Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #35

[Henry2326]

NEW: France reports 2,446 new cases of coronavirus and 240 new deaths, raising total to 22,302 cases and 1,100 dead Tracking coronavirus: Map, data and timeline
BNO Newsroom on Twitter

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Just my opinion here, but the more I look at the data, I really do believe we’re dealing with at least two different strains - which is leading to a lot of uncertainty about what to expect. Italy is currently running at over 8% mortality rate. If true and accurate, it would be several million deaths in US if that’s the strain we’re dealing with.

Two strains would confuse all the data - they may have separate R0’s, different ways of transmission, present differently, different incubation periods, etc....

It would be an absolute nightmare for tracking and projection models.

I think they’re trying to untangle a big mess to see just where we do stand.

I’d also love to see any information that specifically states they have identified antibodies. If no antibodies present, then all recovered may still have the virus, but virus goes into remission.
Too many unknowns, and being fought based on too many ASSUMPTIONS!!

I also have to wonder what threshold is being used to determine acceptable collateral damage. Unfortunately, I believe the reality is that a fairly high percentage of deaths would have to be imminent in order for World Governments to willingly tank the world economy.

I truly believe the US would willingly absorb a certain percentage deaths in order to keep our economy going. I have no idea what that percentage would be, but I would think it would have to be pretty high. China would be even more willing to sacrifice human life for the economy.

With these considerations in mind, it’s still my opinion that there’s more to the story than meets the eye.

Thoughts???

I posted earlier about antibody studies being done for you. Those are the most recent as the results of those studies...not done as they are in progress (and to answer the basic question of "are antibodies produced"... yes... they are. IgG and IgM antibodies...again... studies underway to assess )

 

[Ursamajr]

So that leaves 330 million that are still alive. Couldn't those 330 million get back to work?

People are still carrying COVID without being "sick". You can still be alive and carrying it and passing it.

 

[justbeachy]

Be careful with the nebulizer though. Coronavirus apparently was spread in the air at the nursing home in WA partly due to use of nebulizers...before they realized they were dealing with COVID-19.

Definitely wouldn't use the nebulizer without doctor's instructions to do so. Haven't even touched the thing in years. But SHOULD it be necessary per a doctor's order, I already own one. God forbid I ever need it (knocking on every piece of wood I can find). Edited to add: I made sure to get several refills of my son's inhalers so if we are in a situation where a doctor feels a home nebulizer is our only option, then we will be in a "last resort" situation and in seriously dire straights. I won't be flippantly using a nebulizer to battle COVID-19 in my home.

 

[Henry2326]

SOUTH CAROLINA

#BREAKING: Gov. Henry McMaster orders South Carolina schools to remain closed through the end of April.
#COVID-19 #scnews
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[Henry2326]

GEORGIA

Georgia to send absentee ballot request forms to every voter amid coronavirus concerns Georgia to send absentee ballot request forms to every voter amid coronavirus concerns
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[Yesiamapirate]

Detroit-area hospital system ‘almost at capacity,’ Gov. Whitmer says amid coronavirus outbreak

 

[Lilibet]

Mine was given on my upper thigh. Peds told my mom he gave the vaccine there because the scar would fade more.

My smallpox vaccine was on the outside of my knee so a scar wouldn’t show much. I can’t see it now and I don’t recall seeing it when I was young.

 

[MimosaMornings]

Spanish army finds dead, abandoned residents in nursing homes — New York Post

I have no words.

 

[mickey2942]

I have no idea why US is allowing this. It's not like we need more corona cases.

Exactly. I would agree to accept United States citizens, and Legal Permanent Residents. Otherwise, continue your cruise.

I have absolutely no sympathy for cruiselines. The exploitation of low wage workers is outrageous. They scarf up huge profits, evade taxes, and laws.

No bailout for cruise lines.

 

[cass523]

Rutgers researchers are testing a new, much faster COVID-19 test that could revolutionize the way medical personnel test for the coronavirus.

If all goes well, the test could be completed in about 45 minutes at a hospital, instead of being sent to a laboratory that may take five days or more for a result, according to a statement from Rutgers New Jersey Medical School.

New coronavirus test with results in 45 minutes exceeds expectations, Rutgers says

 

[bluedivergirl]

Did it? Can you still see it?

It did fade. Sometimes I can make it out, but usually not. He only vaccinated girls on their thigh. Boys got to have scars.

 

[katydid23]

President Donald Trump said he would “love” to have the nation recovered and back open for business from the coronavirus pandemic by April 12, Easter Sunday.


“It’s absolutely possible,” Trump said, adding “our country wants to go back to work, our people want to go back to work.” He said U.S. citizens will still need to continue safe practices such as social distancing and hand washing.
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He said he would 'LOVE' to have the national recovery by then.

But obviously we have to wait and see how things are going next month. He is not saying he is going to suddenly, with no reason, tell everyone to go back to school and to work.

I think he is trying to give people some optimism and faith, that our entire country is not going to collapse while we huddle in the darkness.

