Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #47

[TravelingBug]

Some have advocated ages 20-40's being the first to go back to work I think. How are other countries doing it?

While they may not be the ones predominantly dying from it, in San Diego County, for instance, the numbers being dx w/ Coronavirus in the 20's, 30's, 40's and 50's categories each ALL have higher numbers than those in their 60's, 70's, or 80's+.

In fact, in San Diego, it's those in their 30's w/ the highest number testing positive.

So although they may have a substantially higher non-death rate (thus far at least) if things aren't more under control when people start going back to work, etc., if the numbers continued as they have so far in SD County, it seems likely things could escalate quickly if it were still cycling heavily around the younger working age population.

total breakdown of cases here:

Local Situation

Death rates by age breakdown here show it's the 70's and 80's with the highest death rates despite lower numbers being dx:

https://www.sandiegocounty.gov/cont...demiology/COVID-19 Deaths by Demographics.pdf

 

[Gardenista]

Germany suffers second deadliest day in a row but Merkel eases lockdown

 

[PommyMommy]

Andrew Cuomo on Twitter
We are not out of the woods yet. Coronavirus is still a monumental public health crisis and we are losing New Yorkers every day to this virus. Each New Yorker lost to COVID is a heartbreaking loss.
12:47 PM - 15 Apr 2020

Andrew Cuomo on Twitter
The single best tool to begin to safely reopen society is large-scaling testing. The unvarnished truth is that we can’t yet test to scale. And we can't get either diagnostic or antibody testing to scale without federal support.
12:56 PM - 15 Apr 2020

Andrew Cuomo on Twitter
New York State will prioritize antibody testing for healthcare workers, first responders and essential workers.
12:59 PM - 15 Apr 2020

Andrew Cuomo on Twitter
The states cannot compete with each other for testing supplies. Private companies are telling us they don’t have the equipment or chemicals or lab space to scale the number of tests. We need the federal government to partner in this.
1:02 PM - 15 Apr 2020

Andrew Cuomo on Twitter
In addition to testing, we need to trace contacts. We need an ARMY of tracers. To build tracing capacity we need federal funding.
1:05 PM - 15 Apr 2020

Andrew Cuomo on Twitter
#BREAKING: I am issuing an Executive Order today that all people MUST wear a mask or face covering in public in situations where social distancing is not possible.
1:14 PM - 15 Apr 2020

Andrew Cuomo on Twitter
As we look ahead, we will operate under one principle: Do No Harm. The gradually phased reopening will be determined by (1) how essential an industry is and (2) what the infection risk is for each industry. The most essential and lowest risk industries will be opened first.
1:17 PM - 15 Apr 2020

Andrew Cuomo on Twitter
In our hour of need, other states stepped up to help us. We promised we would do the same. We will be sending 100 ventilators to Michigan and 50 ventilators to Maryland.
1:19 PM - 15 Apr 2020

Andrew Cuomo on Twitter
For example, if you are riding on public transit where it is impossible to maintain social distancing, or walking on a busy sidewalk, you must wear a face covering like a bandana or a mask.
1:27 PM - 15 Apr 2020

Andrew Cuomo on Twitter
I have faith in New Yorkers. We do what makes sense. And it makes sense to cover your face to protect others. I believe in us. #NewYorkTough
3:52 PM - 15 Apr 2020

CDC on Twitter
New #COVID19 data provide age, race and ethnicity of confirmed U.S. cases of COVID-19 as of April 14. Note that in many cases these factors were missing or not reported. See the data table:
Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

5:52 PM - 15 Apr 2020

We are partnering with the NYS Court System to provide pro bono legal assistance to help people with issues resulting from the #Coronavirus pandemic. We need more volunteers. Lawyers interested in volunteering can sign up here:
COVID-19 Pro Bono Network - New York State Bar Association
8:36 PM - 15 Apr 2020

BNO Newsroom on Twitter
Over the past 24 hours, the U.S. reported 30,144 new cases of coronavirus and 2,532 new deaths, raising total to 644,560 cases and 32,429 dead
Tracking coronavirus: U.S. data
11:38 PM - 15 Apr 2020

 

[Gardenista]

Northern Italy is rattled by a 4.5-magnitude earthquake near the heart of the coronavirus crisis

 

[Gardenista]

Spain sees another rise in coronavirus cases with 5,183 new infections | Daily Mail Online

 

[tresir2012]

Too bad they don't show cross tabs as to what tv news shows that 1\3 watch.

Are we even sure it came from a bat?

 

[katydid23]

Really useful info thanks. Spain and Italy really took the hit didn't they? However it was mainly Northern Italy which has cold winters and ski resorts so that puzzles me. Also, London UK has taken the brunt of deaths here in the UK as Madrid in Spain so I am also wondering if pollution had a hand also somewhere, not just temperatures.

I think it is the urban centers hardest hit because of the crowded living and working conditions. The mass transit systems are a big problem when dealing with contagious diseases.

In Los Angeles, we all drive or ride bikes. Not nearly as much mass transit as NYC. LA has much lower numbers of CV than NYC, and I think it is because of the subways in NYC, and the crowded lifestyle.

New Orleans got hit hard too, and I think it was partly because of the bad timing of the Mardi Gras celebrations right when the pandemic was hitting.

