Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #38

[gngr~snap]

We had several pediatric patients on vents at home.
The ones who were 100% dependent on them, our doctors did home visits. It was easier on everyone involved that way and we didn't want the kids exposed to anything in the office.
Other had tracheotomy tubes for various reasons. The parents always has suction equipment for them,l when they came into the office, but most of those kids only used the vents during sleep and if they did get sick with a pneumonia or flu they often needed extra ventilation assistance because they would tire out and their oxygen saturation would drop.
Typically these kids had feeding tubes that ran at night for extra nutrition as well.
A few of our nurses worked side jobs with the ventilator dependent kids. Their care was 24/7 in 2 or 3 shifts.
I imagine that they had the real deal, because their home nurses had extra certifications.
The kids that used them for assistance when sleeping definitely had a different type. Their parents were able to decide when and how often the needed it.
Moo

 

[margarita25]

So this is a serious tip from “30 days in the hole” over here.

Like I said a week ago, just because...it doesn’t mean we can’t still smile and dance.

Fire it up and dance. I demand.

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[nhmemorymaker]

Non political post:

I would like to please take this opportunity to state that I am very, very disappointed and angry that the US has now reached this mile marker of leading the world in the highest number of Covid-19 cases.

While there are a lot of things that are/were out of our control, there were a lot of things that were in our control. We had a lot of time to help push this virus back and minimize its spread, but judging from these latest numbers, it is very clear to me that there was severe failure on many levels and I can say this since I have monitored everything that has gone down since the beginning, even noting them as they were happening...Mardi Gras, Cruise Ships, just to name a minute fraction of missteps.

Unfortunately due to a variety of factors which are clearly documented in the earlier threads, we are here today. It is disgraceful and shameful we have now jumped to these case numbers because of things that we DID have the power to control.

Again, it is because of everything I have learned from Dr. Mike that I will focus my efforts going forward and not direct blame or cry over spilled milk, but I think I have the right to respectfully express my dissatisfaction and academic interpretation of what has happened to date.

And as I sadly predicted, some people dropped the ball for others, and many others will now pay for this with their lives and severe illness.

We did NOT need to be at this point. Look at all the other nations who did such a good job of containment and mitigation, comprehensive governmental approaches, everything that WHO has talked about since day 1. Dr. Tedros gave us a gift, telling us that we had a “Window of Opportunity”, and unfortunately imo many people in the United States squandered that opportunity. We had so much reference from which to learn and take note. People closed their eyes. We had the gift of time. It too was squandered IMO.

Moving forward, many people did and are taking this seriously now. People on the front lines and in so many capacities are working so hard, and we salute you and thank you.

God Bless our front lines, our medical workers, and everyone who is doing their part.

All i can think about today is all these medical professionals who are at war for us. They will undoubtedly suffer from PTSD for a long time. Our country will suffer from the way we have handled this for generations. <modsnip: Political coments are not allowed>

 

[Trudie]

Sure adults can spread the disease. But kids are more likely to put their fingers in their mouths and touch stuff or not cover a cough. It would be nice if everyone could/would stay home. In the southeast Asian country of Timor Leste where a friend of mine lives, they have just gone on lockdown and only one person from a family is allowed to go to the store. There are more children than adults there, but probably plenty of adults to watch the kids while one goes out. We are more socially isolated here, so finding childcare is a problem for some, I imagine. But I expect some are continuing their Walmart-as-recreation trips...and that’s what people are complaining about.
JMO

Well said. In my area, schools were closed for one reason, to prevent asymptomatic children from exposing the population to Covid. Now, many are exposing front line workers. Moo

 

[JerseyGirl]

Awe, Louisiana. Florida thinks it's us, but no, it's them:

Florida governor announces mandatory 14-day self-quarantine for anyone traveling from Louisiana

The move comes as an addition to an executive order already in place requiring people coming into the Sunshine State from New York or New Jersey to self-isolate for two weeks.

