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  • #581
Cats are wearing coronavirus masks in China

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Cat in 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic in mask.

ETA and a dog, too at this link During the 1918 Flu Epidemic, Pet Parents Put Masks on Their Cats

Oh, and it’s true. https://www.truthorfiction.com/spanish-flu-1918-family-portrait-shows-cat-with-face-mask/
 

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  • #582
Many small businesses say government loan won’t enable them to rehire

Some small businesses that obtained a highly-coveted government loan say they won’t be able to use it to bring all their laid-off workers back, even though that is what the program was designed to do.
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To get the loans forgiven, companies need to spend 75% on payroll within eight weeks of receiving the money. The other 25% can be spent on rent, utilities, and mortgage payments. Otherwise, the loan has generous terms: Only a 1% interest rate and six months before any principal is due.

Many of the small companies that were able to obtain a loan are having second thoughts about rehiring all their workers and a few plan to return the money. Others will use what they can on rent and utilities, and will use some to rehire a portion of their laid-off staff. But most are unsure they will be able to reopen eight weeks from now. They see little point in rehiring all their workers, paying them to do little or nothing, and then potentially laying them off again if business remains weak two months from now.
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“You’re turning the business into a pass through for the federal government,” said Joe Walsh, who owns Clean Green Maine, a cleaning service in Portland, Maine with 35 employees. “You’re doing very little to actually help the business.”
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Walsh, who received a $280,000 loan from the SBA, said that he is reluctant to push his employees to return to work because, under unemployment benefit rules, they could lose their weekly checks if they turn down potential jobs.

“That’s just putting me as the employer in a really difficult position,” Walsh said. He pays at least $17 an hour, with benefits, but his former employees are getting the equivalent of roughly $25 an hour from unemployment.

Right now, Walsh’s business is closed due to lack of demand for cleaning services. He hopes to reopen soon and bring back some workers, retrain them on new sanitizing processes, and earn a bit of revenue. Still, he doubts his business will be anywhere close to what it was anytime soon, which means his workforce won’t be either.

“There’s no way that I’m getting to 100% employment by the end of 8 weeks,” he said.
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  • #583
All of a sudden there's news articles and tv shows trying to give me advice on how to wash my clothes. It's kind of late for that! Last month I was worried about that and I figured it out myself when I went to my building's laundry room.

Wipe down all appliances first including the drum or tub and the knobs. You'd be surprised at the little nooks that need disinfecting first. Then, wash in hot water if you can. Drying hot is the key for those using a laundry room, IMO. I've never had nor do I want bed bugs ever. If you're worried about shrinkage, you can pull out clothes mid cycle. I wash some clothes by hand, too. Yes... Lucky You if you have your own washer/dryer.
 
  • #584
San Francisco expands Covid-19 testing to all essential workers

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"We want to ensure all frontline and essential employees that leave their homes every day to serve our residents have a fast, easy, and accessible option for testing,” Breed said. “We also want those who don’t have insurance, or who lack access to health care or access to basic services to know they can be tested through CityTestSF and receive the support and health care they need."
Breed also announced approximately $10.5 million is being allocated to a response and recovery fund to support vulnerable San Franciscans and small businesses during the pandemic.

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Houston residents are now required to wear face coverings to contain Covid-19 outbreak

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“I’m signing an order requiring folks who absolutely have to go out in public to wear a face covering,” she said wearing a face mask at news conference with Houston’s Mayor Sylvester Turner. “We have to use every tool in the toolbox."
The order will go into effect April 27 and will last for 30 days, said Hidalgo who emphasized that this new measure is “not a substitute for social distancing.”

Turner will announce a plan tomorrow to distribute 70,000 face coverings "to vulnerable communities," the mayor's office tweeted today.

Gaming Control Board issues guidelines for reopening of establishments in Nevada

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Establishments must send a reopening plan to the audit and enforcement divisions at least seven days before reopening, or as soon as possible, the memo said.

The board also listed 18 procedures that licensees should follow and have in place when reopening including that the establishment must comply with all prescribed local, state and federal Covid-19 heath requirements.

Montana's stay-at-home order will be lifted Sunday

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His phase one measures outlined in a statement include giving local school districts the option to return to in-classroom learning beginning May 7.

Places of worship can become operational on April 26 in a manner consistent with social distancing between people who are not members of the same household.

