Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #46

[tresir2012]

According to the Food and Drug Administration, “Serological tests measure the amount of antibodies or proteins present in the blood when the body is responding to a specific infection, like COVID-19. In other words, the test detects the body’s immune response to the infection caused by the virus rather than detecting the virus itself."

“It would be very useful, helpful, even reassuring to people to know, ‘Have I been infected, and I am potentially protected now?’ Imagine in the workplace,” Poland said. “It would be a great help to know if I had indeed been infected and now recovered from that and now able to take care of patients.”

“We think having the serology test, having access to that, will be really important because there may be people who had an illness in February or March and didn’t go to the doctor for it, and maybe they think, ‘Maybe I had it,’" DeSantis said. "And then you can also spot-check a representative sample to see how many people in our society have the antibodies.”

The governor didn’t give a timeline for when COVID-19 antibody testing would be available.

Poland said it’s not yet known whether the presence of antibodies specific to COVID-19 means a person will never be reinfected.

Mayo Clinic said what is clear is that serology will contribute to wide-ranging areas of COVID-19 diagnosis, treatment and research.
Serology tests could be instrumental in stopping spread of coronavirus

Hmmm from your post -

"Poland said it’s not yet known whether the presence of antibodies specific to COVID-19 means a person will never be reinfected."

This is the crux of the matter IMO.

Haven't we heard stories of people in China or Italy getting it again? Or did I imagine that?

 

[FrostOwl]

Of 62 ICU patients with Covid-19 at Karolinska hospital in Stockholm, 48 survived and 14 died. It makes the survival rate 80 percent, much higher than the 50 percent survival rate that studies in the UK, and Washington state had had. The number of ICU cases in Stockholm is still low, but looks promising.
80 procent överlever intensivvården på Karolinska: ”Hoppfullt”

 

[katydid23]

The other day I heard Dr. Fauci say, and paraphrasing moo, that all he can do is his best to try to advise the President.

I wonder if DT is trying to open things back up and Dr. Fauci is trying to ask for restraint and caution, and this is causing one of the conflicts.

I am a little confused by Dr Fauci lately. He seems to be kind of inconsistent.

For example, on Feb 29th he said : "Right now at this moment, there is no need to change anything you are doing on a day by day basis...right now the risk is still low, but this could change....Ive said that many times...when you start to see community spread , this could change...."



Fauci: February 29 pic.twitter.com/PxwbdQ5WSu



So Dr F didnt seem to be telling the nation to shut down or anything, at that time.
He said it could change in the future, but at the time he said it was fine.

However NOW, in an interview with Rev. Al Shaprton on MSNBC. Fauci said he told the administration “we were in real trouble” from the COVID-19 Chinese coronavirus in mid to late January.

If so, why wasn't he telling the public those warnings, instead of saying we could go about our business, etc.

I feel like he is trying to provide himself some cover here. He could have alerted everyone sooner if he thought it was necessary. But he himself said it was fine the way we were doing things. So hearing him going on all of these shows today, saying her tried to warn the president but he wouldn't listen? Seems odd, considering Dr F was also saying things were fine. JMO

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Everyone is building their own goods today. Much of the supply chain relied on China, NATO countries and allies. One day, everyone realized that some situations require self-reliance.

It's interesting to see a resurgence of innovation in science, engineering and design. It's like people finally have a real-life problem to solve, and they are hitting it head-on in every country.

I think this will alter how countries rely on each other in terms of sustainable living. Some things can be outsourced, but N96 masks, gloves, tests, shields, ventilators all need to be sourced locally forever. What else?

Interesting point about how long antibodies can be detected in someone who is, or has been, sick. It looks like antibodies can be detected 5-7 days after someone is infected. Are antibodies present 2 months after recovery?

This has been my question too. My daughter in NYC thinks she had this very early on....but has no way to get antibodies testing... But it is going into the second month of when she thought she was sick...

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

Coronavirus: The NHS nurses praised by Boris Johnson for 'standing at my bedside for 48 hours'

Coronavirus: The NHS nurses praised by Boris Johnson for 'standing at my bedside for 48 hours'
Luis Pitarma from Portugal and Jenny McGee from New Zealand were singled out for praise by the PM after his hospital stay.

Two nurses praised by Boris Johnson are keeping quiet about their new-found fame but have quickly made their native countries proud.

The prime minister spent seven nights at St Thomas' Hospital in central London, three of them in intensive care, after his coronavirus symptoms worsened.


In a video recorded after his release on Sunday, he praised the hospital's workers, saying the NHS had "saved my life, no question".

In his video, Mr Johnson gave particular thanks to two nurses - Jenny from the New Zealand town of Invercargill and Luis from Portugal.

He said the two "stood by my bedside for 48 hours when things could have gone either way".

The two nurses were Jenny McGee and Luis Pitarma and neither have given interviews so far, quite possibly because they're still busy at work treating other COVID-19 patients.

