Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #42

[otto]

Are you doing more laundry now than a month ago? I know I am. I wash my towels and sheets everyday now. If I go out like I did earlier today, I wash those clothes. I never used to use hot water and now everything is washed in hot water and I hope that my jeans don't shrink too much. For the past 2 1/2 weeks of isolation, I have eaten non stop - all the good stuff - chips, cheez-its, ice cream, Edwards Chocolate cream pie, pop tarts - the all American foods.

I love my laundry room so doing laundry does not bother me. It is also my office for when I get phone calls from work.

Next shortage is laundry detergent?

 

[otto]

We just listed a home, which is in probate. We have had about 4 showings in the last 2 weeks. I'm concerned about it too.

We have an estate property as well and for 2-3 weeks I've been saying "take the money and run" but estates take time.

 

[KALI]

Yep, I bet Trump also called DeSantis yesterday and told him to lock down Florida. Hence the governor's announcement to do so today. Jmo

A bit of an update:

Coronavirus: Fla. governor taking residents from Holland America ships

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said at a press conference Wednesday his state was willing to accept Floridians on board Holland America cruise ships seeking to disembark in Florida after more than 190 guests and crew reported flu-like symptoms, including eight passengers who tested positive for COVID-19.

Florida officials, DeSantis said, are "working on a solution" to disembark other passengers, including foreign nationals, in a way that does not drain resources in South Florida, the state’s epicenter of COVID-19 cases.

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President Donald Trump said Tuesday he was going to speak with DeSantis about whether to allow the MS Zaandam to dock.

“They're dying on the ship,” Trump said. “I'm going to do what's right. Not only for us, but for humanity.”

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"Holland America estimated than fewer than 10 people need critical care onshore but that they have been pre-approved to enter a local medical facility.

"This small number is the only group that will require any support from medical resources in Broward County and is necessary to prevent further harm to their health," the cruise line said in response to DeSantis' concerns.

It continued, "The approximately 45 guests who still have mild illness and are unfit to travel at this time will continue to isolate on board until recovered. Disembarkation would be at a later date to be determined and only after they have recovered and are in alignment with CDC guidelines for being fit to travel."

Those guests, Holland America noted, "would transfer straight from the ship to flights for onward travel home, the majority on charter flights. Out of an abundance of caution, these guests will be transported in coaches that will be sanitized, with limited person-to-person contact and while wearing masks," the cruise line said. "These provisions well exceed what the CDC have advised is necessary for their travel.."

 

[Bailey38]

Chris Cuomo: (paraphrasing) symptoms last night haunted me! Wish I had this a month ago so I could have known then. If this happens again idk if we’d survive.
This virus came at me, I’ve never seen anything like it, shaking so hard I chipped my tooth, hallucinating about my dad, people from college I haven’t seen in years, might happen again tonight per doctor.

Very frightening! Also wanted to add that I am very happy that your salesman left quickly!

 

[Dontknow?]

I'm not sure because I read briefly about ozone generators over the years. I have 2. Our youngest told us about them years ago when she worked at a famous Inn. They used them to eliminate smoke and other unpleasant smells in the rooms. I bought 2 about 6 years ago. They have a life expectancy per hours. Both have 5000k hours. Not sure if that's true or not.

I've used them about 15 time, times about 45 minutes at a time, then not realizing they are carcinogenic, over that time. That info wasn't mentioned then. Recommended to open windows afterwards and stay out of the building/house for 3 hours. No plants or animals inside. It destroys the current ozone and leaves no new ozone for one to rebuild etc...

They will kill almost anything. I'm seeing the coronavirus has been said to be destroyed possibly or fumigate places by using one. Stay away for at least a week in my opinion with open air clearing a building. Had no idea how dangerous but very powerful they are.

 

[Kensie]

Next shortage is laundry detergent?

It may be. Publix, a grocery store, was wiped out on TP, paper towels and laundry detergent. I prefer Nellies so I order from Amazon. So my 100 loads can may only last 3 months since I am doing laundry every day for 2 people!!! I am a laundry fanatic and my laundry room is fantastic.

 

[Trudie]

If I retired early at age 62 - my social security check would be around $1,240.00 per month. A 401k is definitely needed to supplement and pay the basic bills.
So if you’ve been frugal and planned for years and suddenly within a few weeks, you’ve lost your job, no unemployment check, 401k decimated - and not old enough to draw SS - and when you do it’s not enough to survive - it’s just freakin depressing.
JMO

I’m so beyond grateful it was instilled in me to save save save, never go in debt, work hard, save save save, then buy what you’ve earned. My daddy taught me at 18, don’t buy a new car and pay $400 monthly, pretend you did, and put the $400 monthly in savings. I’ve successfully lived my entire life with only an AX card, which, until recently had to be paid in full monthly. I taught my daughter the same lessons & she had amassed nearly $70k by time she graduated high school. Raise ‘em right, teach-’em young!

 

[KALI]

Yep, I bet Trump also called DeSantis yesterday and told him to lock down Florida. Hence the governor's announcement to do so today. Jmo

A bit of an update:

Coronavirus: Fla. governor taking residents from Holland America ships

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said at a press conference Wednesday his state was willing to accept Floridians on board Holland America cruise ships seeking to disembark in Florida after more than 190 guests and crew reported flu-like symptoms, including eight passengers who tested positive for COVID-19.