Main street and retail businesses can become operational on or after April 27 if they can adhere to requirements to limit capacity and maintain strict physical distancing. Employers are directed to develop policies to keep employees and customers safe including teleworking when possible, enforcing social distancing protocols, and other measures.

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Mississippi governor says shelter-in-place order not likely to be extended

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Reeves suggested he might narrow the directive to apply only to the state’s high-risk population, such as the elderly and those with preexisting conditions.

He said steps to fully reopen the state’s economy might take weeks, and could happen incrementally by region or county. He promised the process would be cautious and gradual.

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Colorado governor says 150,000 coronavirus tests will arrive by end of the week from South Korea

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The state is partnering with Colorado State University to expand testing at skilled nursing facilities, including asymptomatic workers. Officials are also working to deploy “hundreds of thousands of antibody tests,” Polis said.

“No amount of testing is enough to reopen the state. If that's all you're doing ... (but) testing will absolutely be a part of going back to work," he said.
Polis said he will relax the stay-at-home order due to expire on April 26, and Colorado will move to a “safer-at-home” phase starting on April 27.

Trump says it is "too soon" for Georgia to reopen its economy

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"I told the governor of Georgia Brian Kemp that I disagree strongly with his decision to open certain facilities, which are in violation of the phase one guidelines for the incredible people of Georgia," Trump said during his coronavirus task force briefing this afternoon. "But at the same time, he must do what he thinks is right. I want him to do what he thinks is right, but I disagree with him on what he's doing, but I want to let the governors do — now, if I see something totally egregious, totally out of line, I'll do [something]. But I think spas and beauty salons and tattoo parlors and barber shops in phase one, we're going to have phase two very soon. It's just too soon. I think it's too soon."

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Arkansas governor says elective surgeries will be allowed starting April 27

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On April 27, elective surgeries will be allowed in clinics and hospitals, but they have to be simple procedures that don’t require an overnight stay. The patient has to have been tested for exposure to COVID-19 before the procedure and must not have any underlying health conditions.

Here's a timeline of the reopenings:
  • Restaurants will open on April 29
  • Gyms and workout facilities on April 30
  • Beauty salons and barbers on May 1
  • Places of worship and larger venues on May 4
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Trump says he signed immigration executive order before briefing

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The order is expected to temporarily halt the issuance of new green cards and work visas — steps that had already effectively been in place amid the coronavirus pandemic.

"In order to protect our great American workers, I've just signed an executive order temporarily suspending immigration into the United States. This will ensure that unemployed Americans of all backgrounds will be first in line for jobs as our economy reopens. Crucially, it will also preserve our health care resources for American patients," he said.

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Oklahoma governor says "personal care businesses" can open on Friday

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Starting on Friday, Stitt said "personal care businesses" can reopen for appointments "only if they adhere to strict sanitation protocols" and are in communities that do not have more restrictions in place. Those businesses include hair and nail salons, barbershops, spas, and pet groomers.

Stitt said restaurants, dining rooms, movie theaters, sporting venues and gyms can open on May 1 if they maintain "strict social distancing and sanitation protocols."

He also said that places of worship can reopen for in-person meetings or worship on May 1 but noted that staff and volunteers will need to wear masks when interacting with the public.

Bars, however, will remain closed

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US coronavirus update: Latest on cases, deaths and reopening the country - CNN
 
  • #585
I am going to get our pharmacist's opinion of that hydrocloroquine, the next time I talk to him. I go over his supplies with him, and talk to him once in a while. If he tells me it is a quack drug, I will let you know. I tell the truth! :)
 
  • #586
I'm sorry, but this is impossible. As I've mentioned before, the first group of humans is usually the lab workers and scientists themselves. Are they representative of All Humans? No. Not at all. None of them are toddlers. None of them are very elderly. None of them are cancer patients. None of them are taking immune suppressants (you can't work in a viral lab if you have those issues - or if you have lupus or if you have RA). They are disproportionately male (if not all male - in many cases, first run of viral testing is in men).

Further, how long has it been? Did they then go expose themselves to several variants of COVid? No, they did not. They can't, because they have only limited strains in Britain. Being an island, that's always the case. They need to test it in New York.

