly, if I have a heart condition and need treatment, I'll risk getting the virus. I might die from either one. There are only 2 cases in my state.

only two confirmed ... many more that have not been tested
 
  • #207
WHO Director-General's opening remarks at the media briefing on COVID-19 - 16 March 2020
16 March 2020

“Good afternoon everyone.

In the past week, we have seen a rapid escalation of cases of COVID-19.

More cases and deaths have now been reported in the rest of the world than in China.

We have also seen a rapid escalation in social distancing measures, like closing schools and cancelling sporting events and other gatherings.

But we have not seen an urgent enough escalation in testing, isolation and contact tracing – which is the backbone of the response.

Social distancing measures can help to reduce transmission and enable health systems to cope.

Handwashing and coughing into your elbow can reduce the risk for yourself and others.

But on their own, they are not enough to extinguish this pandemic. It’s the combination that makes the difference.

As I keep saying, all countries must take a comprehensive approach.

But the most effective way to prevent infections and save lives is breaking the chains of transmission. And to do that, you must test and isolate.

You cannot fight a fire blindfolded. And we cannot stop this pandemic if we don’t know who is infected.

We have a simple message for all countries: test, test, test.

Test every suspected case.

If they test positive, isolate them and find out who they have been in close contact with up to 2 days before they developed symptoms, and test those people too. [NOTE: WHO recommends testing contacts of confirmed cases only if they show symptoms of COVID-19]

Every day, more tests are being produced to meet the global demand.

WHO has shipped almost 1.5 million tests to 120 countries. We’re working with companies to increase the availability of tests for those most in need.

WHO advises that all confirmed cases, even mild cases, should be isolated in health facilities, to prevent transmission and provide adequate care.

But we recognize that many countries have already exceeded their capacity to care for mild cases in dedicated health facilities.

In that situation, countries should prioritize older patients and those with underlying conditions.

Some countries have expanded their capacity by using stadiums and gyms to care for mild cases, with severe and critical cases cared for in hospitals.

Another option is for patients with mild disease to be isolated and cared for at home.

Caring for infected people at home may put others in the same household at risk, so it’s critical that care-givers follow WHO’s guidance on how to provide care as safely as possible.

For example, both the patient and their care-giver should wear a medical mask when they are together in the same room.

The patient should sleep in a separate bedroom to others and use a different bathroom.

Assign one person to care for the patient, ideally someone who is in good health and has no underlying conditions.

The care-giver should wash their hands after any contact with the patient or their immediate environment.

People infected with COVID-19 can still infect others after they stop feeling sick, so these measures should continue for at least two weeks after symptoms disappear.

Visitors should not be allowed until the end of this period.

There are more details in WHO’s guidance.

===

Once again, our key message is: test, test, test.

This is a serious disease. Although the evidence we have suggests that those over 60 are at highest risk, young people, including children, have died.

WHO has issued new clinical guidance, with specific details on how to care for children, older people and pregnant women.

So far, we have seen epidemics in countries with advanced health systems. But even they have struggled to cope.

As the virus moves to low-income countries, we're deeply concerned about the impact it could have among populations with high HIV prevalence, or among malnourished children.

That’s why we’re calling on every country and every individual to do everything they can to stop transmission.

Washing your hands will help to reduce your risk of infection. But it’s also an act of solidarity because it reduces the risk you will infect others in your community and around the world. Do it for yourself, do it for others.

We also ask people to express their solidarity by refraining from hoarding essential items, including medicines.

Hoarding can create shortages of medicines and other essential products, which can exacerbate suffering.

We’re grateful to everyone who has contributed to the COVID-19 Solidarity Response Fund.

Since we launched it on Friday, more than 110,000 people have contributed almost 19 million U.S. dollars.

These funds will help to buy diagnostic tests, supplies for health workers and support research and development.

If you would like to contribute, please go to who.int and click on the orange “Donate” button at the top of the page.

We’re also grateful for the way different sectors of society are coming together.

This started with the SafeHands Challenge, which has attracted celebrities, world leaders and people everywhere demonstrating how to wash their hands.

