Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #34

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Mar 23, 2020

Mom wants parents to take this seriously.

A 7-month-old in South Carolina has tested positive for COVID-19 coronavirus.
Last Monday his fever reached 104 degrees
He's one of the youngest people in the country to test positive for the virus. His temperature spiked over 100 degrees and it's believed that the child caught the virus from his grandmother, who also tested positive despite not showing any symptoms. The baby's grandmother worked at a daycare center.

(1 minute mark on video)


And he has two young siblings, as well as Mom and Dad who are going to be at risk.
 
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NJ

Coronavirus in NJ: Up to 1,000 inmates to be released from jails

New Jersey Chief Justice Stuart Rabner late Sunday signed an order calling for the temporary release of up to 1,000 inmates serving sentences in county jails, to mitigate the risk of the COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic.

Gov. Phil Murphy, at his daily press briefing on the public health emergency, said he believes New Jersey is the first state in the nation to take such a step.

It calls for the release no later than 6 a.m. Tuesday of inmates who are serving county jail terms as a condition of probation or as a result of municipal court convictions.

The ACLU said in a statement that it could affect up to 1,000 inmates statewide.
I guess I need help understanding this.
Wouldn't it be better to keep them locked up and contained, INSIDE, as we as non-prisoner citizens are being told to do ??
I mean, we were just ordered a "Stay-Home-Order from our Governor.
They want us to stay home, to help contain it, yet they want to release more people out to the public who most, I am sure, have no place to go ??
I am just not understanding this thought process at all.
Heaven help us !!
 
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Michigan Governor Whitmer issued a ‘stay at home order’

The order explains what this means
Whitmer - Executive Order 2020-21 (COVID-19)


Our pharmacy will only fill Rxs during this crisis for one-month supply instead of a 90-day supply for meds related to breathing issues (inhalers, etc ) and some others (my hubby’s diabetic Trulicity)

The grocery store had entirely empty meat coolers, no cereal, in addition to sanitizers/TP/ etc
 
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I guess I need help understanding this.
Wouldn't it be better to keep them locked up and contained, INSIDE, as we as non-prisoner citizens are being told to do ??
I mean, we were just ordered a "Stay-Home-Order from our Governor.
They want us to stay home, to help contain it, yet they want to release more people out to the public who most, I am sure, have no place to go ??
I am just not understanding this thought process at all.
Heaven help us !!
The message I'm getting is that jails/prisons don't have the personnel or facilities to handle ICU patients. And if those incarcerated need it, won't jail personnel need to accompany them to hospital?
If they are no longer responsible for the most vulnerable or low-risk, maybe they will be able to manage the others.
IMO, just a guess
 
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I guess I need help understanding this.
Wouldn't it be better to keep them locked up and contained, INSIDE, as we as non-prisoner citizens are being told to do ??
I mean, we were just ordered a "Stay-Home-Order from our Governor.
They want us to stay home, to help contain it, yet they want to release more people out to the public who most, I am sure, have no place to go ??
I am just not understanding this thought process at all.
Heaven help us !!
I agree. Where is the logic in this decision?
Maybe Im wrong.
Ive always said, “when the sky is blue and someone tells me its red, I dont even know what to say or how to debate it”.
 
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I guess I need help understanding this.
Wouldn't it be better to keep them locked up and contained, INSIDE, as we as non-prisoner citizens are being told to do ??
I mean, we were just ordered a "Stay-Home-Order from our Governor.
They want us to stay home, to help contain it, yet they want to release more people out to the public who most, I am sure, have no place to go ??
I am just not understanding this thought process at all.
Heaven help us !!

This part of the article helped me understand. BBM

Parties to the negotiations in New Jersey "reviewed certifications form healthcare professionals regarding the profound risk posed to people in correctional facilities arising from the spread of COVID-19,'' Rabner's order said. The parties agreed that reducing county jail populations is in the public interest, it said.

"We know and we've seen across the river that jails can be incubators for diseases, so we have to take bold and drastic steps, so, when this pandemic concludes, I need to be able to look my daughters in their eyes to say that we took every step possible to help all the residents of this state, including those who are in county jail sentences,'' Grewal said.
 
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It can be confusing. I wish that non medical experts would defer to medical experts, especially in this situation. I can't see any danger in that communications strategy. Imo

I don't see it as confusing at all. A prescription is required to obtain the medications so many hope will prove to be effective treatments. I think it is very wise for the all leaders to remain as optimistic as possible. They have set the tone for so many communities coming together whether it is to buy groceries for the vulnerable or to sew masks or make hand sanitizers for our healthcare workers and first responders.

