Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #47

[Gardenista]

Gray Hughes has his brother (a doctor) discussing COVID live right now

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Quoting myself, but I highly recommend this video. Gray's brother is a rheumatologist who prescribes hydroxychloroquine all of the time, so he has lots of knowledge about its' use. Also lot's of info for those with autoimmune diseases.

I suggest that you just bookmark it and listen to it when it's over though, because Gray has it set up so you can't start from the beginning while it's live.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

I’m not sure how many have heard of this thing I speak of.
But first, I gotta show ya a funny.

Does Steam Ironing Kill Bacteria?​

Firstly, Bacteria and Viruses are two very different things. For example, antibiotics are effective at treating bacterial infections but do not work for viral infections.
Steam ironing effectively kills bacteria because the iron has to heat the water to 212 °F in order to generate steam, and most bacteria can’t survive at this high temperature. Studies show that washing and tumble drying alone does not eliminate all germs and that ironing plays an important role in sanitizing clothing.
Higher steam output improves your chances are of eliminating unwanted germs, bacteria, viruses, and bugs while you iron.

For steam to be created, water has to heat to a temperature of 212 °F (100 °C). This is the temperature at which most harmful germs, bacteria (including E. coli, Staph bacteria, Salmonella), mold, viruses, and even dust mites die. Washing and ironing are not guaranteed to kill all bacteria. Steam ironing will eliminate several kinds of harmful bacteria including E. coli, Staph bacteria, and Salmonella. (source).

We know that a clothing iron heats up steam to 212 °F which kills 99% of all germs and viruses, but the truth is, we simply do not know enough about COVID-19 yet to be entirely sure how it behaves.
Does Ironing Kill Bacteria & Viruses? (Incl. Coronavirus) | Ironing Lab


Marinov advised keeping the World Health Organization’s specifications in mind. “The temperature should be at least 60 degrees Celsius [140 degrees Fahrenheit]. We do not have studies on SARS-CoV-2, but the similar SARS-CoV-1 dies quickly at temperatures above 60,” he said.
You can also disinfect masks by ironing or putting them in an oven for 20 minutes at about 160 degrees Fahrenheit, Marinov said.
How To Clean A Fabric Coronavirus Face Mask And How Often

 

[Deleted member 158085]

If I remember right, ironing was one way to kill the virus.

Right, but this creates steam. I worry about the steam coming up in my face. I don't know how long it takes to kill it.

I just need a hazmat suit.

 

[PommyMommy]

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
CNN: More than 2,300 deaths from coronavirus have been reported in the United States today, the highest one-day death count since the outbreak began.
9:30 PM - 14 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
UN Secretary General calls the coronavirus outbreak "the most challenging crisis we have faced since the Second World War."
9:51 PM - 14 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
Louisiana has become the fourth state to reach 1,000 coronavirus deaths, following New York, New Jersey and Michigan.
9:59 PM - 14 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
Reported US coronavirus deaths via @CNN:
4 weeks ago: 111 deaths
3 weeks ago: 704 deaths
2 weeks ago: 3,834 deaths
1 week ago: 12,895 deaths Right now: 25,992 deaths
10:42 PM - 14 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
Reported US coronavirus cases:
5 weeks ago: 1,000 cases
4 weeks ago: 6,135 cases
3 weeks ago: 52,976 cases
2 weeks ago: 185,499 cases
1 week ago: 398,809 cases
Right now: 608,458 cases
10:43 PM - 14 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
Reported US coronavirus deaths:
Feb. 14: 0 deaths
Mar. 14: 58 deaths
Apr. 14: 25,992 deaths
10:44 PM - 14 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
Reported US coronavirus cases:
Feb. 14: 15 cases
Mar. 14: 2,826 cases
Apr. 14: 608,458 cases
10:46 PM - 14 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
Reported US coronavirus cases in April:
4/1: 212,692
4/2: 245,213
4/3: 277,953
4/4: 312,076
4/5: 337,620
4/6: 368,196
4/7: 398,809
4/8: 432,132
4/9: 465,750
4/10: 501,301
4/11: 529,887
4/12: 557,300
4/13: 582,594
Now: 608,458
10:47 PM - 14 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
Reported US coronavirus deaths in April:
4/1: 4,780
4/2: 5,983
4/3: 7,152
4/4: 8,488
4/5: 9,643
4/6: 10,908
4/7: 12,895
4/8: 14,817
4/9: 16,684
4/10: 18,758
4/11: 20,604
4/12: 22,079
4/13: 23,649
Now: 25,992
10:47 PM - 14 Apr 2020