No one should be injected with a vaccine that has that kind of testing. The next rounds of testing should involve the entire British military. Then it's a waiting game. We know that military members have been exposed but they would need to completely drop social distancing and see if the vaccine works. Has Britain done this? No. It's two weeks between exposure and symptoms. They need to vaccinate the entire military (and they do not have the manufacturing capacity to do this yet), and then wait a month. Deliberately allow CV+ people to remain untreated and within the population.

At that point, we still won't know how the elderly and the compromised will deal with it, but the results will be highly suggestive. Before the US will allow it, they'll give the vaccine to all military members first (for strategic as well as medical reasons) and deploy them as usual all over the world, and make no attempt to isolate them. Let them have shore leave. Let's hope that the vaccinated can't still be carriers, right? Do we know that right now? No, we do not.

I'd give that process 6 months. People who specialize in safe development of vaccines would be cringing (as they'd have done it differently) but the FDA and our government do allow for this kind of testing.

But no way would I want our entire military vaccinated until UK does theirs first and we see results. I'd want a two month experiment in Britain. They're obviously going to start giving it to all comers unless some major change comes in their thinking. If, in two months, UK is down to virtually zero cases, then I think we should test in the US. Let them be the guinea pigs, as they seem intent on doing it.

I do wonder how many Brits will actually go for the vaccine under these circumstances. It will be a leap of faith with a dose of science.


I personally would trust that the highly experienced teams at Oxford's Jenner Institute and Imperial College London know how to run a clinical vaccine trial. I don't know if Oxford have done animal testing but Imperial have been testing their candidate in animals since early February How close are we to a coronavirus vaccine - and when will trials begin?
Also, it is a matter for debate whether animal testing is necessary or not in these urgent circumstances The US is fast-tracking a coronavirus vaccine, but bypassing safety standards may not be worth the cost USA biotech company Moderna appears to have been authorized by the FDA to fast track as I believe is happening with therapies as well because of Covid-19's pandemic status. This trial is also commencing with healthy volunteers. This makes sense to me. Even if only healthy people could be vaccinated initially this could help to break the chain of infection reaching to the vulnerable.
There are many vaccine trials underway. Scientists are used to co-operating internationally for humanitarian reasons (although they are still very competitive!). Let's hope the politicians can do the same British scientist to head UN task force distributing Covid-19 vaccine as US blocks G20 agreement. USA blocks G20 agreement. I happen to think both China and the WHO have questions to answer and should be held accountable. I am not sure why the US is blocking this, maybe we will get clarity soon.
 
  • #587
I am going to get our pharmacist's opinion of that hydrocloroquine, the next time I talk to him. I go over his supplies with him, and talk to him once in a while. If he tells me it is a quack drug, I will let you know. I tell the truth! :)
It’s not a quack drug for conditions it’s known to help with, like lupus and RA. It changed my life. I was crawling up the stairs at night for bed and using a mechanic’s rolling cart to move around downstairs. Then the plaquenil kicked in and no more crawling. No more crying from the pain and misery.

That said, no one knows for sure yet if it can help with this disease.
 
  • #588
  • #589
Fauci says the US must "carefully consider how we get back to normal"

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"So what has happened is that the mitigation that we put in with the first 15 days and then the 30-day mitigation program of physical distancing worked. So it got us to where we are today. It is a successful formula. It is the basis for our being able to say that we can now think seriously about reopening America," Fauci said at the White House's coronavirus task force briefing today.

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"I plead with the American public, with the governors, with the mayors for the people with the responsibility, although I know one has the lead to leapfrog over things, don't do that. Do it in a measured way. This is a successful formula. The problem is if we don't do that, there is a likelihood that we'll have a rebound. And the one way not to reopen the economy is to have a rebound that we can't take care of," he said.

Trump tasks council to assist minority communities affected by coronavirus

President Trump said Wednesday that he would be tasking an existing White House council, led by Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson, with determining how to assist minority communities impacted by coronavirus.

“I’m directing the White House Opportunity and Revitalization Council led by Sec. Ben Carson to focus its effort on supporting underserved communities impacted by the coronavirus,” Trump said during a press briefing at the White House.

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Casino workers union calls Las Vegas mayor's push to reopen "outrageous"

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“The mayor’s statements are outrageous considering essential frontline workers have been dealing with the consequences of this crisis firsthand," Geoconda Argüello-Kline, who is with the Culinary Workers Union Local 226, said in a written statement.

