Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #31

[FrostOwl]

Fortunately for human beings, a pathogen like 2019-nCoV cannot have its cake and eat it too. The virus cannot be both deadly and undetectable. To illustrate, we can consider the hypothetical examples of a severe and a non-severe respiratory virus.

With a more severe symptoms profile, a respiratory infection will have more sudden onset, earlier symptoms, a higher chance of severity and death, and it will probably cause patients to report to hospitals at an earlier stage of infection. An outbreak of a respiratory virus like this will typically be deadly but containable.

With a less severe symptoms profile, patients may stay in an asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic state for a long time, symptoms appearance may be more gradual than sudden, and progression to hospitalization and death would be rare. An infection like this is difficult to detect and thus difficult to control, but fortunately it is much less lethal.
What is a super spreader? An infectious disease expert explains
Bbm: ianad but suspected all along younger folks had this & continued on as normal. I think a young person is unlikely to seek medical care for a cold, an older person with medical issues probably does so often. If this is true, hard to say how many are infected.

In most cases of viral and bacterial infections, they are not deadly for most people, but for a few people they are going to be deadly. Those who get a mild case of the virus/bacteria will be spreading it, as they don't have enough symptoms to stay at home, but when someone with a compromised immune system catches the virus/bacteria, they get seriously ill, and it can kill them.
For example, for most people a bacterial urinary infection can be painful, but with treatment it will pass. For someone with a compromised immune system, they may get an urosepsis (bacteria in the blood), get severely ill quickly, and die.

 

[TMAN2014]

It's getting real here in New York. We've topped 5k and getting close to the 6k mark of active cases in our state.

My son may be on his way down state. They simply don't have enough manpower to handle the demand down there. Meanwhile, his firehouse is on lock down. Only essential people should be there. He is busier and busier. The rate of robberies and violent crimes has been increasing. (I may be "coming out of retirement" at this rate.) His chief is requesting deferment for them because it would leave our county short and more vulnerable than it all ready is.

The streets are empty. We are all at a standstill. It's eerie.

It's scary. They let prisoners out in NY and PA, and there are a lot of people who need $$. Gun sales spiked here in PA. The brilliant mayor and DA in Philly advertised open season on the citizens by the criminals with his proclamations.

 

[Gardenkeep]

We are in the Twin Tiers. About 3 hrs northeast of New Rochelle.

Crap, I mean northwest. My sense of direction is less than stellar.

 

[Alethea]

California governor issues statewide order to 'stay at home' effective Thursday evening

From this article: “California estimates that more than half of the state — 25.5 million people — will get the new coronavirus over the next eight weeks, according to a letter sent by Gov. Gavin Newsom to U.S. President Donald Trump.”

 

[PayrollNerd]

I have reached out to the Oncology nurse who facilitates my cancer support group, regarding the home sewn face masks. I’ve given her the link I saw here from that hospital. I received an out of office reply stating she will be back Monday. As soon as she lets me know her thoughts, I’ll follow up. I’ve put my sewing and quilting friends on notice.

Today was my treatment day at the cancer center in Tampa. Everyone was screened upon entry. Turnstiles were not in use, only the touch free doors. The place was spotless which is normal. No therapy dogs were there. Only 1 person was allowed to accompany a patient, finally!!. It looked to me like the only people wearing masks were the very ill and those that probably had a transplant.

In my treatment area, there were no masks being worn. Treatment stations were not any additional distance apart. They are only separated by a curtain. The nurses desk was packed. There’s no relief for these front line workers. My heart breaks for them. They are so kind, talking with patients, fetching them drinks and sandwiches. Today a patient started singing a song, and they all joined in.

As I was leaving, I passed a young man with a cart loaded with wipes and gloves. He was wiping down the ledges and hand rails. Every wheel chair used went to the cleaning station before being put back in the line.

Then, there was one belligerent jerk. There’s always one. He kept acting like a drama king to the free valet staff. Apparently, he had been there multiple days. He wasn’t even the patient. The staff couldn’t find his vehicle immediately. The valet staff were amazing. If looks could kill, that fool would have been a pile of ashes.

 

[Trudie]

I just bought a 2 of those medium sized multi-packs, enough to last us about 3 weeks or so. That's plenty. Sad to see some folks can't find any now. It will all be caught up soon, though. Pretty sure we still make most of our own tp, diapers, etc. here in the US.

@Betty P. I had a PT sales job with P & G for years, based out of my home. Every year they sent us a huge gift box with a sampling of their wonderful products. They should do a national mass mailing of gift boxes. They could send detergent, Snacks, toiletries, etc. Obviously they can afford to and they will profit from this pandemic, imo.

 

[Gardenkeep]

It's scary. They let prisoners out in NY and PA, and there are a lot of people who need $$. Gun sales spiked here in PA. The brilliant mayor and DA in Philly advertised open season on the citizens by the criminals with his proclamations.

They have? I knew there was a big movement for "compassionate release". Employee at Rikers tested positive. All visitation has been suspended here.

 

[Kensie]

They have? I knew there was a big movement for "compassionate release". Employee at Rikers tested positive. All visitation has been suspended here.

All prison visitations in person have been suspended in my state too (AL).

