Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #38

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But what about all of the recent patients who claim it saved their lives? I have seen a dozen interviews with people, who seem credible.

I tend to believe them when they say it helped them survive. Why would they lie?
And it makes no sense to NOT provide the drug to those who are very ill. It may not help them but it also is not going to make them worse.

JMO
 
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No one is letting them into port. And, I believe, nearly all of the passengers embarked after WHO declared a pandemic. So. There they are.

They can't get anywhere near ground! :)

California took in a couple early on (not a good situation - they ended up at Travis AFB, where many had CV and at least 2 died and apparently some healthcare worker in the area got it from them - etc.) The cases in my own county were likely spread by 2 cruise ship passengers who tested positive and were sent to a military base here.

I keep thinking about the one ship that has the 45 CV+ passengers and no one will let it near a port. What's to become of them? Will the crew mutiny??

I don't understand why they can't return to the port of entry.
 
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Just obtained a bottle of Everclear alcohol. You can use it to make a spray sanitizer. Not sure it I will spray surfaces or drink it.
Careful of your mixture. You need to be 60% or higher. Many people are doing the 1/3 aloe gel and 2/3 isopropyl alcohol but that's the formula when using 99.9% isopropyl alcohol. The aloe gel has to be adjusted down when mixed with lower concentrations of alcohol.
 
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Sometimes it's coincidental and not cause and effect. Perhaps the people who were prescribed it would have recovered anyway. Also they may have ordered it when people were turning the corner into recovery.
They definitely need more studies.

BBM. That is impossible to know and is the reason it was prescribed in the first place.

JMO
 
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But what about all of the recent patients who claim it saved their lives? I have seen a dozen interviews with people, who seem credible.

I tend to believe them when they say it helped them survive. Why would they lie?

They aren't lying - they believe that's what helped them. But they need to know a few other things before stating their situation as fact. Many many people are getting better with no Rx drugs at all. Many are remaining at home, unstudied, undoctored - and getting well.

So...would each of these people (who took the drug) have gotten better on their own? How would they know this? They cannot run an experiment and we have no control groups (nor would it be humane to have control groups right now).
 
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There is nothing that makes sense about hanging yourself in a hospital room.

Dying from pneumonia is drowning on your own fluids. You’re gasping for breath and unable to breathe as your organs shut down. It’s probably one of the most painful and horrific ways to die.
 
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And it makes no sense to NOT provide the drug to those who are very ill. It may not help them but it also is not going to make them worse.

JMO
It has some pretty nasty side effects from what I've read and patients have told me.
 
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Trump now says he may decide not to invoke the Defense Production Act for General Motors

President Trump said Friday that he may not invoke the Defense Production Act after saying earlier today that he had activated it to order General Motors to make ventilators.

Trump said during a White House coronavirus press briefing that he believed a deal had been reached between GM and the federal government to produce the ventilators, but the deal had fallen through.

He says he decided to use the powers in the DPA to order GM to produce the needed medical equipment saying, “This invocation of the DPA should demonstrate clearly to all that we'll not hesitate to use the full authority of the federal government to combat this crisis.”

“We thought that we had a deal with as an example General Motors and I guess they thought otherwise. They didn't agree, and now they do. They do agree and I think we might be able to pull it. We let them know the way we felt. They can't be doing that," Trump said.

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It is still not a real "strategic plan" it is just revenge. When are we going to get experts to create a real Plan.

You are right. I should have never posted it because at the press conference he changed his tune.
 
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Scary news, my hubs came home and his right hand man at the office just tested positive for CV. They've shut down the facility and hubs has been ordered to self quarantine for 14 days. Guess I'm on quarantine too. :eek:

Trying to get him tested is an absolute nightmare. :(
 
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Scary news, my hubs came home and his right hand man at the office just tested positive for CV. They've shut down the facility and hubs has been ordered to self quarantine for 14 days. Guess I'm on quarantine too. :eek:

Trying to get him tested is an absolute nightmare. :(
I am sad to hear this, girlhasnoname....... Prayers are being sent for you and yours.......We care.......moo
 
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LOL margarita ... trust me, Canuckians are certainly not heading south to your great country right now. If anything, I think we will all move north to camp on the shores of the Beaufort Sea, LOL.

Rsbm

Hey @sillybilly , I’ve got some Oceanfront Property in Arizona :D Sure you don’t want to come to our great country??? I am still ROTF!!!

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Good Evening all. My state now has 587 cases and 4 deaths. Two weeks ago we have 0.
Two different elementary schools nearby both have a teacher that has the virus. A daycare has a teacher that has the virus, 13 people on an Army base have the virus and a person at a local Credit Union has the virus. This virus is spreading quickly as you know. I went to Walmart late this afternoon and it was swamped and ransacked. The crowd was like Christmas Time crowds. When I was leaving, a young lady worker at Walmart said to me 'Stay Safe. This is the real thing'.

School year will be finished at home.

I am really tired today and feel like hibernating.

It is amazing how much our lives have changed in a few weeks. We have gone from freedom to lockdown and it is scary.
 
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Hey @sillybilly , I’ve got some Oceanfront Property in Arizona :D Sure you don’t want to come to our great country??? I am still ROTF!!!

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Don't you just love my boyfriend???
 
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Hey @sillybilly , I’ve got some Oceanfront Property in Arizona :D Sure you don’t want to come to our great country??? I am still ROTF!!!

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A bit dry and hot in AZ for me (cough). Thank you anyway but Beaufort Sea is calling. Am taking my birch bark canoe, tent and hammock and ...

YIGMMFRVAVHIXCC6JHLERBQG6M


Hmm, on second thought. I don't see anywhere to hang my hammock ;)
 
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But what about all of the recent patients who claim it saved their lives? I have seen a dozen interviews with people, who seem credible.

I tend to believe them when they say it helped them survive. Why would they lie?
My dear.......watch what they do, not what they say....
 
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