This afternoon WHO and the International Chamber of Commerce issued a joint call to action to the global business community. The ICC will send regular advice to its network of more than 45 million businesses, to protect their workers, customers and local communities, and to support the production and distribution of essential supplies.

I’d like to thank Paul Polman, Ajay Banga and John Denton for their support and collaboration.

WHO is also working with Global Citizen to launch the Solidarity Sessions, a series of virtual concerts with leading musicians from around the world.

===

This is the defining global health crisis of our time.

The days, weeks and months ahead will be a test of our resolve, a test of our trust in science, and a test of solidarity.

Crises like this tend to bring out the best and worst in humanity.

Like me, I’m sure you have been touched by the videos of people applauding health workers from their balconies, or the stories of people offering to do grocery shopping for older people in their community.

This amazing spirit of human solidarity must become even more infectious than the virus itself. Although we may have to be physically apart from each other for a while, we can come together in ways we never have before.

We’re all in this together. And we can only succeed together.

So the rule of the game is: together.

Thank you.”

——-

The above transcription is as always Doc T’s remarks only

Full conference including Q&A here with Dr. Maria & another WHO member at below link / Dr. Mike appears by phone:

Press briefings

• 13 March / Friday’s full briefing (and others) are also at the above link, including Friday’s PC & Q & A with Dr. Mike and Dr. Maria which are a must watch
 
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  • #208
Primitive camping, off grid. Not a bad idea. I wonder if they packed TP?
Speaking of toilet paper, I checked three stores today and all meat counters are empty and the entire aisle for paper products, empty. Very concerning and really hitting home.
No bleach, no sanitizing wipes, no disinfectant wipes or hand sanitizer either. No anti-bacterial soap except for two packs of three bars each of Dial soap I found that had fallen behind the face soap.
 
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Can I laugh a little? At the beanie, face mask and gloves?

I was reading that good old sunshine is lethal to the virus. I live in a very sunny area and have lots of garden fences so I drape it all out in the sun to dry.

Yes, please, :) take time to laugh, and if you really want a chuckle-- check out the new style in face masks. Mine wasn't at all as glamorous, but I'm considering bedazzling a face mask in my future of endless isolation.

Instagram stars don coronavirus face masks without sacrificing on style | Daily Mail Online
 
  • #213
So while I am set up to work from home for the next two weeks - and not going out unless it's for food - am all set here. Even cleaned my home office which will help me, I need a clean area to work in.
 
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Reuters: VENEZUELA'S MADURO SAYS ENTIRE COUNTRY WILL ENTER QUARANTINE ON TUESDAY DUE TO CORONAVIRUS

Vincent Lee on Twitter

STAY HOME, SAVE LIVES
 
  • #215
I wonder if there have been any warnings about money, ie bills, coins, etc.

" New research suggests the coronavirus can last between three hours and three days on surfaces, depending on the material. "
The new coronavirus lives on surfaces for 3 hours to 3 days, new research says. Here's how to disinfect them properly.
New research published Wednesday from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) supports Graham's assessment. The study suggests the virus can live up to four hours on copper, up to a day on cardboard, and up to three days on plastic and stainless steel. The coronavirus can also live in the air for up to three hours, the study authors found.
Get cash from an ATM, so that hopefully, it wasn’t handled very much by a human. Those money counting machines save a lot of human counting and touching of the bills.
 
  • #216
So while I am set up to work from home for the next two weeks - and not going out unless it's for food - am all set here. Even cleaned my home office which will help me, I need a clean area to work in.

Me too, except my home office is the kitchen table. Just the spouse, myself and 4 dogs of leisure at my house so the kitchen table serves as my desk and I do keep it clean.
 
  • #217
It’s a crazy mistake he’s making. And unfortunately we aren’t closing state borders so mistakes like these made on the state level will affect other states.

It makes no sense to me. I think the fear can be tempered by best practices. Best practices being, avoiding large groups where it's impossible to enforce reasonable distances, etc. But this opposite behavior, though, this cavalier attitude of believing it's been blown out of proportion, is the other end of the spectrum. Sitting around in bars where people are laughing loudly, leaning in to others to talk because of the noise, sharing communal meals like nachos and dips. Ugh.

