Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #46

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  • #941
Sorry to see you had a bad experience. My experiences were completely different. I couldn't sing their praises hard enough tbh.
Me too. Have only had positive experiences. Depends on the area trust. But St. Thomas' is the No. 1 teaching hospital, possibly in the world IMO. Hence one of the nurses being from NZ.
 
  • #942
Yeah I saw the Sharpton/Fauci interview last night. Went to bed thinking it totally contradicted his late February remarks. I want to be able to trust what he says but kind of hard to do now IMO.

If you look at the tweet that the President re-tweeted, it appears that he re-tweeted it to show that even Fauci didn't think drastic action should be taken in the U.S. at the end of February.

DeAnna Lorraine, a former Republican congressional candidate, called out Fauci in her own tweet and said he told people in late February that "there was nothing to worry about and it posed no threat to the US public at large. Time to #FireFauci."

Trump implied that if there were widespread concerns about the virus in the White House in January, surely Fauci would have known in late February.
 
  • #943
We are doomed if we lose Fauci. Absolutely doomed.
I interpreted his tweet as saying the criticism and call to fire Fauci was fake news.
 
  • #944
If you look at the tweet that the President re-tweeted, it appears that he re-tweeted it to show that even Fauci didn't think drastic action should be taken in the U.S. at the end of February.

DeAnna Lorraine, a former Republican congressional candidate, called out Fauci in her own tweet and said he told people in late February that "there was nothing to worry about and it posed no threat to the US public at large. Time to #FireFauci."

Trump implied that if there were widespread concerns about the virus in the White House in January, surely Fauci would have known in late February.
Yeah I agree. I want to know why Fauci changed his tune yesterday.
 
  • #945
ICU usually involves 1 nurse per patient, for those who have never been inside one. My sister's life was saved in an ICU some years ago so I have experienced how they work. These are the details for those who may not know.

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Intensive care units (ICUs) are specialist hospital wards that provide treatment and monitoring for people who are very ill.

They're staffed with specially trained healthcare professionals and contain sophisticated monitoring equipment.

ICUs are also sometimes called critical care units (CCUs) or intensive therapy units (ITUs).

severe head injury, a serious fall or severe burns
  • major surgery – this can either be a planned part of your recovery, or an emergency measure if there are complications
What intensive care involves
Patients on an ICU will be looked after closely by a team of ICU staff and will be connected to equipment by a number of tubes, wires and cables.

There will normally be 1 nurse for every 1 or 2 patients.

This equipment is used to monitor their health and support their bodily functions until they recover.

Equipment that may be used on an ICU includes:

  • a ventilator – a machine that helps with breathing; a tube is placed in the mouth, nose or through a small cut in the throat (tracheostomy)
  • monitoring equipment – used to measure important bodily functions, such as heart rate, blood pressure and the level of oxygen in the blood
  • IV lines and pumps – tubes inserted into a vein (intravenously) to provide fluids, nutrition and medication
  • feeding tubes – tubes placed in the nose, through a small cut made in the tummy or into a vein if a person is unable to eat normally
  • drains and catheters – drains are tubes used to remove any build-up of blood or fluid from the body; catheters are thin tubes inserted into the bladder to drain pee
Someone in an ICU will often be on painkilling medicine and medicine that makes them drowsy (sedatives).

This is because some of the equipment used can be uncomfortable.

depression, anxiety or post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD)
  • problems with mental abilities – for example, not being able to think clearly and being forgetful
These problems can last several months. Get medical advice if they're a persistent issue for you or a loved one.

Some people may require ongoing support and treatment (rehabilitation) to help them recover.

consent (permission) for a particular treatment or procedure.

If they knew they were going into intensive care, they may have nominated someone to make decisions about treatment on their behalf (a designated decision maker) or made an advance decision about any treatments they do not want to have.

If this was not possible in an emergency situation, the ICU staff treating them will usually decide what they feel is in their best interests.

They'll talk things over with you and the person's family whenever possible.

Find out more about giving consent to treatment

ICU steps – a charity and support group for ICU patients and their loved ones that produces a detailed intensive care guide (PDF, 962kb)
Page last reviewed: 19 June 2019
Next review due: 19 June 2022
 
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  • #946
This is a wonderful gesture, but would regular people get the same attention?
I believe so, in Intensive Care. A few years ago my dad had a brain bleed and was in an ICU in Oxford. He had two nurses allocated to him.
 
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This is from the Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19) – Statistics and Research webpage. There is a more detailed explanation about 1/4 of the way down the page.

If you like stats, you will love this page.

"The number of tests performed is different to the number of individuals tested. The reason for this is that it is common for COVID-19 testing that the same person is tested more than once. Some countries report tests performed, while others report the number of individuals tested."

Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19) – Statistics and Research
 
  • #949
Yeah I agree. I want to know why Fauci changed his tune yesterday.

I don't think he changed his tune as he did not assign blame to anybody. Rather, he was just speaking analytically. In the end, what Fauci said is accurate: Lives could have been saved with an earlier response.