Let people have hope that when Easter comes, things will be looking up. And maybe SOME progress will have been made. Maybe some families will be able to reunite for Easter dinner, if everyone from the family is healthy/recovered?

I am happy to imagine our country, at some point, being in a healthy recovery.

 

[SuziQ]

Seems like a really quick " about face" forward march. What happened to flattening the curve? I am all about the doctors and feel they are spot on with their thoughts.

I also wonder if the numbers, charts, etc are showing it impossible to flatten the curve enough to make a difference. Meaning the length of time it will take to flatten the curve is too long for this economy to survive?

I am so confused. I know I will not be leaving the house any time soon.

Me and my husband will continue to isolate.

I am seriously not seeing enough self isolation or social distancing to affect the curve. People around here are pretty much flaunting the rules whenever possible. I see a ton of large groups of parents and kids hitting up the parks and skate parks. I see no social distancing going on.

Imo, they all might as well be at work and school.

 

[Lilibet]

Definitely wouldn't use the nebulizer without doctor's instructions to do so. Haven't even touched the thing in years. But SHOULD it be necessary per a doctor's order, I already own one. God forbid I ever need it (knocking on every piece of wood I can find). Edited to add: I made sure to get several refills of my son's inhalers so if we are in a situation where a doctor feels a home nebulizer is our only option, then we will be in a "last resort" situation and in seriously dire straights. I won't be flippantly using a nebulizer in my home.

I didn’t think you would be “flippantly” using the nebulizer. But if first responders weren’t aware of the danger, others like you might not be. No offense intended. Just useful information. I certainly hope it’s not necessary for your son to use it.

 

[cass523]

The ACME market in Brigantine has a new addition to the checkout stand: a Plexiglas divider between the cashier and customer at the checkout, as well as at the pharmacy and customer service desks. Acme said it plans to install the glass in all of its 164 stores.

This supermarket chain is installing Plexiglas barriers, social distancing floor markings to combat coronavirus

 

[jjenny]

I didn’t think you would be “flippantly” using the nebulizer. But if first responders weren’t aware of the danger, others like you might not be. No offense intended. Just useful information. I certainly hope it’s not necessary for your son to use it.

I think they spread it around in a nursing home because they were using it on infected individuals. If you are using it in your home and you are not infected you presumably should be perfectly fine.

 

[Herat]

I posted earlier about antibody studies being done for you. Those are the most recent as the results of those studies...not done as they are in progress (and to answer the basic question of "are antibodies produced"... yes... they are. IgG and IgM antibodies...again... studies underway to assess )

Here is some official information about serologic testing that I was able to find from the state of Nevada: ( I have bolded one of the important concepts)


The FDA defines COVID-19 serological diagnostic tests as tests that identify antibodies (e.g., IgM, IgG) to SARS-CoV-2 from clinical specimens. Considering that serology tests are less clinically definitive than molecular tests and are solely used to identify antibodies to the virus, the State of Nevada requires that the following information be included in the test reports from laboratory-developed serologic tests:


➢ This test has not been reviewed by the FDA.

➢ Negative results do not rule out SARS-CoV-2 infection, particularly in those who have been tested prior to seroconversion. Follow-up testing with a molecular diagnostic should be considered to rule out infection in these individuals.

➢ Results from antibody testing should not be used as the sole basis to diagnose or exclude SARS-CoV-2 infection or to inform infection status.

➢ Positive IgM results indicate recent exposure or infection. The source could be from non-SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus strains, such as coronavirus HKU1, NL63, OC43, or 229E.

➢ Positive IgG and negative IgM results generally indicate an infection that has previously occurred. The source could be from non-SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus strains or other circulating coronavirus strains including coronavirus HKU1, NL63, OC43, or 229E.


The State of Nevada requires that the following validation studies be conducted for a SARS-CoV-2 serological
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there is a lot more too it, but it's getting a bit more technical.

 

[Spartygirl]

Yes, Wal-Mart from 6am to 7am.

I ventured out this morning at 6. Five minutes into my trip to Wal-Mart I encounter a mom with 3 kids.
Just as I pass the canned tomatoes, the two year old throws up. Yeap, mom keeps shopping and I hear an employee offer to get her immediately checked out. The mom said, no thanks and kept shopping. This mom is one row behind me, as I rush to grab stuff and leave. The kid or maybe another kid throws up AGAIN. As I'm heading to the checkout, I see what appears to be a manager arguing with the mom.

I wasn't happy. I realize stores can ask customers to allow over 65 to shop special hours but can not refuse others entry.

Am I wrong to be upset with this mother who choose to put others at risk?

BBM- NOPE
I would have been livid and I probably would have been escorted out due to me not being able to keep my mouth shut. JS and MOO

 

[Ursamajr]

It did fade. Sometimes I can make it out, but usually not. He only vaccinated girls on their thigh. Boys got to have scars.

This is so problematic but thats all I will say about that because ARGH!!!