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The Culinary Union says it supports Gov. Steve Sisolak’s decision to keep casinos closed, adding, “The Culinary Union is majority women and people of color, and we are not expendable.”

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The Nevada Gaming Control Board says it is not yet safe for the state’s casinos to reopen.

“According to Governor Sisolak’s medical advisory team, the data related to the spread of COVID-19 does not support the reopening of gaming establishments in Nevada at this time,” the board says in a written statement.

Georgia governor says state will continue with business reopenings

Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp responded on Twitter to President Trump's comments that he disagreed “strongly” with the decision to reopen some businesses in the state.

"Just like the thousands of businesses currently operating throughout Georgia, I am confident that business owners who decide to reopen will adhere to Minimum Basic Operations, which prioritize the health and well-being of employees and customers," Kemp tweeted.

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7 additional big cats at the Bronx Zoo test positive for coronavirus

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That makes a total of eight big cats who contracted coronavirus at the famed zoo in New York City.

Some context: Three tigers and three African lions exhibited symptoms in early April when the zoo announced a 4-year-old Malayan tiger, named Nadia, tested positive for the virus. Testing on these six cats now confirm they have Covid-19. One more tiger also tested positive despite showing no symptoms.

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Pennsylvania will reopen in three phases starting May 8

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The governor's office broke down the phases into three colors: red, yellow and green:
  • The red phase, which currently applies to the whole state, has the sole purpose of minimizing the spread of Covid-19 through strict social distancing, non-life sustaining business and school closures, and building safety protocols.
  • As regions or counties move into the yellow phase, some restrictions on work and social interaction will ease while others, such as closures of schools, gyms, and other indoor recreation centers, as well as limitations around large gatherings, remain in place. The purpose of this phase is to begin to power back up the economy while keeping a close eye on the public health data to ensure the spread of disease remains contained to the greatest extent possible.
  • The green phase eases most restrictions by lifting the stay-at-home and business closure orders to allow the economy to strategically reopen while continuing to prioritize public health. While this phase will facilitate a return to a “new normal,” it will be equally important to continue to monitor public health indicators and adjust orders and restrictions as necessary to ensure the spread of disease remains at a minimum.
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US coronavirus update: Latest on cases, deaths and reopening the country - CNN
 
  • #590
It’s not a quack drug for conditions it’s known to help with, like lupus and RA. It changed my life. I was crawling up the stairs at night for bed and using a mechanic’s rolling cart to move around downstairs. Then the plaquenil kicked in and no more crawling. No more crying from the pain and misery.

That said, no one knows for sure yet if it can help with this disease.

That's good. I want it to be successful. We probably have pharmacists on this Website, who have a good idea about this drug.
 
  • #591

Fascinating! I enjoyed the humorous bits in your first link above, such as the photo caption saying "This unknown family from Dublin, California, probably risked life and limb to mask their cat." So true! I don't think any cat of mine would have ever tolerated being masked for more than a couple of seconds.
 
  • #592
Thank you from a Mom and Pop restaurant, that has owned 4 locations over 30 years in So. California.
All paid for cash with hard earned money.
No investors, no bank loans.
About a gift from God, would have been the $10,000. Forgivable Bond.
We applied immediately. No response, no money and neither of us have got the $1,200.00.
We have got zip.
Currently, we owe our landlord, the IRS, sales tax, and vendors.
It's a cascading wave.
I really care about our vendors.
With that said, I have no idea what we will do.
The lack of help is soul crushing.
Edited to add.
I have never hated politicians more then I do right now.
MOO.




The main concern is that the federal program was intended for *small* business owners who do not have access to other forms of capital infusions. Larger, profitable companies have many options and opportunities for investment capital and this program was meant to help many in small increments as opposed to shake shack and ruth chris taking large chunks of it. I hope public pressure is applied as it was to shake shack and that the funding is returned and re-allocated as intended.
 
  • #593
Even though I work in the medical profession, I do not know much about specific drugs.

I took the hydrocloroquine as more of a "shot in the dark" for people at the end of the line, where you could afford to take a risk. If it works great, if not, well it was a shot in the dark. These people cannot wait 3 years for all the tests. They have 3 days left, not years, so take a shot. If you are going to die any way, what do you have to lose? That is who they were talking about.

True, I just think the patients in the VA study were dying from the virus, not that the drug killed them. It was sort of a last ditch effort that didn't help because it was already too late.