As to whether the need for an earlier response was foreseeable (even by him), or could be implemented in the practical sense is another matter.

I hope Fauci is not fired. Our nation needs him. At the same time, he needs to realize that his remarks can carry political weight as they can imply blame.

Fauci does not have the luxury of being able to make off the cuff remarks or make analytical observation with out forethought- especially when he works for a well.... "hyper sensitive" boss and he himself stated earlier that there was no cause for alarm.
 
  • #950
Apparently so if you watch his video.

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This is a report about the NZ nurse the PM particularly mentioned. She said she treated him like any other patient.

Please will posters stop insinuating normal people do not get the same treatment, when you have no evidence.

Caring for PM in hospital 'surreal' for nurse

Jenny McGee, along with Luis Pitarma from Portugal, was praised by the PM for standing at his bedside "when things could have gone either way".

Ms McGee's parents told Television New Zealand they are "exceptionally proud".

They said she treated Mr Johnson like any other patient.

Mr Johnson was discharged from St Thomas' Hospital in London on Sunday, one week after being admitted to be treated for coronavirus. He spent several nights in the intensive care unit where he was given oxygen.

He said the NHS "has saved my life, no question" and paid tribute to many medics, singling out Ms McGee and Mr Pitarma specifically.

Caring for PM in hospital 'surreal' for nurse

I love that PM Boris Johnson specifically credited Jenny McGee from NZ, and Luis Pitarma from Portugal. Sometimes we get so ethnocentric or hyper-patriotic that we don't see that exceptional training and leadership happens in other countries.

That's one good thing that may come from this disease that knows no borders. We are compelled to look further afield to learn from other countries, to examine their methods of dealing with the disease, their medical treatment, research, economic impact and solutions, cultural practices, and how various countries plan to restore normal living.
 
  • #951
This is a wonderful gesture, but would regular people get the same attention?

My friend is a nurse on a Coronavirus ward in the UK. She says staffing levels are good so far and each patient has one or two nurses allocated to them, constantly monitoring. I can't wait to take her out for a slap up lunch when all this is over, she's been amazing!!

One poignant thing she did say is a huge number of hospital staff are non-British, dozens and dozens from Europe (and further afield) working their butts off. Makes me even more sad about Brexit; we need each and every one of these heroes.
 
  • #952
Trump retweeted a threat to fire Fauci after he said the US's slow response to COVID-19 has cost lives

  • On Sunday, President Donald Trump retweeted a call to fire Dr. Anthony Fauci to his 76.8 million followers.
  • The tweet was in response to Dr. Fauci telling CNN earlier in the day that "no one is going to deny" that lives could have been saved if the US implemented containment measures earlier on in the novel coronavirus outbreak.
  • It comes one week after Trump stopped Dr. Fauci from weighing in on what he thought about using hydroxychloroquine, an anti-malaria drug, on patients with COVID-19.
  • It's not clear whether it's more than a threat, but Trump has fired several prominent public servants over the last few weeks.
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Well ... is there a plan to rewrite history? How each country manages this pandemic will be dissected into every conceivable detail and studied by the entire world. There will be no backing away from the facts.

If the US was late to respond, then that will not be hidden. In fact, future pandemic protocol in the US will depend upon honest soul-searching and accurate information.
 
  • #953
Had a bit of a scare yesterday. Went for a morning bike ride alone and, long story short, wrecked my bike, flew over the handlebars, smashed my phone, and despite being bruised and bloody, was damn lucky I didn't break any bones. Have bad cuts on my thumb and leg and am really sore today (my shoulder hurts worse than anything today and that's not where any of my visible injuries were).

Long story short: my Easter was not what I expected but I feel very blessed that I didn't hurt myself worse and need to go to the ER. The last thing they need is me coming in there to take focus off other people and the last thing I need is having to go in there and get exposed. Perfect example of why staying at home is for everyone's benefit!
 
  • #954
Coronavirus-hit Mississippi, Louisiana, pounded by tornadoes, with at least 18 dead in the region

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Mississippi and Louisiana – two states dealing with an increase of coronavirus cases – were hit Sunday with a deadly storm system that produced dozens of tornadoes that ripped through hundreds of homes and buildings, resulting in at least 18 deaths reported in the region.

The National Weather Service's Storm Prediction Center (SPC) said severe thunderstorms will barrel now toward the East Coast, with the threat stretching from southeast Georgia through the Carolinas into Virginia through Monday afternoon.

"We've had over 50 reports of tornadoes over parts of the South and the Gulf Coast," Fox News senior meteorologist Janice Dean said on "Fox & Friends."

"The Storm Prediction Center said this is the area that's going to potentially see the damage, including tornadoes, long-lasting, catastrophic tornadoes and now we are getting reports of many deaths."

TORNADOES STRIKE MULTIPLE STATES AS SEVERE WEATHER OUTBREAK UNFOLDS ON EASTER IN SOUTH

Besides tornadoes, there were numerous reports of large hail, damaging winds and flash-flooding throughout the region.

