Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #43

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How many more can Florida handle?
There had to be several scheduled ports/stops on that itinerary - so all of them turned them away too?
From my link:
"There are 1,898 people on the ship, including 1,020 passengers and 878 crew. Princess Cruises said in a statement Thursday that seven passengers and five crew members tested positive after the ship dropped off samples in Barbados on March 31.
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The ship began its journey on March 5 in San Antonio, Chile, and Kilbane said passengers haven’t been allowed on land since March 13."
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The ship itself apparently landed at Barbados on March 31, whether or not people got off, I don't know.
This appears to be their itinerary, if it is correct they would have been in Port Stanley, Falklands, on March 13, and then came up via the Atlantic, not needing to cross the Panama Canal. Other sites say The Coral Princess is supposed to go to Alaska in July, usually they land in Seward and take their passengers on closely packed buses and trains up to stay in closely packed hotels in Anchorage and Denali National Park, with many stops along the way to buy doodads like moose nugget earrings. Then they take all that closely packed transportation back to the port. I wish they would stay away. IMO.
Coral Princess - Itinerary Schedule, Current Position | CruiseMapper

ETA I bet they didn't test asymptomatic people in Barbados.
 
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I just talked to my Sister in Michigan. Her Son, my Nephew has the virus. At this point mild. He was the only of her 4 Children who returned to Canada years ago. He is in Toronto. Wife and 2 kids.
I am sorry to hear they are ill. I will keep them in my thoughts for a easy course and quick recovery.
 
  • #924
I’m not interested in nursing homes being named, I think they can notify anyone at risk. But when a store, restaurant, mechanic shop has positives, I think we all have a right to know. Not the patient of course, but the establishment & date. It can make us more aware if we are not feeling well & discover John Doe’s bagel shop has a positive employee (or several) & we got an order within the time frame.
Now, I realize at the onset of this chaotic catastrophe venues were not named. Public health did not need everyone that ate at any specific place phoning in, showing up at ERs, etc. also, they were able to collect a lot of info from phone data & locate hot spots. If any city USA received 100 calls and all had frequented the same “unannounced” place, valuable info was collected.
I like Michigan’s site, they list restaurants and stores with positive cases, including addresses & dates. Very helpful, imo. Fortunately, our local news stations are now collecting more info, info we don’t get from our daily PC. Moo

I am from Michigan but here in Fort Myers Florida for the winter. I must give credit to Michigan for much more transparency than the Sunshine state. I believe the public must know when there are positives at a restaurant, big box store or supermarket. It is in fact imperative and how dare Florida not share this information. As you know in criminal cases they make the entire case available to the public (remember the Casey Anthony case): it is irresponsible not to let the public know when there is a positive in a public facility that we do business with.
 
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I was in the vets once a few years ago when this woman and girl came in carrying two cats who they'd mistakenly put dog flea collars on. Both were seizing and both died. Such an easy mistake to make. So I wonder about the efficacy of this drug, too.

It's well known that you can't use dog flea treatment on cats. The box and inserts are covered with warnings. The fact that some people don't realise how serious it is to mistakenly use dog flea treatment on a cat should not create any barriers to testing the efficacy of Ivermectin on Coronavirus. Ivermectin is a well established antiparasitic. It's been used for 40 years. What's not known, is whether or not it will kill the virus in humans. But, we may find out soon.
 
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The state of Oregon is sending 140 ventilators to NY. We are so grateful to @OregonGovBrown and the people of Oregon. On behalf of the people of NY, I thank you and rest assured that NY will repay the favor when Oregon needs it.
 
  • #929
Absolutely! After our first case was announced, our Governor would not confirm “is it true the patient worked at WMT?” But in a town of 5k, nothing is confidential. Thank goodness. Same thing in my town at two restaurants, thankfully word spread. Anyone feeling ill deserves to know if their last waiter, cashier or drive in employee is positive, imo.

I am from Michigan but here in Fort Myers Florida for the winter. I must give credit to Michigan for much more transparency than the Sunshine state. I believe the public must know when there are positives at a restaurant, big box store or supermarket. It is in fact imperative and how dare Florida not share this information. As you know in criminal cases they make the entire case available to the public (remember the Casey Anthony case): it is irresponsible not to let the public know when there is a positive in a public facility that we do business with.
 
  • #930
The cause of this pandemic is about much more than the horrific cruelty to animals: it is the wet markets where bats and other animals are killed and their blood is dripping --they are being touched by people , maybe even being eaten and thus the virus is born. Animal cruelty is one separate subject-- it is horrific and horrible but the spread of the virus on the part of China is another and they are back at it with the wet markets and nobody in our country is addressing it with China and saying look, clean up your act or else-- whatever or else is the United States can figure it out.
First of all, I have not yet seen the origin confirmed as the wet market in Wuhan so will wait for that. I believe I read they have closed the market and banned cat and dog food trade but am not certain of that. I abhor any animal cruelty but am not a vegetarian and support our agriculture in the west. I think delving too deeply will be OT for this thread but perhaps when the aftermath and analysis begins, then could be the time to discuss. For now we have to win the battle against the virus. Blame game will come later, I am sure.
 