Ryan Struyk on Twitter
Daily reported US coronavirus deaths in April:
4/1: 946
4/2: 846
4/3: 1,169
4/4: 1,344
4/5: 1,147
4/6: 1,343
4/7: 1,909
4/8: 1,922
4/9: 1,867
4/10: 2,074
4/11: 1,846
4/12: 1,475
4/13: 1,570
Now: 2,343
10:51 PM - 14 Apr 2020

 

[KALI]

Going to Costco tomorrow. First time in 2 months. I used to go weekly...
Anyway told two of my friends that I was going, wow... both said "great, we need to stock up". Eeck.
My vehicle is not that big, so, I'll do what makes sense.
Here in California, we've been told to hunker down until May 15th.
I do want to buy what I can in bulk, and try to make things, like Chili, Stews, etc. And freeze.
Fortunately, as a small restaurant owner. I keep a freezer in my garage. Our chef has learned to depend on me for supplies throughout these years, as she forgets to order.
I'm trying to time everything so that I get there before the tolite paper is gone...

 

[otto]

(This article may be of interest to you. I feel so sad for all students who are stuck in this pandemic.)

Universities begin considering canceling in-person classes until 2021 - CNN

(CNN)A number of universities are beginning to consider the possibility that in-person classes may not resume until 2021.

Boston University has already canceled all "in-person summer activities" on its primary campus. But the school's coronavirus recovery plan includes protocols should officials deem it not safe to return in-person for the fall semester, and says classes would continue to be held remotely through the fall semester.
...

I know that post-secondary classes are closed until September here. The conversation about transition to online learning started on January 20. When the transition was implemented on March 13, it was smooth except for zoombombing and user accounts being sold on the darkweb for less than a penny. That is still an issue with Eric Yuan recommending setting up 'new' zoom meetings (rather than using personal meeting room) with secure password.

If classes are still closed in September, which I think is a good idea given what we know about the more deadly second wave October 1918 (after the first wave March 1918), it's realistic to expect that schools should be closed until January 2021.

Hopefully, warily, students will return to school in January 2021. Countries that risk opening while the pandemic continues to kill thousands daily are facing closures to their borders for as long as it takes.

 

[KALI]

Question. Have you, or anyone you know received Any of the billions of dollars promised?
We know of nobody getting anything.
We're in California, maybe it's being released State by State?

 

[otto]

Right, but this creates steam. I worry about the steam coming up in my face. I don't know how long it takes to kill it.

I just need a hazmat suit.

Skip the iron - and if you use an iron, turn off the steam.

Wait it out. The virus dies without a host. My understanding is that the virus can live on many surfaces for up to 72 hours - 3 days - and then it's toast. Don't touch the fabric for 5 days to be sure.

 

[mickey2942]

Question. Have you, or anyone you know received Any of the billions of dollars promised?
We know of nobody getting anything.
We're in California, maybe it's being released State by State?

Nothing here. And my Mom has still not been able to get a dime from unemployment insurance in Nevada. It is so bad, there is actually a Facebook group for people who are frustrated by the whole mess.

Florida is another state that is a disaster for unemployment insurance benefits. And everyone at Disney, about 35,000 or more are going to be filing next week.
Disney World workers stage protest of Florida’s bogged down unemployment system

 

[pocketaccent]

Question. Have you, or anyone you know received Any of the billions of dollars promised?
We know of nobody getting anything.
We're in California, maybe it's being released State by State?

Nothing yet. None of my family members and friends received yet. In Southern California.

 

[LadyL]

N.Y.C. Death Toll Soars Past 10,000 in Revised Virus Count

N.Y.C. Death Toll Soars Past 10,000 in Revised Virus Count

 

[Auntie Cipation]

Question. Have you, or anyone you know received Any of the billions of dollars promised?
We know of nobody getting anything.
We're in California, maybe it's being released State by State?

There was a post on this thread this morning that gave a scale -- it was based on income. $0-10k annual income was getting their checks now. 10-20k income would be mailed May 1. $20-30k income would be mailed May 8th or so. And onward from there. To get up to the $100k+ income level will take until late summer or even the fall, it looked like.

I'll see if I can find the post. Offhand I don't know how authoritative the information was.

ETA: I was wrong, the long wait is apparently only for those who will be getting paper checks as opposed to electronic deposit. And if the treasury doesn't already have your direct deposit info but you want this money direct deposited, you can give them the info, so no one need wait that long if you don't want to.

Post I was thinking of:
Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #46

 

[Lilibet]

Question. Have you, or anyone you know received Any of the billions of dollars promised?
We know of nobody getting anything.
We're in California, maybe it's being released State by State?

