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The difference is profiting from inside knowledge of a black swan event that may kill millions, while representing to the public, as elected officials, deliberate falsehoods.

No difference to me.
 
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I’m guessing investigations are underway!
I sure hope so and I also hope it is prosecuted. The dotcom bubble and housing crisis bubbles weren't prosecuted. I think Americans are sick of fraud.
JMO
 
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FYI:
What is a black swan?

A black swan
is an unpredictable event that is beyond what is normally expected of a situation and has potentially severe consequences. Black swan events are characterized by their extreme rarity, their severe impact, and the widespread insistence they were obvious in hindsight.

Mar 11, 2020, Investopedia

KEY TAKEAWAYS
  • A black swan is an extremely rare event with severe consequences. It cannot be predicted beforehand, though many claim it should be predictable after the fact.
  • Black swan events can cause catastrophic damage to an economy, and because they cannot be predicted, can only be prepared for by building robust systems.
  • Reliance on standard forecasting tools can both fail to predict and potentially increase vulnerability to black swans by propagating risk and offering false security.
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I have coyote in my yard, right near my house, I walked outside, hoping to scare them off. It is disturbingly quiet, a most eerie feeling. I live rural, but on a heavily traveled state highway, it has never been like this.
 
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OPTIONS..JEREMY KONYNDYK

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So if an 18+ month lockdown isn't an option, and easing up on the measures risks producing another wave of transmission, what to do? The report suggests toggling a suite of control measures on and off periodically until a vaccine comes on line. Jeremy FLATTEN THE CURVE Konyndyk on Twitter

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An alternate best case scenario for the US might play out like this:
Phase 1: a 2-3 month period of massive, disruptive social distancing across the country while we get spread of virus back in check. Basically inevitable at this point (ignore what White House says re: 15 days).

This phase may take longer than it did in China; the US is looking at potentially multiple cities with Wuhan-scale spread, not just one.
And central to China's strategy was widespread testing and rigorous quarantine, which we still (still!) don't have here.

So once explosive spread of the virus is brought to manageable level through huge disruptive measures, we need a phase 2.
Ideally, we want phase 2 to be a sustainable level of greatly enhanced vigilance that allows us to safely re-initiate economic activity and human mobility.

And we have to keep that up for 15+ more months until vaccines become widely available (hopefully).
What does that look like?
South Korea and Singapore provide possible templates - and both center heavily on universally available testing.

This will require a massive & expensive effort. But it's far cheaper and more humane than any feasible alternatives.
Will it work? We can't yet say - we'll need to experiment and iterate with it. But it gives us our best shot, and beats the hell out of an 18-month lockdown.

And here's the key thing: getting the ball rolling on this has to start NOW. Every day we delay phase 2 readiness will compound the length of phase 1 disruption.
Instead the USG is still dithering over reactive measures and claiming the disruption will somehow be short.

The gap between the administration's vision, and what actually needs to happen, is vast.
Time to stop dithering, be clear-eyed about what we're up against, and go big. Starting now.

Jeremy FLATTEN THE CURVE Konyndyk on Twitter
 

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We’re all very concerned, doing the right things, but if this goes on for 18 months as some predict, where will we be? Can we maintain this lifestyle?
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CA: 34 yo male that visited Disneyworld dies 2 weeks after returning home

34-Year-Old Calif. Man Dies of Coronavirus 2 Weeks After Visiting Orlando Theme Parks

A 34-year-old California man has died from COVID-19 two weeks after visiting Orlando, Florida theme parks with his friends, his family announced.

Jeffrey Ghazarian died Thursday morning, less than a week after he was first hospitalized during a severe battle with coronavirus, according to a post written by his family on his Facebook page. (TMZ was the first to report the story.)

“Our sweet, loving, fun Jeffrey went to be with Jesus this morning. He suffered a lot and put up a good fight. We will miss our Jeff everyday but we are thankful for all the fun happy memories of the times we had together,” the post read. “Thank you to everyone who has been praying. We love you all.”

The Glendora resident beat testicular cancer in 2016 and had a history of asthma and frequent bronchitis as a child — both of which he had overcome, his family said.


Ghazarian first learned that he had tested positive for the contagious virus on March 13, according to his sister Lauren.

Just one day later, Lauren said Jeff was admitted into the intensive care unit of a hospital once a CT scan confirmed 60-70 percent of his lungs were blocked with pneumonia.

“They’ve decided the best path forward is to intubate,” she wrote on Facebook at the time. “Please pray for him, for God to protect him/keep him safe, for a complete healing so that he comes back home to us soon. Every prayer counts, God hears our prayers!”

How terribly sad, such a young man. IIRC, didn't Jeff Bezos do a publicity photo during a recent visit to Disneyland? It was like he was trying to encourage people to get out and have a good time after the news of the virus had begun making people stay home.
 
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We’re all very concerned, doing the right things, but if this goes on for 18 months as some predict, where will we be? Can we maintain this lifestyle?

JMO, I think we'll have a vaccination before then and likely a treatment.
 
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It's only 2 monkeys, but this Chinese study found that once the rhesus survived #COVID19 they could NOT be reinfected. Would seem to mean survivors are immune and a vaccine might work.
But, again, it's only 2 monkeys.

https://t.co/BqPRkPF0YF Laurie Garrett on Twitter
 
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The incubation period for the virus is about five days before a person feels symptoms. It is believed people are infectious about a day before they feel the effects. The symptoms in most people are similar to a severe case of the flu, beginning with cold-like symptoms, fever, dry cough and maybe diarrhea.
The science of coronavirus - report on transmittal by air, how long it survives on surfaces, safety of painkillers
So much conflicting info out here. Especially when it comes to symptoms. I’ve watched several interviews with patients, they all seem to be describing a dif’ ailment.
 
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Despicable. The greed of people makes me heartsick

There was another article at that link that reminded me of something. It noted a newspaper was printing blank pages for people to use as TP if needed. Newsprint works if you run out and can't find anything. Also recall from my grandparent's out house that catalogues, phone books, etc. also work. Just don't flush.
 
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I see no difference. The financial crisis devastated the entire world too. It's enraging and I can't believe they are still allowed to do it.

Yes. This is actually killing people though. It’s worse.
 
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So Florida finally issued orders closing the beach? Ridiculous. Way too late.
 
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Coronavirus and Car Deals

On a more optimistic note, this may be an excellent time to get a new car. Or in a few months.
 
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