Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #50

[cody22]

Protest starts after Idaho woman arrested for 'trespassing' on closed playground


These protests seem to be growing......moo

 

[raysgirl1126]

Yeah, awful how journalists and whistleblowers are treated......

I couldn't agree more!!

 

[oviedo]

A particularly troubling finding in the AP investigation is that many of the highest beneficiaries not only shouldn’t have applied for the aid because of their size, but they weren’t victims of the coronavirus at all. For example, about a quarter of the 75 public companies identified in the report warned their investors about internal financial issues months before the coronavirus outbreak. Five of the eight companies receiving $10 million had been under government investigations in the past.

75 Public Companies Took COVID-19 Loans Meant for Small Businesses: Investigation

thank you - I hope this is seriously investigated.
JMO

 

[tresir2012]

No, I didn’t think anyone would apply it to the eyes. It’s usually about people not realizing how well they need to rinse it off their hands because we now know just how often we touch our face and eyes,

Truly, tresir, I was not trying to be argumentative. I just wanted to note for others that extreme care should be used with this product. I can guarantee you that if someone next posts about essential oils, I am going to pipe up to be sure they know how dangerous those are if you have cats.

I am just one of those very safety-minded people who cannot help but to tell others if I know about specific dangers of products. And because I actually use this, my doctors made me aware of those dangers.

No problem. I don't have cats, only dogs and equine. Just wanted to pass the details of this product or any similar onto the forum. Especially if other products are becoming scarce. I already had this and it must be years old but I would also be able to get it from my vet if it runs out in stores.

And TBH all cleaning products, especially bleach, are dangerous so it may be a good time to gen up on first aid procedures anyway. Having a small eye bath in the house is extremely useful I have found, just to flush out the eyes with water. With kids and more of us at home this is all useful info.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

Coronavirus: 'We are at the peak' of COVID-19 outbreak, Matt Hancock tells MPs

The UK is "at the peak" of the coronavirus outbreak, Health Secretary Matt Hancock has told MPs - on the same day the number of UK hospital deaths rose above 18,000.

Delivering an update on the government's COVID-19 response in the House of Commons on Wednesday, Mr Hancock thanked the British public for their "steadfast commitment" in following lockdown rules.

"It is making a difference, we are at the peak," he said.

But the health secretary added that social distancing measures would not be relaxed or changed until the government's five tests for exiting the lockdown are reached.

The Department of Health and Social Care later announced that, as of 5pm on Tuesday, 18,100 people had died in UK hospitals with coronavirus - a rise of 763 deaths reported in the last 24 hours.

Another 665 people had died in English hospitals after testing positive with COVID-19, bringing the total to 16,272.

In Scotland, another 77 hospital patients had died with coronavirus in the last 24 hours, bringing the total to 1,062.

 

[tresir2012]

These Are the Public Companies That Got Small Business Loans

I don't see any problem with any of this. They are loans after all.

 

[Herat]

I agree, they had to go through an approval process.

I have also read that major real estate developers received a very large amount of the funds.

 

[tresir2012]

No, I didn’t think anyone would apply it to the eyes. It’s usually about people not realizing how well they need to rinse it off their hands because we now know just how often we touch our face and eyes,

Truly, tresir, I was not trying to be argumentative. I just wanted to note for others that extreme care should be used with this product. I can guarantee you that if someone next posts about essential oils, I am going to pipe up to be sure they know how dangerous those are if you have cats.

I am just one of those very safety-minded people who cannot help but to tell others if I know about specific dangers of products. And because I actually use this, my doctors made me aware of those dangers.

It's probably to late for you to delete but could you remove the bit in my post about bleach ingredients? I got that wrong. I have edited and removed that sentence but then realised my post had gone thru twice and the original you quoted is still wrong.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

No problem. I don't have cats, only dogs and equine. Just wanted to pass the details of this product or any similar onto the forum. Especially if other products are becoming scarce. I already had this and it must be years old but I would also be able to get it from my vet if it runs out in stores.

And TBH all cleaning products, especially bleach, are dangerous so it may be a good time to gen up on first aid procedures anyway. Having a small eye bath in the house is extremely useful I have found, just to flush out the eyes with water. With kids and more of us at home this is all useful info.