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Newborn twins named Corona and Covid - CityNews Toronto
''A couple in the Indian state of Chhattisgarh have named their newborn twins Corona and Covid.

The twins — a boy and a girl — were born during the ongoing 21-day long nationwide lockdown that began on March 24.

“The delivery happened after facing several difficulties and therefore, my husband and I wanted to make the day memorable,” Preeti Verma, the 27-old mother of the twins, told news agency Press Trust of India.

The couple said the names would remind them about the hardships they faced during the lockdown and ahead of the successful delivery in a government hospital last week.''

My kids should be relieved none of them was named Hypertension or Preeclampsia. LOL
 
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People!
I so hope that Ivermectin can whip Covid’s azz. Just thinking tho, parasites often return. Right? Or not. Lol
I hope no one runs to their nearest farm store to get Ivermectin, obviously it is not intended for human use. @tbone mentioned tasting it, lol, by accident & I’ve had more than one horse fling his head with a droplet of it landing in my mouth.
It's well known that you can't use dog flea treatment on cats. The box and inserts are covered with warnings. The fact that some people don't realise how serious it is to mistakenly use dog flea treatment on a cat should not create any barriers to testing the efficacy of Ivermectin on Coronavirus. Ivermectin is a well established antiparasitic. It's been used for 40 years. What's not known, is whether or not it will kill the virus in humans. But, we may find out soon.
 
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I had previously read a post that said they were all registered in the Bahamas. Sorry for the mistake.
No problem, dueling links.
 
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From my link:
"There are 1,898 people on the ship, including 1,020 passengers and 878 crew. Princess Cruises said in a statement Thursday that seven passengers and five crew members tested positive after the ship dropped off samples in Barbados on March 31.
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The ship began its journey on March 5 in San Antonio, Chile, and Kilbane said passengers haven’t been allowed on land since March 13."
----------------------------------
The ship itself apparently landed at Barbados on March 31, whether or not people got off, I don't know.
This appears to be their itinerary, if it is correct they would have been in Port Stanley, Falklands, on March 13, and then came up via the Atlantic, not needing to cross the Panama Canal. Other sites say The Coral Princess is supposed to go to Alaska in July, usually they land in Seward and take their passengers on closely packed buses and trains up to stay in closely packed hotels in Anchorage and Denali National Park, with many stops along the way to buy doodads like moose nugget earrings. Then they take all that closely packed transportation back to the port. I wish they would stay away. IMO.
Coral Princess - Itinerary Schedule, Current Position | CruiseMapper

ETA I bet they didn't test asymptomatic people in Barbados.
...and the cruise lines said they would be shutting down until mid-May. I really hope they will re-evaluate this situation as to not cause further harm.

Florida is expected to have it’s peak around May 4. At this rate, it may extend longer.

ETA: I think you are correct about not testing any in Barbados.
 
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No problem, dueling links.

This was the one I had just read from mickey.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article241740151.html

How many more cruise ships are still out there? The Coast Guard directed ships to go to the country that they are registered in, almost all of them are registered in "Bahamas". Bahamian government refused to allow the ships to dock.

There are still 12 cruise ships with passengers at sea.
Cruise ships are still scrambling for safe harbor
 
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...and the cruise lines said they would be shutting down until mid-May.
hopefully they mean May 2025! Covid or not, it seems to always be something with a cruise liner. Moo
 
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First of all, I have not yet seen the origin confirmed as the wet market in Wuhan so will wait for that. I believe I read they have closed the market and banned cat and dog food trade but am not certain of that. I abhor any animal cruelty but am not a vegetarian and support our agriculture in the west. I think delving too deeply will be OT for this thread but perhaps when the aftermath and analysis begins, then could be the time to discuss. For now we have to win the battle against the virus. Blame game will come later, I am sure.
Dr. Fauci says it's 'mind-boggling' that any of China's wet markets are still operating

White House coronavirus task force member Dr. Anthony Fauci said on Friday that all of China's wet markets should be shut down immediately in light of the pandemic ravaging much of the world.

“It boggles my mind how, when we have so many diseases that emanate out of that unusual human-animal interface, that we just don't shut it down,” Fauci told “Fox & Friends.”

“I don’t know what else has to happen to get us to appreciate that,” Fauci said.

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Fauci said that other countries should speak out against any unsanitary selling of wildlife.

“In other countries in which this is commonplace, I would like to see the rest of the world really lean with a lot of pressure on those countries that have that because what we’re going through right now is a direct result of that,” he said.
 
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