Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #43

[BHughes]

Imo, something must be done about people that blatantly disregard directives. Otherwise, defiance will only worsen.
imo, it’s kinda like shoplifting, get away with it once,
try again tomorrow. I live on a main state road, it is as busy as any normal Friday evening. I have no idea where all the cars are headed, wmt, Lowe’s, mcD? It is literally bumper to bumper. Why?

I had stated earlier how the mayor here was selling popcorn in front of his theater on the sidewalk. People drive through, PAY for their corn and go..... I'm wondering how many times they are changing gloves after touching that money!!!! The stay-at-home order means nothing. How is the community suppose to take it seriously when their mayor doesn't.... SMH

 

[Boston Corbett]

Supplies could be delayed due to confusion from the White House, companies say (CNN)

 

[NuttMegg]

Such sobering news. Lethality rate is higher than originally thought (to my way of thinking, a lot higher):

Current COVID-19 situation updated (all data & graphs)

In the US about 1% of diagnosed 40-49 year olds died. Keep in mind that only sicker people are getting tests - that's really important in interpreting it. But, until a couple of days ago, it was zero people in that group - and we haven't reached peak.

In my age group, it's 6% (initially reported as 1%, then 2% now not quite 6%). That's 60-69 year olds.

For 70-79 it's 17% (keep in mind that this is of TESTED cases - people with symptoms severe enough to warrant hospital admission - almost no where is testing people with mild or even moderate symptoms)

80+. it's about 25% (of Tested cases).

Sobering. And with everyone in the US going exponential (starting today, more or less), this needs more radical measures - by which I mean a huge research focus on drugs that really work to mitigate.

Also, sadly, more public education about what the symptoms are and when to go to hospital - people still think this is "the flu."

It is a virus that can suddenly attack your lungs (putting it very simply).

Sudden Attack Respiratory Virus (yes I know the medical word is acute, but not everyone uses that word every day - so for those of you still trying to explain to others, emphasize how it can get SUDDEN really fast).

I wish we could insist on testing. I wish we had enough tests.

Erin Burnett just interviewed a woman whose 42 year old husband just died of COVID, it was gut wrenching. Happened very fast, he left a school that loved him, kids, and the wife. Forty two.

 

[Trudie]

42 states now have stay-at-home orders for coronavirus. These are the 8 that don't.

 

[Simply Southern]

I think it’s useful to remember Comfort is a battle hospital. It’s used to treating physical injuries and in particular, injuries sustained by soldiers. It’s not set up to treat illness.

It would be easier to use in a terrorist attack or bombing where you have injuries rather than illness. I think everyone just wanted to do something without thinking how ambulances would get to the ship and how patients with communicable illness would be treated (or not). Each patient you move from a hospital to the ship requires another ambulance ride at a time when EMS is already stretched thin.

Usually there is a triage site. They can triage quickly, test and move to the Comfort. In disasters most use what is available, not every structure can serve the same purpose.

There is still lots of good the Comfort could provide. Broken hips, gallbladder flare ups, kidney stones, internal bleeding, heart attacks, strokes, colitis, and lots more. These are intensive diagnosis and require multiple resources...Xrays, scans, blood work, orthopedic work ups, IVs, help to the bathroom, meals, lots and lots of manpower.

Removing 1000 patients lifts a great deal of work load.

They also have the option of transferring non Covid19 patients to outlying hospitals. In a small community many of our hospitals have to divert to outlying hospitals up to an hour or more away, during peak outbreaks of respiratory illness or flu.

The Comfort is such a valuable resource, yes inconvenience to access, but it TOP notch medical care.

If she's not needed maybe they will bring her back to Virginia. Shes to valuable resource. We sure can use her. We've several thousand beds short, have three major hot spots, and positives increasing daily or Flordia it will be out of control soon, as well.

Eta... I am real partial and protective of the Comfort. I've had the pleasure of touring her in Norfolk, VA. She is amazing, state of the art, and massive. Its just something about all those Navy folks in all white uniforms, it is impressive.

Moo...

 

[Bravo]

We are not seeing a lot of people out walking here in my City. A few and most dog walking. When approaching people we just crossed the road. We wanted to see if it was doable. It was. Had we been in a spot we couldn't cross due to folks on the other side we would have gone up on someones lawn and waited for them to pass. I think it will be difficult when it really warms up here.

 

[Trudie]

Oh, failure to ID pisses me off. KY is a state most reluctant to not name public venues that are essentially ‘hot spots’. I feel like failure to do so is protecting the biz, not the public. Moo again, the first co I’d patient in KY worked at a rural WMT. WMT did not come forward for 2-3 days to confirm what was already known. They did however “disinfect the store”, how they accomplished to disinfect while open 24/7 escapes me. Disinfecting imo means removing every item in the store.
Once, when I worked for P & G, a wmt had a fire. All food product was removed & put in dumpsters, each package slit with a knife to promote spoilage & prevent dumpster diving. So, for possible smoke damage food got tossed but with Covid the store is disinfected during biz hours? Sorry, I don’t buy it.

Louisiana nursing homes with coronavirus clusters won't be ID'd anymore, officials say

On Friday, state officials said that 261 residents in 61 separate nursing facilities have tested positive for the highly contagious respiratory infection. Sixty have perished from complications related to the disease.
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Until Wednesday, the state had been naming the individual facilities where clusters have been identified. The state defines a cluster as two or more related cases.

