Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #38

[NuttMegg]

Trump has enacted it because of GM's attempt at price-gouging for ventilators and dragging out the contract process.

'GM was wasting time': Trump invokes DPA to force GM to make ventilators
President Donald Trump today invoked the Defense Production Act, directing General Motors to produce ventilators needed for the coronavirus outbreak, hours after lashing out at the automaker on Twitter, and following weeks of increasingly loud pleas from governors and mayors to put the powerful statute into use.


“Today, I signed a Presidential Memorandum directing the Secretary of Health and Human Services to use any and all authority available under the Defense Production Act to require General Motors to accept, perform, and prioritize Federal contracts for ventilators,” Trump said in a statement from the White House. “Our negotiations with GM regarding its ability to supply ventilators have been productive, but our fight against the virus is too urgent to allow the give-and-take of the contracting process to continue to run its normal course. GM was wasting time. Today’s action will help ensure the quick production of ventilators that will save American lives.”

I don't see anything in your link about setting a lower price than they had already been asking. Nothing about price-gouging or achieving a lower price. It just says accept, perform and prioritize contracts. Where is the information about price gouging?

 

[margarita25]

Seems that women are stocking up on the feminine hygiene products.

Stockpiling Sanitary Products Could Send Women Into Period Poverty


Always (brand) - Wikipedia

Procter and Gamble plant, Belleville, Ontario.

Remember when I was doing small shopping runs for several weeks early on and there was that lady I suspected too might have been “CV shopping” bc her cart was loaded with maxi pads and cans of tuna? Remember I said “either she has fibroids and heavy flow, there’s a big sale on pads, or she too might be CV shopping” lol...

ETA TMI:

If the pipes were still flowing over here that would’ve been first on my list, believe me ahahahahahahaha

 

[Rose in SC]

South Carolina governor's presser earlier. Still no state-wide stay-at-home ordinance. Still not testing much but cases are up to 539 with 13 deaths. If you look at the SC DHEC site, there is absolutely no flattening of the curve whatsoever. Optimistically expecting 'only' 8,053 cases by the end of April.

I did see elsewhere that North Carolina now has a shelter in place order for all of NC effective Monday at 5, and says it will be enforced by law.

Testing & SC Data (COVID-19) | SCDHEC

 

[margarita25]

why have all cruise ships not been grounded??

Yeah wth I’m amazed this is still going on.

 

[branmuffin]

poor man
so sad

Is it going to get as dire as it did during Katrina where abandoned hospitals euthanized patients? Remember this?

The Moral Dilemmas of Doctors During Disaster

 

[Tillicum]

Trump invokes Defense Production Act to force GM to make ventilators after stalled talks

Trump's move appears aimed at price and volume negotiations with the government. But it’s Ventec, not GM, that is talking with the government, said Chris Brooks, Ventec’s chief strategy officer.

Ventec ventilators, which are portable and can handle intensive care patients, cost about $18,000 each, Brooks said. That’s much cheaper than the more sophisticated ventilators used by hospitals that can cost up to $50,000, he said.

 

[MyBelle]

I don't see anything in your link about setting a lower price than they had already been asking. Nothing about price-gouging or achieving a lower price. It just says accept, perform and prioritize contracts. Where is the information about price gouging?

The White House said it days ago:

President Donald J. Trump Will Not Tolerate the Price Gouging and Hoarding of Critical Supplies Needed to Combat the Coronavirus | The White House

 

[Trudie]

https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=andy beshear governor&epa=SEARCH_BOX

Gov’ Beshear just said: if your kid needs shoes, order online & pickup curbside.
Store management must be complaining about the number of non adults in retail stores. Moo

If I carried a rattlesnake into WMT, I’d be arrested, yet kids are potentially as deadly, moo.

Will WMT eventually close because they have no one left to work?

 

[NuttMegg]

The White House said it days ago:

President Donald J. Trump Will Not Tolerate the Price Gouging and Hoarding of Critical Supplies Needed to Combat the Coronavirus | The White House

But no price gouging with respect to GM. All I'm curious about is if Trump is invoking the DPA to buy the product at a lower price, no articles mention that yet.

 

[Trudie]

Anyone think community swimming pools won’t open this summer? I’ve never been to one but when passing by, they always look b u s y.
I think we are in for a long, hot summer.

 

[margarita25]

Hi, so once again it’s Friday happy hour. @otto is bringing the vodka and @cody22 has the coffee and burritos.

I’d like to update you guys on how I’m doing as I approach “30 days in the hole”.

(FTR we used to talk about “30 days in the hole...who knew that was soon to become reality...)