 

[Trino]

And, they walk among us...
True short story. My brother WAS part of a loosely organized hiking group of about 20 people in northern CA until coronavirus hit. It was then the organizer espoused his views, saying the hikes would continue, despite a stay at home order. Why? Because the organizer stated coronavirus was a big hoax, never happened. It was an attempt by the government to take away guns and individual rights.
Yes. These people walk among us.

 

[tresir2012]

Can you catch coronavirus twice? South Korea reports 91 recovered patients tested positive

South Korea reported Friday that almost 100 patients thought to have recovered from the new coronavirus had tested positive again, sparking fears that populations could become re-infected with COVID-19.

The Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced that 91 people who had previously been cleared of the virus had tested positive. The KCDC had said the number had risen from 51 cases reported earlier in the week.

Spain begins to ease coronavirus lockdown measures

Spain, one of the countries worst hit by the coronavirus, is beginning to ease strict lockdown measures that have brought its economy to a standstill.

People in manufacturing, construction and some services are being allowed to return to work, but must stick to strict safety guidelines.

The rest of the population must still remain at home.

Almost 17,500 people with Covid-19 have died in Spain, but the rate of new infections has been falling.

Italy - the hardest-hit country in Europe, with almost 19,900 deaths - will allow a narrow range of firms to resume operations on Tuesday.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

Nearly 10,000 cases in Ireland, US could reopen 'in some ways' next month: Today's Covid-19 main points

(Ireland)

YESTERDAY, HEALTH OFFICIALS confirmed that 14 more people had died from Covid-19 in Ireland, bringing the total number of deaths to 334.

430 new cases were also confirmed yesterday along with an additional 297 confirmed cases in lab results returning from Germany.



There are now 9,655 total cases of Covid-19 in Ireland.

Of those for whom the transmission status of the disease is known, community transmission accounts for 66%, close contact accounts for 26% and travel abroad accounts for 7%.

Here are today’s Covid-19 main points:

• Younger people have reported speaking to more people face-to-face than older people since restrictions to stop the spread of Covid-19 were introduced.
• 14 more deaths from Covid-19 and 430 more confirmed cases were announced yesterday by health officials.
• How and when the restrictions on the Irish public during the Covid-19 crisis are lifted will have to be examined “very carefully” to prevent a “potentially very dangerous peak” of new cases here.
• A further 11 people died in Northern Ireland bringing the death toll there to 118 as of yesterday. There are now 1,806 confirmed cases of the disease in NI.
• Over 100 fines were issued for large house parties, barbecues and other lockdown breaches by NI police at the weekend.
• Recent reports of animals testing positive for Covid-19 should be taken seriously, but there is still no indication pets are transmitting the disease to humans, the Veterinary Council of Ireland (VCI) has said.

 

[Trino]

Yeah. This would go over well with all of us (definitely not).
Trump wants to fire Fauci.
Coronavirus live updates: Trump retweets call to fire Fauci

 

[Trino]

Coronavirus: The NHS nurses praised by Boris Johnson for 'standing at my bedside for 48 hours'

Coronavirus: The NHS nurses praised by Boris Johnson for 'standing at my bedside for 48 hours'
Luis Pitarma from Portugal and Jenny McGee from New Zealand were singled out for praise by the PM after his hospital stay.

Two nurses praised by Boris Johnson are keeping quiet about their new-found fame but have quickly made their native countries proud.

The prime minister spent seven nights at St Thomas' Hospital in central London, three of them in intensive care, after his coronavirus symptoms worsened.


In a video recorded after his release on Sunday, he praised the hospital's workers, saying the NHS had "saved my life, no question".

In his video, Mr Johnson gave particular thanks to two nurses - Jenny from the New Zealand town of Invercargill and Luis from Portugal.

He said the two "stood by my bedside for 48 hours when things could have gone either way".

The two nurses were Jenny McGee and Luis Pitarma and neither have given interviews so far, quite possibly because they're still busy at work treating other COVID-19 patients.

This is a wonderful gesture, but would regular people get the same attention?

 

[Tillicum]

I am a little confused by Dr Fauci lately. He seems to be kind of inconsistent.

For example, on Feb 29th he said : "Right now at this moment, there is no need to change anything you are doing on a day by day basis...right now the risk is still low, but this could change....Ive said that many times...when you start to see community spread , this could change...."



Fauci: February 29 pic.twitter.com/PxwbdQ5WSu



So Dr F didnt seem to be telling the nation to shut down or anything, at that time.
He said it could change in the future, but at the time he said it was fine.

However NOW, in an interview with Rev. Al Shaprton on MSNBC. Fauci said he told the administration “we were in real trouble” from the COVID-19 Chinese coronavirus in mid to late January.

If so, why wasn't he telling the public those warnings, instead of saying we could go about our business, etc.