However, it's when you receive the drug that matters, IMO. It was stated that hydroxychloroquine works best in the early stages to stop the virus from dividing and multiplying so quickly. I'm not sure what good it can do if you already need a ventilator. I'm not sure the VA drug trial differentiated the stages of the virus patients enough.

I'm not in the medical field, so I will include the link to the VA study here.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.16.20065920v1.full.pdf

It did surprise me that the dosages weren't that much, certainly not what I'd think would kill a patient. I do know somebody on here said the drug did help their aunt, uncle, and cousin survive the virus.

Anyways, I'm sorry, I'm even discussing this drug again. It's probably because I happen to take the drug, and it stopped the inflammation in my body in an amazing way.
 
  • #594
It’s not a quack drug for conditions it’s known to help with, like lupus and RA. It changed my life. I was crawling up the stairs at night for bed and using a mechanic’s rolling cart to move around downstairs. Then the plaquenil kicked in and no more crawling. No more crying from the pain and misery.

That said, no one knows for sure yet if it can help with this disease.

Me too! Plaquenil made an enormous difference in my life. It still helps me everyday.
 
  • #595
True, I just think the patients in the VA study were dying from the virus, not that the drug killed them. It was sort of a last ditch effort that didn't help because it was already too late.

However, it's when you receive the drug that matters, IMO. It was stated that hydroxychloroquine works best in the early stages to stop the virus from dividing and multiplying so quickly. I'm not sure what good it can do if you already need a ventilator. I'm not sure the VA drug trial differentiated the stages of the virus patients enough.

I'm not in the medical field, so I will include the link to the VA study here.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.16.20065920v1.full.pdf

It did surprise me that the dosages weren't that much, certainly not what I'd think would kill a patient. I do know somebody on here said the drug did help their aunt, uncle, and cousin survive the virus.

Anyways, I'm sorry, I'm even discussing this drug again. It's probably because I happen to take the drug, and it stopped the inflammation in my body in an amazing way.
Yeah, it would be great if we could try some of the potential meds before we are past the point of no return.

It will be a great day when
1- we can immediately get tested when showing any symptoms.
2- immediately get treated instead of being told to stay at home until it’s so bad you can barely breathe and it’s probably too late anyhow.
 
  • #596
CDC director clarifies comments about the second wave of coronavirus in the US

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Speaking at the White House on Wednesday, Redfield said that the second wave "could be more difficult, more complicated" and not "worse."

"When I commented yesterday that there was a possibility of the fall/winter -- next fall and winter it could be more difficult, more complicated," Redfield said. "When we had two respiratory illnesses circulating at the same time, influenza and the coronavirus, but I think it's really important to emphasize what I didn't say. I didn't say this was going to be worse. I said it was going to be more more difficult and potentially complicated because we'll have flu and coronavirus circulating at the same time. I want to emphasize we continue to build the nation's public health infrastructure to ensure that we have the capacity to stay in the containment mode."

Social distancing measures to remain until there's a vaccine or treatment, says English medical expert

The UK will have to rely on social distancing measures until there is a vaccine or a treatment for coronavirus, England's Chief Medical Officer Chris Whitty said during the daily Downing Street briefing on Wednesday.

“In the long run, the exit from this is going to be one of two things, ideally. One of which is highly effective vaccine, and there are a variety of ways vaccines can be deployed. They can be deployed for dampening down epidemics, they can be deployed to protect vulnerable people. Or, and or, highly effective drugs so that people stop dying of this disease even if they catch it, which can prevent this disease in vulnerable people," Whitty said.

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A large-scale UK study will track the spread of coronavirus and try to gauge immunity levels

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Up to 300,000 people in the UK will take part in a major long-term study to track the spread of coronavirus in the population, and understand the levels of immunity, the British government announced in a statement on Wednesday.

The study will examine how many people are infected in the UK, and how many have developed antibodies to the virus, the statement says.

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“This survey will help to track the current extent of transmission and infection in the UK, while also answering crucial questions about immunity as we continue to build up our understanding of this new virus," UK health minister Matt Hancock said in the statement.

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In total, 25,000 people will take part in the pilot phase of the survey, with plans to extend it to up to around 300,000 over the next 12 months. the government said.

