Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #48

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Drumroll.... Captain Tom has just hit the £20million mark for the NHS (original target £1000) :)
He is going to end up raising more than Children in Need at this rate. Fantastic.
 
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I watched my father scrape the butter wrapper with a knife, sliding the knife sideways to ensure the foil didn't break and no butter was left behind, my mother fill the pantry with 2 years of food. We called it hoarding and frugality, but maybe it was learned behaviour from a time when that was necessary?
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definitely
my mom gardened, had a cold cellar for canning, reused plastic bags before it was fashionable etc.
all learned behaviours from the Great Depression
 
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I would save the Clorox wipes. You can clean canned good with hot water and soap.
Isopropyl alcohol, Lysol, Bleach, breathing in all those chemicals are really harmful to our health. Alcohol fumes give me headaches if I use too much. My body is telling me it is harmful. I stopped over-disinfecting grocery items.

I quarantine non-refrigerated items in a spare room, get what I need, seize whatever the container is holding, wash my hands with soap and water. I rarely disinfect individual quarantined items anymore.
 
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Copper has anti-germ properties.
"All of these laboratory studies have been translated into the healthcare environment. Studies worldwide have shown that, with routine cleaning, when copper alloy is used on regularly touched surfaces in busy wards and intensive care units, there is up to a 90% reduction in the numbers of live bacteria on their surfaces. This includes bed rails, chair arms, call buttons, over-bed tables, IV poles, taps and door handles."
Copper is great at killing superbugs – so why don't hospitals use it?

Informative article. Thanks for posting.
 
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Usually people talk about prison cells, not prison dorms. Never heard anybody referring to prisons as dorms.

Low security prisons have dorms. Our old women's jail had dorm-like conditions (and you can see the style that federal prisons have in the dorms shown on Orange Is the New Black on Netflix - those are actually nicer than the ones we used to use for women here).

Prisons vary in their style of accommodations. None of them look very nice to me. In the jail where I've worked most, they had individual cells and then a dorm-like common area where both the showers and the eating area were in the same room (and a guard sat at a console with monitors of all areas, above them - one guard could monitor two of these pods).

Concrete floors, and putty colored walls. The instant you stepped out of the jail area, there were nice tiled floors, and windows and potted plants. Then, the employee-gathering areas were so nicely appointed. The man who had those ideas felt strongly that the guards needed to have their break time in a very non-prison like environment, so that they wouldn't break down and start acting like prisoners themselves. This was a facility for people spending up to two years for fairly serious crimes (pleaded down to misdemeanors).

The dorm like prison in my area is a youth "prison."
 
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Never thought I would see the day where laundry and cleaning was sooo exciting just to break up the day.

One of the benefits of working from home, I have discovered. It's not like I am glued to my desk 8 hours straight, lol.
 
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We gave our faculty the option of which online resource they would to continue their spring classes. We notified our faculty on a Thursday while they were on spring break that we would go totally remote starting within one week. So faculty could use our university-based online learning tools or choose their own, we had to move over 4,000 class sections with over 1000 instructors online in less that one week. And some faculty chose Zoom as they were familiar with it. Our Instructional Technology department has been great at helping them move to other platforms, and we will be in better shape for our Summer Session online courses and in the fall, if need be, because of the lead time and experiences this spring semester.
That's my point - why have to do it in less than a week? Better to have more time and do it right.

My opinion only.
 
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Better safe than sorry!

ITA.
My husband just picked up our grocery order and I wiped everything down, Yesterday we got a produce order and I washed everything in the kitchen sink. I don't trust that advice.
 
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For those of you using masks when out/work. Take a flat bottomed Tupperware with lid and drill a few holes in lid. Remove your mask from ties/string without touching mask itself. Lay mask in container inside of mask up. Leave strings/ties on the outside of container. Snap lid on. Good way to store your mask if u have a lunch break, returning from grocery store in your car etc. Dump mask if washable in washer, disinfect container and wash your hands. If your simply taking it off to eat at work remove lid and grasp mask from ties/strings without touching mask itself.
 
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I'm right there with you. They are completely despicable. I consider what they have done as murder.

I cant even express how livid I am with China, and this includes WHO which fell for all their lies.

These honorable whistleblowers have probably been murdered. :(

I dont put anything past China, and what they are capable of doing including to their own people.

My heart breaks for all of countless good citizens of China who are also victims of this ruthless regime.

But no matter how much they deny or suppress the TRUTH the TRUTH will still become known for the world to see.

Imo, the truth of what happened, and what is still happening in China will come from the many honorable Chinese citizens who live there. More will be willing to risk their own lives to expose the truth.

There isn't enough sanctions on this earth to fairly punish China for what has happened to 180 countries, and the leadership's lies, and coverups.

Jmho
 
  • #414
I was too
until I went vegan - no more illnesses like that
YES. My daughter has an autoimmune disorder and was taking a very strong medication by shot form, to treat the illness. It affected her immune system so she always caught colds and flus, constantly.

She became a vegan 2 years ago and she rarely gets sick anymore. And she stopped taking the strong medication [Humera] because her autoimmune symptoms became much more under control without it.

It has been an education for me learn to cook for vegans. My daughter, her boyfriend, and my daughter-in-law and granddaughter---all vegans.

Thanksgiving Dinners are totally different these days. :)
 
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https://nypost.com/2020/04/16/dogs-might-be-able-to-sniff-out-the-coronavirus/

“It’s very early stages,” says James Logan, head of LSHTM’s Department of Disease Control.

“We know diseases have odors — including respiratory diseases such as influenza — and that those odors are in fact quite distinct. There is a very, very good chance that Covid-19 has a specific odor, and if it does I am really confident that the dogs would be able to learn that smell and detect it.”
Wow, that may be a game changer. Dogs can test us with immediate result.
 
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Yes, there are a lot of high-rise modern apartments here. And elevators are a problem, in my opinion.

That's what my daughter and her bf worry about. >>Using the elevator or the stairwells---you don't know if the person right before you, has the virus. I told them to use wipes when they push the buttons and to use masks when they ride the elevator.

They signed a year lease for this expensive new apartment building because of all the great perks it has. Gorgeous gym, nice pool, great game room, amazing business offices with printers and conference tables, etc...recording studio, which my daughter needs for her work....

But now they are stuck paying top dollar for all this things they cannot use anymore..I know there are worse problems but this is an expensive lesson for them....

i understand! There are so many sorrowful stories of death and illness, poverty and desperation in food lines...but there are other "expensive lessons" that will stay far under the radar. My daughter and her bf are living in NYC...having left their sweet little house in Philadelphia that had a back garden and a little front porch on a tree lined side street in a lovely neighborhood. They rented out their house for some "good jobs in NYC". Now their tenants in the Philly house are having a hard time paying the rent, while they are living in a seven story apartment building where they have to go up and down the elevator to walk their dog, while listening to police sirens 24 hours a day. The absolute suffering of so many is so painful, but the little burdens that people all over the country are facing is just so monumental too.
 
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Better safe than sorry!
My husband wipes everything in the garage. We don't even bring in the plastic bags for days. I completely wash all the produce.
 
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That's my point - why have to do it in less than a week? Better to have more time and do it right.

My opinion only.

Because of community spread, we had to get students out of the residence halls, as the virus spreads rapidly in congregant settings. And accreditation agencies and the federal and state governments require a certain amount of days for instruction each semester, so we could only cancel two days of classes and still move forward with having students complete the spring semester. There was no more time to do it right.
 
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