Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #38

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  • #501
I agree, but these types of regulations should be based on the worst possible behavior of returning residents, not those who follow the rules. When I first read the regulation it mentioned that citizens returning on commercial transport would be required to isolate in the city they arrived and the federal government would pay for food and accommodation for 14 days.

We have a place in Gulport Florida (didn't go this year, rented it out) and have kept in contact with people who chose to stay till April 30. They are panicking now and changing their plans. These are people who usually drive at a leisurely pace and take at least 2 nights hotel stays to make their way back home. I worry that these people once across the border will follow their usual routine and stay at friends' homes in Toronto on the way back to Peterborough/Barrie/Sudbury.

ITA. But would their friends even want them dropping by during this crisis? I wouldn't. Snowbirds who live in the U.S. often drive to their winter spots. My parents did it for years and, yep, they'd stop and stay with family in Baton Rouge for a few days on the trip back.

This virus isn't being spread by those of us following the rules, it's being spread by those who won't, because there is a short circuit in their common sense. Cruise ships should have been docked and locked weeks ago. There is yet another making its way to Florida. My own brother is in Mexico and has decided to sit tight because our oldest brother, who works for an airline, told him the last place he wants to be is on an airplane and in a Florida airport. Delta has something like 600 jets parked in storage.

It really is hard to believe precious resources have to be expended to take down basketball hoops and blockade swing sets because people won't listen to the experts.

JMO
 
  • #502
Thank you for this post.
Going to Instacart shopping right quick!!
Must stock up on some essentials. Now.

I hope they get everything they ask for and deserve!
 
  • #503
NJ

A Megan’s Law violator who murdered a 16-year-old girl 45 years ago, two convicted arsonists and a man who directed his 7-year-old daughter to perform oral sex on him are among Monmouth County Jail inmates who could go free under a court order designed to minimize COVID-19 outbreaks at county lockups.

Monmouth County Prosecutor Christopher J. Gramiccioni is fighting to keep those and six other jail inmates behind bars, after state Supreme Court Justice Stuart Rabner on Sunday signed an order calling for the release of certain county jail inmates.

Coronavirus NJ: Arsonists, pedophile and murderer-turned-Megan’s Law violator could go free
 
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Today is the last day in Montana, before being "At Home", I went and saw my daughter. The level of emotion now, is really different. An absolute intensity, that was never there before.

There are lines at the bank. Right now, 15 cars in the drive up. Lots of police around, more than usual, and several military trucks on the highway.

I saw some nurses at a drive up test station, asked if they wanted coffee or something, it is chilly here. They are suited up in hazmat gear, and said they couldn't eat or drink. Next time I will drop off some gift cards for them.

The day isn't over, gotta go see some other people. Before I get to "Stay at Home" for 2 weeks.
Please do not take my words too hard, but you do not have to go around and visit many people just because from now on you are requested to stay at home. The whole visits are a bit against the purpose as any of you may already be infected and now by going around the transmission is being further supported. It is not isolation, you can call them all every day etc etc.
 
  • #507
I’ve said this from the beginning, who in the heck wants to risk their life over whatever that stuff is that is served on a bun? Not I!

I'm not sure why people think fast food outlets are exempt from having infections.
 
  • #508
WALMART

"It's like having Black Friday day after day after day," says Walmart Exec. VP Dan Bartlett on the traffic in stores amid the coronavirus pandemic.
"We've seen an enormous amount of pressure on the system... We've reached a new normal with regards to the supply chain," he adds. CNN on Twitter

CNN on Twitter
 
  • #509
Trump orders General Motors to make ventilators under Defense Production Act
President Donald Trump has ordered General Motors to make ventilators under the Defense Production Act hours after criticizing the company for not acting quickly enough to produce the supplies amid the coronavirus pandemic.
From your link: Earlier Friday, The New York Times reported that GM and Ventec Life Systems, with which it is partnering to build such supplies, wanted more than $1 billion, including hundreds of millions upfront to GM to retool a car parts plant in Kokomo, Indiana, to make the ventilators.
 
  • #510
I had a couple hours in the saddle. I urge all of you to get outside for a walk, or your preference, if you can. The sunshine & fresh air do amazing good things for anxiety, I think. I wish I could keep on riding and just leave. But where would/could I go?
 
  • #511
Thank you for letting me know @margarita25 I saw Lisa Ling this morning talking about this, I clicked on a few of her links and found the article. After seeing you write Non-Political on your post, I was not sure.

Thank you Cass for being here and for all your informative posts.

Dr. LW is a HUGE part of all this and the whole of China was devastated and outraged when he died. China was irate he was initially silenced. He has now been officially exonerated.
 
  • #512
So grateful for the man. It affects me personally- my kids and grandkids live in NY. And kids all work in NYC. So glad he’s in charge there. Eases my worried mind. JMO

I feel the same way... My daughter and fiance live there. I talk to her every day, but we talk about how long it will be that we can even see each other. She is in Queens, the borrow with the hospital crises... and she has to assure me every day that no, she is not near that hospital, but still has to go up and down an elevator, order food that can only be delivered every two weeks, has to absorb a 20% pay cut already--and she is an architect designing hospital units! ( She clearly knows she is fortunate to have a job, and work from home but...its hard enough making ends meet in NYC). I don't ever expect to have a normal again, but I sure hope my kids can. They will refer to it as my parents did to WW2 and the Great Depression.
 