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150,000 tests from South Korea will arrive in Colorado by end of the week

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The state is partnering with Colorado State University to expand testing at skilled nursing facilities, including asymptomatic workers, and work is going on to deploy "hundreds of thousands of antibody tests," Polis said.

"No amount of testing is enough to reopen the state. If that's all you're doing," Polis said, but "testing will absolutely be a part of going back to work."

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Spain extends state of emergency until May 9, prolonging lockdown to 8 weeks

The Spanish parliament voted to approve the extension of the state of emergency for the third time until May 9, prolonging the country’s stay-at-home order to eight weeks in total.

The state of emergency was first decreed on March 14, which ordered severe restrictions on movement and business.

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Most Covid-19 patients lost taste or smell, survey finds

Loss of taste or smell does indeed seem to be a symptom of Covid-19 infection, researchers reported Wednesday.

A survey of more than 200 patients in Italy found that 67% reported an altered sense of taste or smell either right before or right after they tested positive for Covid-19.

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“Other frequent symptoms were fatigue (68.3%), dry or productive cough (60.4%), and fever (55.5%),” the team wrote.

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China reports 10 new coronavirus cases

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Among the new cases, six were imported from abroad and four were locally-transmitted.

No new Covid-19 related fatalities were reported Wednesday, leaving China's death toll unchanged at 4,632.

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Nearly all Covid-19 patients put on ventilators in New York’s largest health system died, study finds

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It found that, overall, about 20% of Covid-19 patients treated at Northwell Health died, and 88% of those placed on ventilators died. A ventilator is a device that forces air into the lungs of patients who cannot breathe on their own because of severe pneumonia or acute respiratory distress syndrome.

Other, smaller reports have indicated that patients who need ventilation are unlikely to survive.

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The team looked at the electronic health records of 5,700 patients with coronavirus disease hospitalized at Northwell Health. Final outcomes were known for 2,634 of them.

The records support what doctors have been saying about the coronavirus: most people who become severely ill have some sort of so-called underlying condition. More than half, or 57%, had high blood pressure, 41% were obese and 34% had diabetes.

“Of the patients who died, those with diabetes were more likely to have received invasive mechanical ventilation or care in the ICU compared with those who did not have diabetes,” the researchers wrote.

They also confirmed that men were more likely to die than women, and no one under the age of 18 died.

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Coronavirus pandemic: Updates from around the world - CNN
 
  • #597
Me too! Plaquenil made an enormous difference in my life. It still helps me everyday.
Full disclosure, since its safety is being questioned on this board - I did have to go off it recently because after a few years I may have experienced one of the rare side effects of muscle wasting and weakening. Only time will tell if I can take it again.
 
  • #598
Thank you from a Mom and Pop restaurant, that has owned 4 locations over 30 years in So. California.
All paid for cash with hard earned money.
No investors, no bank loans.
About a gift from God, would have been the $10,000. Forgivable Bond.
We applied immediately. No response, no money and neither of us have got the $1,200.00.
We have got zip.
Currently, we owe our landlord, the IRS, sales tax, and vendors.
It's a cascading wave.
I really care about our vendors.
With that said, I have no idea what we will do.
The lack of help is soul crushing.
Edited to add.
I have never hated politicians more then I do right now.
MOO.
I’m so sorry to read of your terrible & unfair situation!
 
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  • #599
Yeah, it would be great if we could try some of the potential meds before we are past the point of no return.

It will be a great day when
1- we can immediately get tested when showing any symptoms.
2- immediately get treated instead of being told to stay at home until it’s so bad you can barely breathe and it’s probably too late anyhow.

You know how they shorted me on my Plaquenil refill last time? I didn't mind the one time being shorted, only getting 14 pills instead of 100, but they wouldn't mail them like usual. They made me go to the hospital pharmacy to pick up my Rx then told me I could come back in 14 days. I'm compromised, and they are exposing me extra by making me pick up the Rx. That's what I resent. They should know better and mail them with a letter of apology for the shortage.
 
  • #600
You know how they shorted me on my Plaquenil refill last time? I didn't mind the one time being shorted, only getting 14 pills instead of 100, but they wouldn't mail them like usual. They made me go to the hospital pharmacy to pick up my Rx then told me I could come back in 14 days. I'm compromised, and they are exposing me extra by making me pick up the Rx. That's what I resent. They should know better and mail them with a letter of apology for the shortage.
Holy cow. Yes, they should.
 
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