 

[Trudie]

Is it possible for your dad to stay in? Best wishes

I wasn't aware of that
disturbing
my Dad is currently considered high risk
the doctor already asked my mom if it came to it, if she wanted to use a ventilator or DNR
then she asked for all the kids' opinions (there's 7 of us plus partners plus grandchildren)
it's a terrible decision to have to make

 

[Ray_of_hope]

Non political post:

I would like to please take this opportunity to state that I am very, very disappointed and angry that the US has now reached this mile marker of leading the world in the highest number of Covid-19 cases.

While there are a lot of things that are/were out of our control, there were a lot of things that were in our control. We had a lot of time to help push this virus back and minimize its spread, but judging from these latest numbers, it is very clear to me that there was severe failure on many levels and I can say this since I have monitored everything that has gone down since the beginning, even noting them as they were happening...Mardi Gras, Cruise Ships, just to name a minute fraction of missteps.

Unfortunately due to a variety of factors which are clearly documented in the earlier threads, we are here today. It is disgraceful and shameful we have now jumped to these case numbers because of things that we DID have the power to control.

Again, it is because of everything I have learned from Dr. Mike that I will focus my efforts going forward and not direct blame or cry over spilled milk, but I think I have the right to respectfully express my dissatisfaction and academic interpretation of what has happened to date.

And as I sadly predicted, some people dropped the ball for others, and many others will now pay for this with their lives and severe illness.

We did NOT need to be at this point. Look at all the other nations who did such a good job of containment and mitigation, comprehensive governmental approaches, everything that WHO has talked about since day 1. Dr. Tedros gave us a gift, telling us that we had a “Window of Opportunity”, and unfortunately imo many people in the United States squandered that opportunity. We had so much reference from which to learn and take note. People closed their eyes. We had the gift of time. It too was squandered IMO.

Moving forward, many people did and are taking this seriously now. People on the front lines and in so many capacities are working so hard, and we salute you and thank you.

God Bless our front lines, our medical workers, and everyone who is doing their part.

What a powerful post. I agree with everything you've written @margarita25 Thank you for expressing so eloquently what a lot of us feel.

 

[MyBelle]

But no price gouging with respect to GM. All I'm curious about is if Trump is invoking the DPA to buy the product at a lower price, no articles mention that yet.

View the press hearing. He said he is invoking it because the govt. was negotiating with multiple companies and GM was dragging its feet. He said it got to be a debate about costs as well as other issues. Peter Navarro is now in charge of the DPA.

JMO

 

[nhmemorymaker]

The Timeline of a Viral Ticking Time Bomb

The story of the coronavirus pandemic is still being written. But at this early date, we can see all kinds of moments where different decisions could have lessened the severity of the outbreak we are currently enduring.

You have probably heard variations of: “Chinese authorities denied that the virus could be transferred from human to human until it was too late.”

What you have probably not heard is how emphatically, loudly, and repeatedly the Chinese government insisted human transmission was impossible, long after doctors in Wuhan had concluded human transmission was ongoing — and how the World Health Organization assented to that conclusion, despite the suspicions of other outside health experts.

Some point in late 2019: The coronavirus jumps from some animal species to a human being. The best guess at this point is that it happened at a Chinese “wet market.”

We can only wonder whether accurate and timely information from China would have altered the way the U.S. government, the American people, and the world prepared for the oncoming danger of infection.

December 6: According to a study in The Lancet, the symptom onset date of the first patient identified was “Dec 1, 2019 . . . 5 days after illness onset, his wife, a 53-year-old woman who had no known history of exposure to the market, also presented with pneumonia and was hospitalized in the isolation ward.” In other words, as early as the second week of December, Wuhan doctors were finding cases that indicated the virus was spreading from one human to another.

December 21: Wuhan doctors begin to notice a “cluster of pneumonia cases with an unknown cause.”

December 25: Chinese medical staff in two hospitals in Wuhan are suspected of contracting viral pneumonia and are quarantined. This is additional strong evidence of human-to-human transmission.

Sometime in “Late December”: Wuhan hospitals notice “an exponential increase” in the number of cases that cannot be linked back to the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market, according to the New England Journal of Medicine.

December 30: Dr. Li Wenliang sent a message to a group of other doctors warning them about a possible outbreak of an illness that resembled severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), urging them to take protective measures against infection.