Florida officials, DeSantis said, are "working on a solution" to disembark other passengers, including foreign nationals, in a way that does not drain resources in South Florida, the state’s epicenter of COVID-19 cases.

<snip>

President Donald Trump said Tuesday he was going to speak with DeSantis about whether to allow the MS Zaandam to dock.

“They're dying on the ship,” Trump said. “I'm going to do what's right. Not only for us, but for humanity.”

<snip>

"Holland America estimated than fewer than 10 people need critical care onshore but that they have been pre-approved to enter a local medical facility.

"This small number is the only group that will require any support from medical resources in Broward County and is necessary to prevent further harm to their health," the cruise line said in response to DeSantis' concerns.

It continued, "The approximately 45 guests who still have mild illness and are unfit to travel at this time will continue to isolate on board until recovered. Disembarkation would be at a later date to be determined and only after they have recovered and are in alignment with CDC guidelines for being fit to travel."

Those guests, Holland America noted, "would transfer straight from the ship to flights for onward travel home, the majority on charter flights. Out of an abundance of caution, these guests will be transported in coaches that will be sanitized, with limited person-to-person contact and while wearing masks," the cruise line said. "These provisions well exceed what the CDC have advised is necessary for their travel.."

 

[Trudie]

Has to be the Detroit airport is what I think. It is spreading like wildfire there. No Grand Haven/Lake MI for me this summer! Dang

I wonder why MI is such a hot spot. I don't know much about MI. I know NY and NJ are heavily populated but is MI that heavily populated - I don't know.

 

[KALI]

Only if you believe them. Personally, I do not believe anything China says. Zip, zero.

I looked at the chart again and apparently China reports differently than other countries.

If you click on the "yesterday" button you get 36 new cases and 7 new deaths. Wow, it's pretty much all over in China.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Next shortage is laundry detergent?

I hope not. I might go bonkers. This is one of the few things that might send me over the edge.

 

[Trudie]

Lol I had the huge Samsung front load washer, then the mold problem started, so I got a new top load. I’ll wash one thing. Wish my dog could go for a spin, but I’ll tackle her with the hose tomorrow. I’m obsessed with sanitizing,I guess boredom makes me worse.

It may be. Publix, a grocery store, was wiped out on TP, paper towels and laundry detergent. I prefer Nellies so I order from Amazon. So my 100 loads can may only last 3 months since I am doing laundry every day for 2 people!!! I am a laundry fanatic and my laundry room is fantastic.

 

[KALI]

You, me and many millions more...

I receive SS but I also have a supplemental income because SS is hardly enough to cover monthly expenses. I no longer have that supplemental income because of the virus.

 

[Trudie]

Very frightening! Also wanted to add that I am very happy that your salesman left quickly!

As Chris described his rigor I was thinking of children getting Covid. Chris’s fever was extremely high last night, his doctor said he might get rigor 5 or more times. His wife & children tested negative, but they might be pre-symptomatic. I’m trying to figure out how I can live the rest of my life without ever leaving home, lol.

 

[Trudie]

Michigan on the cusp of ‘a pretty dramatic upswing’ in COVID-19 cases, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer says
As of Wednesday, Michigan has 9,334 total confirmed cases and 337 deaths. One week ago, the state had 2,295 cases and 43 deaths.

 

[otto]

I’m so beyond grateful it was instilled in me to save save save, never go in debt, work hard, save save save, then buy what you’ve earned. My daddy taught me at 18, don’t buy a new car and pay $400 monthly, pretend you did, and put the $400 monthly in savings. I’ve successfully lived my entire life with only an AX card, which, until recently had to be paid in full monthly. I taught my daughter the same lessons & she had amassed nearly $70k by time she graduated high school. Raise ‘em right, teach-’em young!

Never go into debt is the thing. So many people complete their studies, get a lucrative job, make arrangements to pay student loan, and before they know it they're also making arrangements to make mortgage and car payments. It's all overwhelming so fast - living on borrowed money - but it seems like a good idea. When there's a glitch in the system, like a pandemic, all ---- breaks loose.

 

[otto]

I hope not. I might go bonkers. This is one of the few things that might send me over the edge.

Buy a supply in the next grocery order, and then buy another supply in the next grocery order even though you don't need it right away - just to be on the safe side.

 

[WildWest]

she had amassed nearly $70k by time she graduated high school.

How does a school aged child earn $70K ?

 

[Recidivist]

Yeah, I received the message from my sons school today (Florida). I would be very surprised if they really did have them go back, and think it is just wishful thinking on their part. I have no plans to send my son back to school, and if they do re-open, will have him finish online.

I also got a call from the school folks. There will be no more school for this year., here in California.

 

[Trudie]

Never go into debt is the thing. So many people complete their studies, get a lucrative job, make arrangements to pay student loan, and before they know it they're also making arrangements to make mortgage and car payments. It's all overwhelming so fast - living on borrowed money - but it seems like a good idea. When there's a glitch in the system, like a pandemic, all ---- breaks loose.

Parents fail to teach their kids financial responsibility. My kid couldn’t wait to turn 18 to open her own portfolio.
I guess debt is instant gratification. I could not sleep if I owed anyone a buck.