 

[oviedo]

Good morning to all from West Texas.... Announcement - For the first time since this Virus stuff started I was able to buy at my local HEB, a 1# bag of carrots and a 12 pack of some "off brand" of toilet paper. I gave Mrs.22 the carrots immediately. I am saving the package of toilet paper to give her as a 30th Wedding Anniversary present on our upcoming May 19th Anniversary occasion.......Yall stay safe today......Front yard work awaits me, but first a little more coffee......mr.romancetrophyhusbandcody22....moo

The TP is priceless - well done!

 

[tresir2012]

My son, who has been working g at home for 3 weeks, has been called back to working in the office, beginning Monday, the 20th of April. He was surprised because they had told him they could work from home until about the 27th, or the end of April.

But he got work email this morning, and they were very definite. He works at a naval base, but he is a civilian who works in IT.

He wasn't really 'working' at home the past 3 weeks because he works on equipment in the base and he couldn't really do that effectively from home. But the boss gave him and coworkers some training videos and testing to work on during this time. So he was essentially paid to get some training certificates in things he wanted to learn. That was a good thing.

But the company is not going to continue doing that. However, they did tell him their new plans.

He will work M/W/F on the first week, and Tues/Thu the next week. And half of his co-workers will do the opposite. So they were told they would have a lot more space to work, away from others.

And they will have a small private parking lot right outside their door, so they will not have to park in the larger lots and walk around crowds.

I forgot to ask if they were going to give them masks or not.

That sounds like a plan. What state or country is that. Great timeline BTW.

 

[katydid23]

That sounds like a plan. What state or country is that. Great timeline BTW.

Ventura County, just North of Los Angeles.

 

[tresir2012]

If you read that back to work plan from the administration it was leaked by the Washington Post, and supposedly originated by cdc and fda,....anyway I posted it earlier. The back to work plan starts with sending children back to school, or day care or summer camps, justified on getting the parents back to work. Then, IMO the overall gist of the plan is that there is an acceptable level of covid sickness/death, and it just depends on whether the local hospitals can handle it. If there are too many cases, they will mitigate until the level drops a bit until the hospitals can handle it again. Others may interpret the plan differently, but that's how I read it

The whole lockdown strategy is to slow the cases to a rate the health system can cope with in order to save lives. It has worked and now they have bed and/or ICU capacity, they will begin easing the restrictions. It will work as we are following countries like Spain and Italy who are two weeks approximately ahead of some of us. MOO.

 

[tresir2012]

California's Newsom announces $125M fund to give coronavirus stimulus checks to immigrants in state illegally

California's Newsom announces $125M fund to give coronavirus stimulus checks to immigrants in state illegally

This makes no sense to me....I admit that I do not know a lot about how illegal immigrants live (jobs or support from government) in California. But still does not sound right.
Couldn't that money be filtered into the small businesses that are hurting the worst?

How are they going to find them or their bank accounts to give them the money?

 

[tresir2012]

Were they rich? The cheapest one we could find was $30,000. I just ended up using our small home pasteurizer.

You can just heat it in a saucepan to the required temperature (70° is it ?).

 

[tresir2012]

Couldn't agree more, as well, a world-wide boycott of Chinese products to be put in place until something is done. (Wishful thinking).

That would mean boycotting N95 masks though.

 

[Ragnarok]

Here in Southern NY outside of NYC wife's grocery shopping went well. Only item unavailable on her list was OJ. Plentiful amounts of broad range of meats. Normal produce levels and variety except for small amount of potatoes. Limited selection and quantity of paper products. Saw no one without a mask. I'll go to the other store early tomorrow for OJ and probably some junk food.

 

[tresir2012]

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That's a decision for the family and how they handle it. If healthy young families want to quarantine their healthy young kids, I suppose that's up to them to decide. Meanwhile, the kids aren't at risk from going to school with other young people and the downside of cancelling school entirely is just tragic in so many ways, imo

The kids have already been with the family 24/7 during lockdown so won't be contagious as 14 days has gone by right? Can the kids get it a second time though?

 

[tresir2012]

Please post a link showing more than a couple of anecdotal cases of kids under 20 possibly dying from Corona.

We had a 13 yo kid with no underlying symptoms die of it in the UK. It is rare admittedly.

Matt Hancock mentioned it in yesterday's briefing and it was all over the news when it actually happened. It was one of the reasons he changed the "dying alone" protocol.

 

[CSIDreamer]

The whole lockdown strategy is to slow the cases to a rate the health system can cope with in order to save lives. It has worked and now they have bed and/or ICU capacity, they will begin easing the restrictions. It will work as we are following countries like Spain and Italy who are two weeks approximately ahead of some of us. MOO.

Yes. The whole point of the lockdowns are to slow it, not eliminate it. That isn't going to happen for awhile, maybe never. Jmo

 

[tresir2012]

Here is what I envision.

I go to see my Mom in her retirement community. They will have the 15 minute tests available for visitors, even if we have to pay a fee, to determine that I am not positive for the virus.

And then I am allowed to visit with her, as long as we stay quarantined in her apartment there.

I will shower and change into clean clothing in her place, and then I can give her a nice hug.

After a nice weekend visit I can return home, knowing I didn't bring her any danger.

What about just taking the temperature of the visitor? High temperature then you cannot visit that day. That is how they have been screening some health workers. Does that work?

 

[katydid23]

What about just taking the temperature of the visitor? High temperature then you cannot visit that day. That is how they have been screening some health workers. Does that work?

I don't think that works because someone can have the virus, but have no symptoms---have no fever or cough, etc.