I feel like he is trying to provide himself some cover here. He could have alerted everyone sooner if he thought it was necessary. But he himself said it was fine the way we were doing things. So hearing him going on all of these shows today, saying her tried to warn the president but he wouldn't listen? Seems odd, considering Dr F was also saying things were fine. JMO

Yeah I saw the Sharpton/Fauci interview last night. Went to bed thinking it totally contradicted his late February remarks. I want to be able to trust what he says but kind of hard to do now IMO.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

This is a wonderful gesture, but would regular people get the same attention?

If by regular people you mean the general public then yes, of course. NHS staff and facilities are excellent, everyone gets the same care and attention in an NHS hospital. IMO

 

[SA55]

This has been my question too. My daughter in NYC thinks she had this very early on....but has no way to get antibodies testing... But it is going into the second month of when she thought she was sick...

There is an antibody clinical trial at NIH - she could try to get tested for antibodies in that.
SARS-COV2 Pandemic Serosurvey and Blood Sampling - Full Text View - ClinicalTrials.gov

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Trump retweeted a threat to fire Fauci after he said the US's slow response to COVID-19 has cost lives

• On Sunday, President Donald Trump retweeted a call to fire Dr. Anthony Fauci to his 76.8 million followers.
• The tweet was in response to Dr. Fauci telling CNN earlier in the day that "no one is going to deny" that lives could have been saved if the US implemented containment measures earlier on in the novel coronavirus outbreak.
• It comes one week after Trump stopped Dr. Fauci from weighing in on what he thought about using hydroxychloroquine, an anti-malaria drug, on patients with COVID-19.
  
• It's not clear whether it's more than a threat, but Trump has fired several prominent public servants over the last few weeks.
• ...

We are doomed if we lose Fauci. Absolutely doomed.

 

[CeeCeeCat]

This is a wonderful gesture, but would regular people get the same attention?

Speaking from personal experience (thankfully not coronavirus-related), likely not. The NHS is wonderful, but even before this it was stretched thin. I don’t like to think back to what I endured a few years ago.

 

[CeeCeeCat]

We are doomed if we lose Fauci. Absolutely doomed.

He is such an honourable man. With integrity, decency and professionalism shining through.
I really hope he isn’t silenced (fired, whatever we want to call it).

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

Speaking from personal experience (thankfully not coronavirus-related), likely not. The NHS is wonderful, but even before this it was stretched thin. I don’t like to think back to what I endured a few years ago.

Sorry to see you had a bad experience. My experiences were completely different. I couldn't sing their praises hard enough tbh.

 

[tresir2012]

This is a wonderful gesture, but would regular people get the same attention?

Apparently so if you watch his video.

Boris Johnson #StayHomeSaveLives (@BorisJohnson) | Twitter

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Boris Johnson #StayHomeSaveLives
@BorisJohnson

It is hard to find the words to express my debt to the NHS for saving my life. The efforts of millions of people across this country to stay home are worth it. Together we will overcome this challenge, as we have overcome so many challenges in the past. #StayHomeSaveLives


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3:00 PM · Apr 12, 2020·Twitter Media Studio

This is a report about the NZ nurse the PM particularly mentioned. She said she treated him like any other patient.

Please will posters stop insinuating normal people do not get the same treatment, when you have no evidence.

Caring for PM in hospital 'surreal' for nurse

Jenny McGee, along with Luis Pitarma from Portugal, was praised by the PM for standing at his bedside "when things could have gone either way".

Ms McGee's parents told Television New Zealand they are "exceptionally proud".

They said she treated Mr Johnson like any other patient.

Mr Johnson was discharged from St Thomas' Hospital in London on Sunday, one week after being admitted to be treated for coronavirus. He spent several nights in the intensive care unit where he was given oxygen.

He said the NHS "has saved my life, no question" and paid tribute to many medics, singling out Ms McGee and Mr Pitarma specifically.

Caring for PM in hospital 'surreal' for nurse

 

[Sundog]

Trump's developer friend Stanley Chera dies of coronavirus

Saddened to hear this.

 

[BUF]

Trump retweeted a threat to fire Fauci after he said the US's slow response to COVID-19 has cost lives

• On Sunday, President Donald Trump retweeted a call to fire Dr. Anthony Fauci to his 76.8 million followers.
• The tweet was in response to Dr. Fauci telling CNN earlier in the day that "no one is going to deny" that lives could have been saved if the US implemented containment measures earlier on in the novel coronavirus outbreak.
• It comes one week after Trump stopped Dr. Fauci from weighing in on what he thought about using hydroxychloroquine, an anti-malaria drug, on patients with COVID-19.
  
• It's not clear whether it's more than a threat, but Trump has fired several prominent public servants over the last few weeks.
• ...

Sadly this is a time when we need the years of experience that Dr. Fauci has. IMO his hands were tied in what he could say and how he had to adjust his comments, but no longer can keep quiet about this. Evidence is being reported on the sequence of what occurred and it is not good.

#keepfauci