Anyway, yeah, here’s how I’m doing btw

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On a serious note my body and muscles are aching from the tension, stress, and lack of regularly scheduled activity. I’m doing a complete makeover of my living room right now to become my gym.

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For old times sake, this is what I used to say everyone needed to do:

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[astheworldfallsdown]

Coronavirus: Woman jailed for claiming she had COVID-19 and coughing in policeman's face

A woman has been been jailed after claiming she had the coronavirus and coughing in a policeman's face.

Joanne Turner, 35, became abusive when officers spoke to her after she had kicked and damaged a car outside Norwich train station at around 11pm on Wednesday.


Turner, from Norwich, admitted assaulting an emergency worker at Norwich Magistrates' Court on Thursday.

She also admitted being drunk and disorderly in a public place and criminal damage.

Norfolk Police said she was jailed for 12 weeks.

 

[Tillicum]

Watching and waiting for PC to start. Anyone counting how many people touched the door to the left going in and out?

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

Coronavirus: 'Third of UK harvest may go to waste' due to COVID-19 travel ban

Coronavirus: 'Third of UK harvest may go to waste' due to COVID-19 travel ban
Fruit and vegetable crops need harvesting in weeks but travel restrictions mean there is likely to be a vast labour shortage.

A third of this summer's food harvest could go to waste on British farms because of a chronic shortage of migrant labour caused by the coronavirus outbreak, charities and farmers are warning.

UK farms and food producers rely on a migrant workforce of 60,000 to 70,000 seasonal labourers mainly drawn from eastern European countries including Romania, Bulgaria and Poland.


Within weeks, fruit and vegetable crops will need harvesting but travel restrictions across Europe and the UK, imposed to slow the spread of COVID-19, mean it may prove impossible to recruit overseas staff.

 

[Recidivist]

Kids are not the only ones who are potentially carrying/ spreading the virus. What about the adults? Are they somehow exempt from spreading the disease? Could the able bodied adults possibly stay home, and order their loaf of bread online, instead of going to the store?

Queensryche: "Spreading the disease"

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[Trudie]

Hopefully Covid will be under control before Hurricane season gets here. If not, omg......

South Carolina governor's presser earlier. Still no state-wide stay-at-home ordinance. Still not testing much but cases are up to 539 with 13 deaths. If you look at the SC DHEC site, there is absolutely no flattening of the curve whatsoever. Optimistically expecting 'only' 8,053 cases by the end of April.

I did see elsewhere that North Carolina now has a shelter in place order for all of NC effective Monday at 5, and says it will be enforced by law.

Testing & SC Data (COVID-19) | SCDHEC

 

[Chelly]

Well, I am about to take off on another Virus Survival Adventure in order to get new tires on Mrs.22's Ford BIG white serial killer van..........I hope to return safely..... Yall hang in there today.....moo

Ventured out today during a full high-desert dust storm. Little visibility, roads nearly deserted. I felt like I was in an early Walking Dead episode foraging for supplies.

 

[LadyL]

Is it going to get as dire as it did during Katrina where abandoned hospitals euthanized patients? Remember this?

The Moral Dilemmas of Doctors During Disaster

I wasn't aware of that
disturbing
my Dad is currently considered high risk
the doctor already asked my mom if it came to it, if she wanted to use a ventilator or DNR
then she asked for all the kids' opinions (there's 7 of us plus partners plus grandchildren)
it's a terrible decision to have to make

 

[Lilibet]

Kids are not the only ones who are potentially carrying/ spreading the virus. What about the adults? Are they somehow exempt from spreading the disease? Could the able bodied adults possibly stay home, and order their loaf of bread online, instead of going to the store?

Queensryche: "Spreading the disease"

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Sure adults can spread the disease. But kids are more likely to put their fingers in their mouths and touch stuff or not cover a cough. It would be nice if everyone could/would stay home. In the southeast Asian country of Timor Leste where a friend of mine lives, they have just gone on lockdown and only one person from a family is allowed to go to the store. There are more children than adults there, but probably plenty of adults to watch the kids while one goes out. We are more socially isolated here, so finding childcare is a problem for some, I imagine. But I expect some are continuing their Walmart-as-recreation trips...and that’s what people are complaining about.
JMO

 

[Chelly]

Makes sense. He would not survive the virus, and death by virus would be slow and painful. Better to give people the option of euthanasia when there is no hope for recovery.

Agree. I am 75 and healthy. Have a do not resuscitate order in my health care directive. When I see my doctor in a few weeks, will make sure.....no ventilator therapy.