  • #513
Well, after all the hoopla about the GM deal blowing up, I did a little research.

The GM contract was for 80,000 vents at a cost of 1 billion dollars, about 12,500. each. A cost I considered very high but were between a rock and a hard place.

So I look up Ventec Life Systems. I hope to God, they do pull this contact!!! Any and all medical professionals so will be outraged. Who in the White House supported this decision, certainly NOT the medical team.

These are HOME ventilators with a basic function!!!
It takes weeks to ween from a hospital vent (with more functions), stabilize the patient, make dozens of adjustment before a HOME vent can be used.

Home ventilators are designed for extremely stable patients and used as maintain to breath not to use in a critical situation. They can not function to meet needs in a critical care setting.

Well, I can believe , the WH pulled another one over on us. I am ticked to the max and certainly don't trust ANYONE on the task force. Including Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx and the Surgeons General. They KNOW THIS!!! This was a quick rich scheme on GM part.

The vents we were going to pay 12,500. actual cost wholesale 1500.00 yes fifteen hundred !!!

I bet I could dig up a few dozen home vents in NC and VA from home vent patients that have passed on. Families never get rid of that stuff.

I am just flabbergasted. I hope they stop this before they purchase and start delivering. A billion dollars wasted.

Ventec Life Systems


Multi-Function Ventilator
Integrated therapies make care quick and easy
VOCSN defines integrated respiratory care from the hospital to home. VOCSN is controlled with an intuitive touchscreen operating system to deliver treatments in seconds instead of minutes.

Moo... Please any nurses or respiratory therapist please weigh in.
 
  • #514
This is nerve racking -
Michigan ER nurse on COVID-19: 'This is truly scary'

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She said she had to help out the Southfield hospital, and that they had to put 10 patients on ventilators, and her patient right before she left took the last ventilator in the hospital.

"We're going to start making life-or-death decisions in regards to people's care," she said.


Macdonald also said that they are out of medication, including Tylenol, and they can't keep people ventilated.

"This is truly scary and nobody is taking it seriously," she said. "
 
  • #515
Man with cancer commits suicide at NYC hospital after getting coronavirus

A man with cancer hanged himself in a Manhattan hospital after testing positive for the coronavirus, police sources said Friday.

The 66-year-old man, who was suffering from throat cancer, was found dead inside his hospital room in the coronavirus isolation ward at NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital on the Upper East Side at 8:40 p.m. Thursday.

He had been admitted to the hospital the day before with pneumonia and later tested positive for COVID-19.
Oh my. This is so sad. And I’m sure he was afraid of dying alone along with even more suffering. I hope there are a lot of people praying for our neighbors here and around the world.
 
  • #516
How close do you all live to the suburbs? The reason I ask is that we live on a small acreage and those in our 'hood with horses are going to do a little parade for us at 6 PM tonight so families can come out to their front porches and wave. Kids of all ages love horses. We'll be in our porch rockers with a cocktail.

JMO
That sounds like a beautiful community event. You will all remember it for as long as you live.
 
  • #517
From your link: Earlier Friday, The New York Times reported that GM and Ventec Life Systems, with which it is partnering to build such supplies, wanted more than $1 billion, including hundreds of millions upfront to GM to retool a car parts plant in Kokomo, Indiana, to make the ventilators.
I don't see anything in that article that Trump has done to lower the price GM was asking. Also, GM and their partner had already declared that they were building the units, when they could be expected to be shipped, all before Trump issued the DPA to order them to do something they already were doing.
 
  • #518
This virus isn't being spread by those of us following the rules, it's being spread by those who won't, because there is a short circuit in their common sense.
@MyBelle as I was putting my horse in his paddock, my neighbor drove up, he is elderly with a sickly wife. He had been to WMT to get her RX. He counted 63 kids, and he was NOT on the grocery side. 63? WTH?
He mentioned his concern to the pharm’ tech & she told him “we are trying to figure things out.” Since I’ve been out, I need to catch up on local news, but he told me Lexington mayor had tennis courts locked & basketball goals removed from city parks. Evidently she caught large groups of kids & adults gathered. What is wrong with our world? Moo
As soon as I get organized, I’m emailing WMT Corp’. I’ll get the precise time from my neighbor’s receipt and WMT can review their video tape. Moo
 
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Please do not take my words too hard, but you do not have to go around and visit many people just because from now on you are requested to stay at home. The whole visits are a bit against the purpose as any of you may already be infected and now by going around the transmission is being further supported. It is not isolation, you can call them all every day etc etc.

I did have to go 250 miles away to see my daughter. I had planned to go last weekend, or this weekend.

Her small town is almost out of everything. She is a college student, and had literally nothing in her apartment. Her job is considered "essential", at the hardware store, so, she can't come home.

My car was packed with everything she and her friends needed. For some reason, in this town, they were even out of supplies for "girls". Go figure it. Mama had a full car with everything. They are set for a month or longer.
 
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