JMO
 
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Gov. Kate Brown Issues Order Directing Oregonians To 'Stay Home'
Gov. Kate Brown Issues Order Directing Oregonians To 'Stay Home'

Days after saying she wouldn’t order Oregonians largely to remain at home to slow the spread of the coronavirus, Gov. Kate Brown did just that Monday.

Bowing to increasing pressure from healthcare workers and public officials, the governor issued an executive order directing Oregonians to stay home “to the maximum extent possible,” except for when carrying out essential tasks like getting groceries, refueling their vehicles, or obtaining health care.

“I am issuing a new executive order further requiring social distancing measures because we know this is the most effective way to flatten the curve and slow the spread of this virus,” Brown said in a statement. “I hope everyone in Oregon abides by its core message: stay home unless absolutely necessary.”

Violations of the order can be treated as a class C misdemeanor, punishable by up to 30 days in jail and a $1,250 fine. The order takes effect immediately, though impacted businesses do not need to close until 12:01 a.m. Tuesday, and other changes take effect Wednesday. The order does not have a predetermined end date.
 
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OH I AGREE so completely with you on this.

We must keep people in their houses, their apartments, their condos.

I mean the working poor, the middle class. One or two measly payments of $1200 are not going to tide these people over for the next 3-4 months. There are car payments, food, utilities, car insurance, childrens' care. In the bay area, for example, that won't pay the rent. And teachers are out and not going to get paid until maybe September!
Why aren't your teachers getting paid?
 
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Will newly released prisoners contribute to the decisions made about who gets a life saving ICU bed or ventilator?
I doubt medical professionals could ever imagine having to make triage decisions that involve a beloved senior citizen and a convicted felon. Imo
 
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Not the most comforting topic, but it needs to be addressed:

How will the massive number of deceased impact towns, counties, states and the nation?

We're not China or Iran (of course) but we share with them the same problem now. We only need to look at their experience (crematories running all day/mass Graves) to get a picture of what's to come... Imo

I've thought of the same thing. I've accepted some large population centers may end up in the same boat. Jmo
 
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Sadly, the numbers now suggest the U.S. is poised to take the lead in #coronavirus cases. It’s reasonable to plan for the US to top the list of countries with the most cases in approximately 1 week. This does NOT make social intervention futile. It makes it imperative!

Thomas P. Bossert on Twitter CSO@TrinityCyber; national security analyst@ABC; former Homeland Security & Counterterrorism

"April will be worse than March, May will be worse than April: Breakdown"

Experts@DrJAshtonand@TomBossert break down timeline, social distancing rules and more of what you need to know about COVID-19.

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Coronavirus map: Tracking the spread in the US and around the world
 
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I ventured out today to the post office and stopped at the grocery store since I was already out. The whole process gave me a lot of anxiety. Of course I practiced safe standards while out (6 ft away, used a stylus on the keypad, etc), and when I got home I did all the sanitizing things plus put all my clothes in the laundry and took a shower. My son has asthma and I'm so afraid of bringing something home.

I wouldn't have gone out, but my cousin is in his residency in NY (currently in CCU, moving to ICU in April or sooner) and he has no masks. I had 2 boxes of 2 masks each that I bought back in Feb, so I mailed them to him. It's not much but it's all I could do. Hopefully they will get the PPE they need soon.
 
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I think that this one of the most ridiculous ideas I have heard!

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Edited by me to say this post is about the discussion related to freeing elderly prisoners from federal prisons.

It's a difficult ethical dilemma for society. If they are elderly, they are in a high risk group, in a living situation like a college dorm where the virus will infect everyone, and to keep them there would be a death sentence. Not an easy situation to address.
 
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Gov. Kate Brown Issues Order Directing Oregonians To 'Stay Home'
Gov. Kate Brown Issues Order Directing Oregonians To 'Stay Home'

Days after saying she wouldn’t order Oregonians largely to remain at home to slow the spread of the coronavirus, Gov. Kate Brown did just that Monday.

Bowing to increasing pressure from healthcare workers and public officials, the governor issued an executive order directing Oregonians to stay home “to the maximum extent possible,” except for when carrying out essential tasks like getting groceries, refueling their vehicles, or obtaining health care.

“I am issuing a new executive order further requiring social distancing measures because we know this is the most effective way to flatten the curve and slow the spread of this virus,” Brown said in a statement. “I hope everyone in Oregon abides by its core message: stay home unless absolutely necessary.”

Violations of the order can be treated as a class C misdemeanor, punishable by up to 30 days in jail and a $1,250 fine. The order takes effect immediately, though impacted businesses do not need to close until 12:01 a.m. Tuesday, and other changes take effect Wednesday. The order does not have a predetermined end date.
It's like some of these Govs are trying to reinvent the wheel. Can't they see what is happening all around them?

Haven't they heard that immediate decisive action might save lives and help protect health care workers?
 
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