It will get to you @KALI.

Here’s what this article says:

The money will appear automatically in your bank account if the IRS has your account information on file from previous years’ tax returns. If the IRS doesn’t already have your account information, or if you didn’t file taxes in 2018 or 2019, you can submit your information on this website.

When are stimulus checks being sent out? Here’s how to make sure you get yours

And this one:

The first checks were delivered via direct deposit on Friday and tens of millions will see them appear in their bank accounts by Wednesday, according to the Treasury Department.

Coronavirus stimulus checks: First payments going out from IRS

You can track your payment here.

Coronavirus stimulus checks: Taxpayers can now track payments

 

[KALI]

OMG! Me too! Especially the men whose hair is getting so long!
OT. I bought hair dye weeks ago. First time in umpteen years, I have done my own. It was a big mess, and time consuming, but, I'm happy with the results.
Small victories count.

I don't know about all of you but I'm kinda enjoying watching the newscasters' root lines growing like the rest of us

 

[10ofRods]

I recently saw family embracing through a clear plastic shower curtain - not sure if that’s completely safe but I understand how isolating this can be - I’m glad to be with immediate family since the beginning and they all stay home except for essential workers

Actually a sweet idea. I'm not sure what "perfect safety" means, as I was in classrooms with tons of students long after I knew this was pandemic. I live in an area with few cases, though - and if the shower curtain people also live in that kind of area, I think it's as safe as a lot of other things. I was commuting in L.A. traffic before this - not that safe.

I prefer to just wash my hands a lot - which reminds me, I need to mist my computer and phone again.

 

[LadyL]

N.B. nurse, 85, comes out of retirement to help care for seniors amid pandemic

N.B. nurse, 85, comes out of retirement to help care for seniors amid pandemic

 

[oviedo]

Actually a sweet idea. I'm not sure what "perfect safety" means, as I was in classrooms with tons of students long after I knew this was pandemic. I live in an area with few cases, though - and if the shower curtain people also live in that kind of area, I think it's as safe as a lot of other things. I was commuting in L.A. traffic before this - not that safe.

I prefer to just wash my hands a lot - which reminds me, I need to mist my computer and phone again.

I’ve always been a hand washer as well - I’ve been far away from extended family so co tent with FaceTime and texting but I have friends who are suffering because they miss their grandchildren who live so close but can’t visit

 

[otto]

Question. Have you, or anyone you know received Any of the billions of dollars promised?
We know of nobody getting anything.
We're in California, maybe it's being released State by State?

Is everyone in the country receiving a stimulus cheque of $1200 due to pandemic - a go out and spend idea?

People posted upthread that the money is in the bank, split families are still sorting who gets to it first.

 

[10ofRods]

I don't know what to say. This seems just beyond all reason. What is motivating these people to put themselves, and even a baby in harm's way?

All kinds of things. Inability to change and adapt. A belief that God will intervene specifically on their behalf. Lack of understanding about what a virus is and how it works (see the UK news for more on how widespread that is). Belief that it wouldn't be that bad if things just went back to normal.

Babies aren't getting this very often, or dying very often (there are only 1-2 in North America right?)

If we just allow everyone 50 and other to go about their business, I suppose that would meet the demands of these people.

I remember when there were "shut-ins" and my mom was part of a group at church that helped take care of them. Vaccinations pretty much took away most of the reason for that group. But, there will now be shut-ins (me, lots of you) if we take that route. I'm cool with it, I get it - but I also think that societies that allow people 50 and older to participate safely get lots of benefits from that participation. Lots of doctors with high levels of specialization (and specialized nurses too) are in that category. Lots of teachers in highly specialized subjects. It would be a loss - but the regular daily commerce could go on.

Longterm, we'd have a simpler, more retail-based economy. There are industries where most innovations are made by the young - they'd flourish. But science, healthcare, teaching would suffer. These people either thought that through and don't care or they didn't think it through.

 

[10ofRods]

I hope before anyone goes back to work, that there would be strong parameters in place in order to judge whether or not going back to work is safe.

At the moment, it seems like some countries are calling for a quick return to get the economy rolling again, but they are not basing the decision on any measurable factors ... availability of vaccine, level of testing, availability of snap testing, level of new cases, time since the last new cases, etc.

It also will make a difference if the country has publicly funded health care or not. If health care is costly to the nation, then there is a financial incentive for the government to keep the people healthy by delaying the return to work. If health care is not publicly funded, then the risks and costs of sickness rests with the individual. In that case, there is more interest in speeding up the return to business as usual. jmo

This sounds way too well thought-out, rational and practical for it to catch on.