Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #42

[Picklebot]

Yeah, over filling the freezer is a big no no. Not sure if this is what caused your breakdown. Just a PSA to all........stocking tight the fridge.........no problem. Tight stocking ( no air circulation) the freezer will destroy your appliances. Been there, done that. moo

No, it was just an old fridge that has been on the decline for awhile. This wasn't from overstocking and wasn't really a surprise. The timing really sucks though.

 

[tresir2012]

This was my source for the the info. Florida Governor Doesn’t Want Cruise Ship Carrying Sick to Dock in State

138 plus 166 = 304 which is close to the 305 I mentioned. Thanks for clarifying. So they took some off to go onto the Rotterdam. Maybe that's sailing on to another port. I wonder how they transferred them mid ocean as they weren't allowed in port?

"Holland America said the Zaandam currently has 138 U.S. citizens on board, while another 166 U.S. citizens were transferred to the Rotterdam."

 

[NuttMegg]

Exactly. Those who already receive SS check should be in good shape. The people who are not in good shape are the working class who just lost their income. They need the checks to cover rent and food for a few months.

Otto, both groups are getting checks. Even ppl who have NOT lost their jobs are getting the check if they earn below the threshold.

The idea is to stimulate the economy. Generally less wealthy ppl actually will use that extra money to stimulate the economy, ie buy something, whereas more wealthy people would save it.

 

[MassGuy]

Exactly. Those who already receive SS check should be in good shape. The people who are not in good shape are the working class who just lost their income. They need the checks to cover rent and food for a few months.

That’s what the enhanced unemployment benefits are for.

The stimulus checks are a necessary supplement as well though, and those receiving social security are eligible for that.

 

[Lilibet]

Netflix Pandemic was too boring - IMHO. If someone has a vaccine, everyone would know.

I found it fascinating, but to each his own. However, one of the researchers featured on “Pandemic,” Dr Glanville, is on his way to testing a short acting, but immediate vaccine for coronavirus that could be a cure. Watching how his research on a universal flu vaccine was conducted in the documentary was very interesting.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/01/doctor-in-netflix-doc-says-he-discovered-potential-coronavirus-cure/

 

[Footwarrior]

Feel free to disagree, but I find it barbaric to not let a ship dock, with people dying of a disease. I know Florida has their own problems, but you find a way to end that situation, not punt. I never could imagine such issues in the States, and the disregard for life. There are people on those ships that are not sick too.

Florida might have a point if there were no coronavirus cases in the state.

It’s also worth remembering that Florida was celebrating spring break when this ship left port.

 

[MassGuy]

A bit of an update:

Coronavirus: Fla. governor taking residents from Holland America ships

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said at a press conference Wednesday his state was willing to accept Floridians on board Holland America cruise ships seeking to disembark in Florida after more than 190 guests and crew reported flu-like symptoms, including eight passengers who tested positive for COVID-19.

Florida officials, DeSantis said, are "working on a solution" to disembark other passengers, including foreign nationals, in a way that does not drain resources in South Florida, the state’s epicenter of COVID-19 cases.

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President Donald Trump said Tuesday he was going to speak with DeSantis about whether to allow the MS Zaandam to dock.

“They're dying on the ship,” Trump said. “I'm going to do what's right. Not only for us, but for humanity.”

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"Holland America estimated than fewer than 10 people need critical care onshore but that they have been pre-approved to enter a local medical facility.

"This small number is the only group that will require any support from medical resources in Broward County and is necessary to prevent further harm to their health," the cruise line said in response to DeSantis' concerns.

It continued, "The approximately 45 guests who still have mild illness and are unfit to travel at this time will continue to isolate on board until recovered. Disembarkation would be at a later date to be determined and only after they have recovered and are in alignment with CDC guidelines for being fit to travel."

Those guests, Holland America noted, "would transfer straight from the ship to flights for onward travel home, the majority on charter flights. Out of an abundance of caution, these guests will be transported in coaches that will be sanitized, with limited person-to-person contact and while wearing masks," the cruise line said. "These provisions well exceed what the CDC have advised is necessary for their travel.."

 

[musicaljoke]

My parents also lived WW2 in the NL. When my mom passed 2 years ago, 5 or 6 of us had to fill up several boxes each to take the food stuff, canned and dried goods home. She had enough to live for a couple of years without much help. She had valuables hidden all over the house, another hangover from the war where you never put all the valuables in one place (in case someone finds some of them).

I didn't hear stories about people being dragged to hiding, I did hear about children vanishing from school, one by one, and the under-group false-papers network.

They taught me how to plant a garden when I was 4 years old, and every summer we planted that garden, harvested the food, prepped it and ate it throughout the year regardless of pandemic. Not many people know how to do that anymore.

Are you my cousin?

 

[cass523]

For many individuals who develop symptoms of the coronavirus, it's better to stay home than seek health care in person. But when you have a disease with so many unknowns, not having a nurse or doctor to monitor your condition can be nerve-wracking.

Pulse Oximeter

It's an electronic hand-held device that measures the saturation of oxygen carried in a person's red blood cells, according to the American Lung Association. You usually attach it to your fingertip to get a reading.

"It calculates the oxygen level based on how red the blood is," Dr. Eric Cioe-Pena, an emergency medicine physician at Northwell Health in New York City, told TODAY. He added that it can detect changes in oxygen saturation "pretty readily."

"That's useful because in COVID-19, one of the things we're seeing is people with severe pneumonias who come to the hospital have low oxygen levels," Cioe-Pena said. "One of the ways you can monitor high-risk patients is by asking to get a pulse oximeter they can use at home."