Three weeks after doctors first started noticing the cases, China contacts the World Health Organization. (continues in link)

China's Coronavirus Coverup -- Devastating Lies | National Review

Is this poitical?

<modsnip>
Trust me, as all countries get through all of this...studies, international trials, and lawsuits will explode. At the end of the day, the best we can hope for is that all countries listen to "the Bill Gates of the World", and more specifically to Bill Gates. He knew, he warned, and he told us what to do.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Today is the last day in Montana, before being "At Home", I went and saw my daughter. The level of emotion now, is really different. An absolute intensity, that was never there before.

There are lines at the bank. Right now, 15 cars in the drive up. Lots of police around, more than usual, and several military trucks on the highway.

I saw some nurses at a drive up test station, asked if they wanted coffee or something, it is chilly here. They are suited up in hazmat gear, and said they couldn't eat or drink. Next time I will drop off some gift cards for them.

The day isn't over, gotta go see some other people. Before I get to "Stay at Home" for 2 weeks.

Just curious........ I haven't heard "lines at banks" too much so far.. Is this to get some cash in the pockets, or is this that "Western distrust of Government" thing?? Ignorant East coaster asking...

 

[Tillicum]

Just curious........ I haven't heard "lines at banks" too much so far.. Is this to get some cash in the pockets, or is this that "Western distrust of Government" thing?? Ignorant East coaster asking...

My son is a bank manager in Ohio and they've cut hours and it's still really slow here.

 

[Trudie]

I google Bill daily. He was also on Anderson Coopers Town Hall last night, did you see? And this is good:
Bill Gates: Entire country needs to shut down for 6-10 weeks to effectively fight coronavirus

<modsnip>
Trust me, as all countries get through all of this...studies, international trials, and lawsuits will explode. At the end of the day, the best we can hope for is that all countries listen to "the Bill Gates of the World", and more specifically to Bill Gates. He knew, he warned, and he told us what to do.

 

[MimosaMornings]

I wasn't aware of that
disturbing
my Dad is currently considered high risk
the doctor already asked my mom if it came to it, if she wanted to use a ventilator or DNR
then she asked for all the kids' opinions (there's 7 of us plus partners plus grandchildren)
it's a terrible decision to have to make

I’m so sorry @LadyL
Things are so sad and depressing right now.
We had to make that decision recently and the nurse said to post it above the bed which we didn’t do. It’s on an exterior door so he doesn’t see it everyday.

 

[Ray_of_hope]

Where I live, the banks are only attending to customers via the drive through window.

 

[branmuffin]

I wonder how many 9/11 first responders with lung issues end up in hospital.

 

[margarita25]

My son is a bank manager in Ohio and they've cut hours and it's still really slow here.

Hey how are you feeling?

 

[Trudie]

Hard to believe rural parks are closing due to “clustering”.
Red River Gorge temporarily shuts down to public access amid COVID-19 pandemic
STANTON, Ky. —

The Red River Gorge in Stanton, Kentucky, has temporarily shut down to public access amid the COVID-19 pandemic.

The shutdown includes all roads and trails on national forest lands. It is unknown when the Gorge will reopen at this time.

 

[margarita25]

I wonder how many 9/11 first responders with lung issues end up in hospital.

Wow......

For real...never thought of that...wow...

 

[cody22]

Kids are not the only ones who are potentially carrying/ spreading the virus. What about the adults? Are they somehow exempt from spreading the disease? Could the able bodied adults possibly stay home, and order their loaf of bread online, instead of going to the store?

Queensryche: "Spreading the disease"

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BINGO !................ If you leave the house you take your chances, no matter your age, and no one knows another's situation, and no one is special, and gets to set their rules for a store, or anything, or anyone else....moo

 

[Ray_of_hope]

"JACKSONVILLE, Fla. – On Friday morning, the Florida Department of Health said 2,900 residents or visitors to the state have now tested positive for the new coronavirus, another 30% increase over the DOH’s data from the same same time Thursday. The state also reported another seven deaths overnight."

Florida’s number of coronavirus cases jumps another 30% in 24 hours