Coronavirus-hit Mississippi, Louisiana, pounded by tornadoes, with at least 18 dead in the region
 
  • #955
At least 16 dead as tornadoes rip through the South

April 13, 2020

At least 16 people were killed after tornadoes began ripping through the South on Easter, destroying homes and storefronts and leaving over 1 million people without power from an intense storm system now headed towards the Mid-Atlantic.

Tornadoes and severe weather hit Central Texas early Sunday, bringing “gigantic” hail and damage, and then travelled east through Louisiana, Arkansas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, and the Carolinas.

In Mississippi, the state's emergency management agency said 11 people died in at least three different counties near the Louisiana border — Walthall, Lawrence and Jefferson Davis — from the weather.

Five more lost their lives in Murray County, Georgia, the fire chief Dewayne Bain told NBC News on Monday morning. The rural county, an hour outside Chattanooga, Tennessee, was hit hard, and four of the five who died were found in a local trailer park. The other fatality was brought to the emergency room before succumbing to injuries, and five more people were injured, Bain said. In Chattanooga, police deployed at least 26 teams of four to six officers to check on residents who requested emergency assistance after the storm.

The governors of Mississippi, Louisiana and Alabama each declared states of emergency to help recover from the damage caused by the storms.

Mississippi officials have not released more information on the deceased, but the Lawrence County Sheriff's Office announced late Sunday that one of its deputies, Robert Ainsworth, and his wife were among the dead.

At least 16 dead as dozens of tornadoes rip through the South
 
  • #956
Had a bit of a scare yesterday. Went for a morning bike ride alone and, long story short, wrecked my bike, flew over the handlebars, smashed my phone, and despite being bruised and bloody, was damn lucky I didn't break any bones. Have bad cuts on my thumb and leg and am really sore today (my shoulder hurts worse than anything today and that's not where any of my visible injuries were).

Long story short: my Easter was not what I expected but I feel very blessed that I didn't hurt myself worse and need to go to the ER. The last thing they need is me coming in there to take focus off other people and the last thing I need is having to go in there and get exposed. Perfect example of why staying at home is for everyone's benefit!
Oh no. Glad you're ok though. This is why they don't want people hiking up Snowdon and Ben Nevis as they could need resources to rescue them. perfect example why they are clamping down tightly. We are our own worst enemy really aren't we? I want to do some decorating but don't want to fall off a fricking ladder while this emergency is on. That's my excuse anyway peeps.
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How many confirmed cases are there in your area?

These graphs make me wonder if UK has "peaked".

Another 717 deaths today, just announced. The percentage is falling anyway.

Coronavirus: Spain loosens lockdown as new infections slow - BBC News

UK death toll reaches 11,329

The number of people who have died in the UK after being hospitalised and testing positive for coronavirus has now reached 11,329.

The government's department for health and social care said it is a rise of 717 from Easter Sunday's total.
 
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Five ways coronavirus is disrupting the food industry
1. Milk down the drain
This issue is not only being seen in the US, with dairy farmers in the UK asking for government help because of their own surplus problems. Peter Alvis, chair of the Royal Association of British Dairy Farmers, says about five million litres per week are at risk.

2. Crops go to waste
The New York Times, which interviewed some US producers, cited an example of one chicken processor having to smash 750,000 unhatched eggs every single week. They also spoke to an onion farmer who was having to let most of his harvest decompose, unable to re-distribute his onions in high enough qualities and without the facilities to store them.

3. Not enough workers
There has also been a 'Feed the Nation' campaign launched in the UK to encourage domestic workers to plug any labour gaps to avoid food waste.

4. Changing our shopping habits
The pandemic has led to some changes in what we are trying to buy. For example, the UK has seen demand for flour soar in recent weeks as people stuck at home increasingly turn to home-baking.

According to new data, cited by BFMTV, French shoppers have increasingly been buying more organic food since coronavirus fears took hold of the country.

5. Stock is sitting unused
Take UK pub closures for example. Much of the industry's current supply of lager and ale could now go to waste under government rules which mean they could be closed for the foreseeable future.

Some beers have a best-before date of just weeks - which means thousands of unused barrels in pub basements could be undrinkable by the time the lockdown is lifted.
'Up to 50m pints' going to waste in empty pubs


..But it's not bad news for everyone

Some parts of the food industry are benefiting from our changing consumption habits.

US sales of orange juice, which had been on a gradual decline, are said to be up 38% on last year's figures.

The so-called "futures" price of orange juice has soared in recent weeks. "The Covid-19 outbreaks are hitting both the supply and demand for orange juice," Stephen Innes, chief global market strategist at broker AxiCorp said last month.

"The immune-boosting properties are the demand-side attraction while there are simply not enough tanker spaces, with airlines not flying, to bring the product to markets."

The demand is good news for orange growers, especially in Florida and Brazil - who supply big brands like Tropicana.

 
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