I'm not sure how you could enforce closing state borders. It would be the same here in Canada: it would be almost impossible to stop cross province traveling considering the multitude of roads, none of which are monitored, unlike a legitimate border between countries.
 
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Our experience attempting to get tested for CoV19 today.

My DH's employer has a testing clinic set up for employees and their families. Call your employer, health insurance provider, your local hospital or your County Health Dept to find a location where you can get tested if you are sick.

First we called and the nurse asked about travel history, who we had come into contact with, our symptoms, etc. They gave us an appointment time and told us where to park, to stay in our vehicle and to call when we arrived. When we got there for our appointment there was a nurse in PPE talking to another patient in his car. Parking was limited (only 4 spaces). At first we parked with one parking space separating us from the other car (the farthest away we could get). The nurse waved at us without approaching, then went inside and called us on the phone. She asked us to move our vehicle to separate more from the other car. We had to park where there technically wasn't a legal parking space but we complied.

Next we waited and waited and waited. We watched the nurse make 3 trips to the other car and then the other car left. It took about 30 minutes for the person before us to be assessed and leave and then we waited another 30 minutes after that. My DH was frustrated about an hour after our appointment time and he almost went inside. But I convinced him to call instead and make sure they had not forgotten us, since we had moved our car away from the designated parking spaces like we were told to do. He called. They had not forgotten us. The nurse came out minutes later and apologized for the wait but she explained this was the first day they have done this and they are being extra careful. They have to change their PPE and get new gloves, new mask, new protective smock between each patient and between each sample collected, and they have to clean and disinfect everything thoroughly.

The nurse started by taking my temperature and my heart rate with a finger pulse reader. She asked me my symptoms. Then she explained they were first going to test for influenza. That test takes 10 minutes and if it is negative then they would test for other things. The test was a very painful nasal swab. It hurt so bad tears ran down my checks involuntarily. The nurse was very sweet and apologetic. She told me that unfortunately if the flu test was negative the next one would also be a nasal swab. She went back in to run my test and change her PPE. Next she came out and did the same flu test for DH. DH's symptoms are still worse than mine today. He couldn't stop coughing and he nearly threw up when the nurse swabbed his nose (did I mention it's painful? My nose still hurts from the swab).

Both our Flu tests came back negative. The nurse called my DH on the phone and asked him a bunch more questions about his symptoms and medical history. The nurse came back out and said that they were only going to test DH for other upper respiratory illnesses because he has worse symptoms than me and is higher risk of having it already. They will send the test away to a lab to be tested for a panel of several upper respiratory illnesses and ONLY if those all come back negative, then they will also test for CoV19. She said that if he tests positive for CoV19 they will assume I have it too and I don't need to get tested. DH has to stay home and self isolate for 14 days or until they medically clear him. If DH's test comes back with an upper respiratory illness other than C0V19 then his quarantine is lifted. If he tests positive for CoV19 then I have to stay home too. We also have to keep track of any and all visitors to our house for the 14 days. They gave us a sign-in form for tracking visitors.

At the time I was happy to not have another painful swab done but my poor DH had to have another one for the upper respiratory panel. Then I thought about the implications of this whole thing. What if we have an upper respiratory bug and CoV19 at the same time? What if our flu tests had been positive but we also have CoV19? We wouldn't have even been given the option of a 2nd test. What if DH and I have different illnesses? None of this procedure makes any sense in the context of the seriousness of this illness. Of course it looks like the numbers are low if they refuse to test someone without checking other things first! They didn't tells us and we didn't ask, but I'm sure this is due to a shortage of tests. They are probably rationing tests and it's very difficult to get tested unless you have had direct contact with a CoV19 positive person or unless everything else is ruled out. I don't know how long the additional tests will take either. We forgot to ask. Hopefully they will come back this week.
Thank you for taking the time to go through your day. I'm speechless. Hoping upon hope that everything works out for the best. XO !
 
  • #220
Huge fiasco with instacart over here.

Estimated hold time on phone is over an hour to speak to an agent.

Don’t rely on delivery services. Have a Plan B, and C. Moo.
 
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