But Thursday, amid a massive jump in total positive cases among all groups, officials said they would not issue an update, and that they had been working with the Centers for Disease Control on the best way to report on senior care facility infections. By Friday, health officials said the volume of homes made it too difficult to report the names of individual facilities.

 

[NuttMegg]

CNN at the Solid Rock Church, still holding big gatherings, interviewing ppl saying that they are covered with the blood of the lord and that disease can't get through to them. Everyone hugging, bringing in kids and babies. Blasé and defiant.

 

[Bravo]

Erin Burnett just interviewed a woman whose 42 year old husband just died of COVID, it was gut wrenching. Happened very fast, he left a school that loved him, kids, and the wife. Forty two.

I saw that. I believe her name is Erin Burnett who interviewed the Wife. I cried. Hard.

 

[10ofRods]

16,000 New Yorkers out of 100,000-240,000 Americans expected to die of the virus. Stay safe America, there will be more hot spots all over.

Yes. And don't anyone take this the wrong way, but we can learn from NY's experience. Some of NY doesn't apply to most of us (riding very crowded subways that stop frequently across many miles - yikes! with metal and plastic hosting the virus longer than most surfaces!)

(I didn't mean you personally, JerseyGirl - now is the time to tell you that you are doing a beyond awesome and magnificent job moderating and steering this thread - I feel like I know you and I love you, all the best to you).

I am so hoping it doesn't go to 240,000 deaths in the US but am prepared for even worse. Maybe we need a thread for pure venting. With a huge warning sign not to go in if you can't handle all the things.

Anyway, it's not a good day and I'm avoiding thinking about it as much as possible.

 

[JerseyGirl]

CNN at the Solid Rock Church, still holding big gatherings, interviewing ppl saying that they are covered with the blood of the lord and that disease can't get through to them. Everyone hugging, bringing in kids and babies. Blasé and defiant.

Churches are exempted under Gov. Mike DeWine's stay at home order that bans mass gatherings.

Monroe mayor asks Solid Rock Church to stop holding in-person services

Every state that has not, needs to ban church gatherings.

 

[ilovewings]

Why You Should Flush With The Lid Down: Experts Warn Of Fecal-Oral Transmission Of COVID-19

Yep, the last thing we want to think about, but flushing mechanisms in your toilet can aerosolize the virus in your feces.

i have done this for years--my husband wont do it period---

 

[Trudie]

I didn't mean you personally, JerseyGirl - now is the time to tell you that you are doing a beyond awesome and magnificent job moderating and steering this thread

Absolutely! Tysm @JerseyGirl

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Iowa news this afternoon: 'Maybe (Fauci) doesn't have all the information': Reynolds responds to WH medical adviser IMO-this was an interesting pc to say the least. I listen to them everyday.
Iowa Board of Medicine votes unanimously to recommend shelter-in-place order
Gov. Kim Reynolds says shelter-in-place topic 'divisive' while defending Iowa's coronavirus response
Top aide for Gov. Kim Reynolds says Iowa projection on coronavirus is coming next week

The Iowans I know are pretty unhappy with her right now. I can already tell which governors will be re-elected and which ones will be kicked to the curb.

 

[NuttMegg]

Churches are exempted under Gov. Mike DeWine's stay at home order that bans mass gatherings.

Monroe mayor asks Solid Rock Church to stop holding in-person services

Every state that has not, needs to ban church gatherings.

I'm not sure which state the Solid Rock Church was in that was just featured on CNN. But the reporter was interviewing people in cars as they entered, and one guy claimed he was the pastor and threatened to sue CNN for fake news. Some interviewed referred the reporter to Psalms, and claimed to be protected from COVID by the blood of Christ.

 

[Bravo]

In Ont. orders are go to work, pharmacy, grocery store when necessary. Walks are ok if distancing is maintained. Ford said today if it's not working then stricter measures will be enforced. Oh and no gatherings of more than 5 people. People walking and if more than 5 it's fine as long as they reside in the same residence. I hope people get on board and don't ruin it for the rest of us who are abiding the rules.

 

[Trudie]

Churches are exempted under Gov. Mike DeWine's stay at home order that bans mass gatherings.

Monroe mayor asks Solid Rock Church to stop holding in-person services

Every state that has not, needs to ban church gatherings.

I think fear of the unknown prevent states from enforcing church closures. Our governor stresses to us the dangers attending brings, but he does not go any further. Idk if a state can legally close a church, I’ve heard yes, and no.

 

[musicaljoke]

Have all of your beaches closed? I doubt it. Did Florida close Bike Week in Daytona with 500,000 in attendance just a few short weeks ago? No. Shut down Spring Break since the beginning of March? No. Did he shut down Super Bowl in Miami, admitting yesterday that he knew about the virus at the time? No.

Florida is also still allowing places of worship to gather together (even though residents are under a stay-at-home policy).

Florida's statewide stay-at-home order still allows gathering in places of worship during coronavirus outbreak

Oh my, I weep for the people of Florida.

 

[Chelly]

We had a short walk today. Everyone respecting distance. When home we grabbed 2 lawn chairs and called MIL that we would be there in 5 min. We met her at the back. She stayed up on her deck and we were in our lawn chairs on the lawn probably 30 ft. away. It was a nice visit. We folded up our chairs and put them in her detached garage for next time. It can be done. Safely.

Sweet.

 

[musicaljoke]

I think fear of the unknown prevent states from enforcing church closures. Our governor stresses to us the dangers attending brings, but he does not go any further. Idk if a state can legally close a church, I’ve heard yes, and no.

They can declare a State of Emergency, and legally close the churches.