 

[CSIDreamer]

If you're running seriously low on toilet paper, try asking a manager if they happen to have any in the back by chance. Even with a limit of 3 packages, it's possible for a household of several people to take turns buying up the limit. And end up with a huge stockpile.

I went in a dollar general today, asked politely, and got 2 packages. They are stocking it out a box or two at a time to try to give more people a chance to get some and avoid mini mob scenes. YMMV

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

I noticed Lonetraveler had a comment about toilet paper not being available and I have the same question: i mean this is the United States of America- i know people are hoarding but how come Costco and other supermarkets don't have toilet paper? you mean there is a shortage? i read there isn't so what is the deal.

people are idiots. Remember when Johnny Carson made a joke about a toilet paper shortage and the next day stores started selling out?

 

[TMAN2014]

They have? I knew there was a big movement for "compassionate release". Employee at Rikers tested positive. All visitation has been suspended here.

Well a police officer was just murdered a few days ago. With this coronavirus, the police were told to not enforce as much, and since then, it has become more violent. Even if there policy changed, maybe they should not have announced it.

 

[LadyL]

From this article: “California estimates that more than half of the state — 25.5 million people — will get the new coronavirus over the next eight weeks, according to a letter sent by Gov. Gavin Newsom to U.S. President Donald Trump.”

wow that scares me

 

[katydid23]

Such a good topic. I don't understand why everyone went and took all the bottled water (and then complain later that they forgot protein).

I had my students compile short lists of things they could/would actually eat and then input into an app to see if they were hitting all their nutrition points (they weren't). OTOH, if pineapple upside down cake is your thing and makes you feel happy (produces endorphins) then perhaps it belongs on the list.

Depends a lot on how long this goes on.

An interesting thing (as compared to 20 years ago), is that so many people have specific food sensitivities, allergies and preferences. Within one household, it's hard for food purchasers (only 2% of my students purchase their own food). They are learning from their moms and grandmas how to provision without needing trips to grocery stores (which they don't usually make themselves - but the risk is less for them, they should start shopping a bit for their families).

We aren't going to lose electricity or water. This isn't an earthquake or a hurricane.

Most people don't truly understand the difference between a virus and a bacteria, which is probably where the MSM should start if they want to be helpful. Of course, that would be a stretch (since there's little investigative journalism these days and most "journalists" are college kids who are paid less than minimum wage for their stringer reports).



OR expect that individuals with such issues not be permitted in airports? Yeah, like that's gonna happen. Better to shut down the world economy (but hey - what terrible repercussions we'll see from that).

Tuberculosis is still a thing (and on the rise), just so people are aware that CorVId19 isn't the only thing to worry about.

I hear ya about the shopping lists. We all have a 'list', but we cannot fulfilling it often anymore.

On our last shopping adventure, 8 days ago, hubby and I went to Walmart at 7:30 am because we heard they had milk. We were able to procure a gallon of 0% milk, and a carton of cream. lol

And at the end of the trip , our cart was full with various foods that we rarely ever buy. We had to take what was left on the shelves.

So cooking this past week was hit and miss. We had no bread. Only 2 packs of bagels. No regular cream cheese, just blueberry. Which I learned to appreciate.

We had corn tortillas instead of wheat bread so we made eggs and turkey sausage and Swiss cheese tortillas for breakfast. I never imagined but it was pretty tasty.

My daughter went to whole foods for us, and we got some fresh fruits and veggies, so that helped a lot too. We made a veggie stir fry the first night.

I wish I could find where I put my blender when we moved. I could sure use a strawberry/ banana
smoothie.

 

[Trudie]

In most cases of viral and bacterial infections, they are not deadly for most people

if a certain age group of younger adults had Covid 19, I can see them carrying on as normal, attributing symptoms to work, classes, stress, and partying, maybe not feeling up to par but well enough to keep on keeping on, unknowingly spreading it. In my link the fact it can live a long time in asymptomatic hosts is most interesting. Weeks, months, or what? If months, it will continue to spread, imo.

 

[Luna20]

Americans Are Flocking to the Safety of Comfort Foods

Did they see me in Walmart today, stocking up on coffee creamer, cookies, popcorn, crackers, coke ??? I think they did,

That’s ok, they saw me with a basket full of peanut M&M’s

 

[justbeachy]

Okaloosa and Walton County beaches closed March 21-April 30! (This is the Destin, Ft. Walton Beach, etc area of the panhandle of Florida)

Okaloosa, Walton County Public Beaches Closed Amid COVID-19 Concerns

 

[escape2sc]

Conway Medical Center - Myrtle Beach 1 patient positive for Covid 19 . My daughter is an ICU nurse here. They have 7 other patients waiting on test results. They are short on supplies - reusing masks, only allowed to wear gowns for contact patient care, N95s locked up and only used for procedures that would cause the patient to expel droplets. All of this against the arguments the Infectious Disease Doctor made to the administrators but all within the guidance of the CDC due to supply shortage. I am terrified for her.

Conway Medical Center confirms 1st positive coronavirus case

 

[escape2sc]

Another Horry County hospital - in the North Myrtle Beach area - close to NC border.

McLeod Seacoast Hospital confirms first coronavirus case

 

[katydid23]

Thank you. I have friends who were visiting Disney World the very same time that this man visited.

I hope you were able to find TP. If Not:


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[LadyL]

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