The device helps patients when they're feeling short of breath answer the question, "Is this something that's serious and I need to go to the hospital, or this something I can wait and see about?" Cioe-Pena explained. A reading below 90 merits contacting your doctor "sooner rather than later," he added.
Most of these devices cost around $20-$60.

These devices can monitor coronavirus symptoms at home — but do you need one?

 

[otto]

Number of Ky. COVID-19 cases rises to 680; 2 more deaths reported

I’m glad our numbers are more reflective of the truth. Hopefully the naysaying group will exercise better judgement.

US is leading the world with deaths.

Coronavirus Update (Live): 935,114 Cases and 47,189 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer

 

[gregjrichards]

Nearly 3,000 sailors aboard a US aircraft carrier where the coronavirus has spread will be taken off the ship by Friday, Navy officials said Wednesday as they struggle to quarantine crew members in the face of an outbreak, AP reports.

So far, fewer than 100 of the nearly 5,000 sailors assigned to the USS Theodore Roosevelt, now docked in Guam, have tested positive for the virus, but the Navy is moving sailors into various facilities and probably will begin using hotel rooms in the coming days. Navy leaders are talking with government officials in the U.S. territory to identify rooms for the crew members.
Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly, however, made it clear that while several thousand will leave the ship, other sailors will remain on board in order to continue to protect the ship and run critical systems.

Coronavirus live news: Global cases near million mark as US federal stockpiles of medical gear dwindle

 

[CSIDreamer]

Are SS checks enough to pay the bills under normal circumstances, or do people supplement the SS income by working parttime?

A lot of people on SS are in section 8 housing and getting food stamps. Jmo

 

[musicaljoke]

Florida might have a point if there were no coronavirus cases in the state.

It’s also worth remembering that Florida was celebrating spring break when this ship left port.

Speaking to reporters in Ottawa on Thursday [March 12th], Ontario Premier Doug Ford said that despite fears over the COVID-19 outbreak, his advice to Ontario families was to “travel” and “have fun” on March Break.

Coronavirus outbreak: Doug Ford tells families to ‘have fun’ and ‘go away’ during March Break | Watch News Videos Online

 

[IceIce9]

If you're collecting social security and haven't filed a tax return you will receive no relief money.

Just saw this announced:
NEW: The Trump Administration is now saying seniors on Social Security must file a tax return to get a $1,200 check. This extra hurdle means millions of Americans will likely miss out on the payment

 

[Tippy Lynn]

For many individuals who develop symptoms of the coronavirus, it's better to stay home than seek health care in person. But when you have a disease with so many unknowns, not having a nurse or doctor to monitor your condition can be nerve-wracking.

Pulse Oximeter

It's an electronic hand-held device that measures the saturation of oxygen carried in a person's red blood cells, according to the American Lung Association. You usually attach it to your fingertip to get a reading.

"It calculates the oxygen level based on how red the blood is," Dr. Eric Cioe-Pena, an emergency medicine physician at Northwell Health in New York City, told TODAY. He added that it can detect changes in oxygen saturation "pretty readily."

"That's useful because in COVID-19, one of the things we're seeing is people with severe pneumonias who come to the hospital have low oxygen levels," Cioe-Pena said. "One of the ways you can monitor high-risk patients is by asking to get a pulse oximeter they can use at home."

The device helps patients when they're feeling short of breath answer the question, "Is this something that's serious and I need to go to the hospital, or this something I can wait and see about?" Cioe-Pena explained. A reading below 90 merits contacting your doctor "sooner rather than later," he added.
Most of these devices cost around $20-$60.

These devices can monitor coronavirus symptoms at home — but do you need one?

For those that are interested...

There's a Pulse Oximeter App for iPhone users. It uses your iPhone camera to detect your pulse and oxygen levels from your fingertip.

 

[Trudie]

No social distancing here!

'This is about survival': California tenants plan rent strikes as Covid-19 relief falls short

 

[Trudie]

Just saw this announced:
NEW: The Trump Administration is now saying seniors on Social Security must file a tax return to get a $1,200 check. This extra hurdle means millions of Americans will likely miss out on the payment

How will they miss out, by failure to file?

 

[Lilibet]

Idk, I am asking, is there an anticipated interruption to SS payments?

No.

No interruption in SS so far. But we're talking about 2019 for the filing. But now there's financial impact with not being able to shop, not being able to go to the doctor, and of course if that older person is sharing an apartment with a relative who has lost a job....
Also many SS recipients still work, and they may have lost that job or self employment.
And, they may be drawing from 401K's that suddenly are decimated.
And lower COLA now that the fed lowered interest rates.

Another financial impact for those on low end fixed incomes (usually SS only) is higher prices which means their SS check doesn’t go as far. If they are eligible for food stamps, they won’t go as far. Personally, I have no problem with these folks getting a stimulus check. They’ve worked all their lives and have very little. I count some among my friends. We plan to anonymously distribute our check among friends who lost their jobs. We’d help out our SS friends but it would mess up the income they declare to the state for other benefits, like home help, etc.
JMO

 

[cass523]

Small company in Texas town could have new solution to ventilator shortage

A ventilator in the form of a helmet Cost $162.00

With the shortage of ventilators a critical issue in the battle against the coronavirus, one small business in the town of Waxahachie, Texas, is stepping up with an innovation that could be a game-changer.

video

Small company in Texas town could have new solution to ventilator shortage

 

[Trudie]

A lot of people on SS are in section 8 housing and getting food stamps. Jmo

Food stamps will continue, correct? I owned a complex that was predominantly Section 8 (so glad to be rid of that migraine), the typical tenant paid very little rent, after working his income down per HUD. In fact most had more monthly disposable income left than a working couple.