Yes, and if you do have pets, sterile saline that comes in a squirt bottle is helpful for flushing and it’s also super convenient for us. I keep a bottle on each floor in case of eye injury. I’ve had to use it twice in the last few years - once for being an idiot and getting poison in my eye, and once for being an idiot and getting an embarrassing eye injury.

 

[tresir2012]

No, I didn’t think anyone would apply it to the eyes. It’s usually about people not realizing how well they need to rinse it off their hands because we now know just how often we touch our face and eyes,

Truly, tresir, I was not trying to be argumentative. I just wanted to note for others that extreme care should be used with this product. I can guarantee you that if someone next posts about essential oils, I am going to pipe up to be sure they know how dangerous those are if you have cats.

I am just one of those very safety-minded people who cannot help but to tell others if I know about specific dangers of products. And because I actually use this, my doctors made me aware of those dangers.

It's probably too late for you to delete but could you remove the bit in my post about bleach ingredients? I got that wrong. I have edited and removed that sentence but then realised my post had gone thru twice and the original you quoted is still wrong.

Dirt bikes now at California skate park that was covered up with sand to discourage use. Never underestimate the ingenuity of the American people...

California skate park filled with sand to enforce social distancing backfires as dirt bikers show up

Got a laugh at this. Similar happened at a BMX track that our council closed several years ago. Then the dirt bikes showed up to use it. My theory is the bmxers got their older brothers involved after they lost their track.

 

[CSIDreamer]

I don't see any problem with any of this. They are loans after all.

It's a small business loan is the problem. Ruth Chris is a crazy expensive steakhouse chain. Harvard speaks for itself. Jmo

 

[oviedo]

Here are the largest public companies taking payroll loans meant for small businesses
- it's really shameful behavior IMO
I added these to the CARES thread with the other links.

 

[Recidivist]

I don't see any problem with any of this. They are loans after all.

If you use 75 % of the loan for payroll, the loan is forgiven.

 

[tresir2012]

If you use 75 % of the loan for payroll, the loan is forgiven.

Even better. So the businesses aren't benefitting so much rather than the employees. UK is paying 80% of all furloughed employees wages so that is a similar benefit. Corporation and income tax will likely be increased next year to recoup it anyway.

 

[oviedo]

I don't see any problem with any of this. They are loans after all.

The problem I have is there were limits such as maximum number of employees, applying for 2 1/2 times of monthly payroll, etc. It appears to me, IMO, their bankers worked with them to sidestep the requirements and they gobbled up huge chunks of money first and then the smaller businesses who had to gather all the documents required tried to submit and they were shut down. A friend who owns a small business that had to shut completely (not essential) applied the first morning of the program and didn't get it - they were told the money was gone already. So something went on IMO

 

[Deleted member 158085]

It's probably to late for you to delete but could you remove the bit in my post about bleach ingredients? I got that wrong. I have edited and removed that sentence but then realised my post had gone thru twice and the original you quoted is still wrong.

By the time I figured out what you were talking about my post was 59 minutes old. Shocking, but I managed to edit just before the 60 minute cut-off.

 

[tresir2012]

Here are the largest public companies taking payroll loans meant for small businesses
- it's really shameful behavior IMO
I added these to the CARES thread with the other links.

I looked at one of the largest on that list (a $15 million loan) and this is the restaurant chain J.Alexanders. Most of their restaurants are now doing take outs only, which the majority on here want to support but you don't support them having a loan to continue, which I find strange.

Locations - J. Alexander's Holdings

 

[tresir2012]

By the time I figured out what you were talking about my post was 59 minutes old. Shocking, but I managed to edit just before the 60 minute cut-off.

Ha ha. TY.

 

[tresir2012]

It's a small business loan is the problem. Ruth Chris is a crazy expensive steakhouse chain. Harvard speaks for itself. Jmo

$15 million is certainly not a small business loan so weren't there limits?

Eg. UK small business grant's have been given £10k so far but that is in addition to the 80% towards payroll costs - none of it is repayable - not till the next budget anyway

 

[mickey2942]

LOL!! I've been taking one for the team too at least once a week. I thought it was "Take Out Wednesday" so I will be sacrificing some of my government money and ordering in Chinese for supper today. I'm just doing my part, stimulating the economy you know.

Yep. We have to help our local economy. That has been my plan.