Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #50

[katydid23]

Rsbm:


“Jay-Natalie loved "loved music and enjoyed hearing it during bath time and car rides. She loved to be sung to, enjoyed watching bright colors, hearing mommy and daddy's voice, being kissed and hugged and most of all being rocked to sleep. She despised tummy time, but found comfort in her rattle," La Santa wrote.

"We call her the Warrior Princess because she fought Covid-19 like nobody's business!!!! Her fight inspired all of the nurses, doctors and staff members that knew her," La Santa continued. "Her purpose was served and she was called home on 4/20/2020. We thought we were having a baby, but had an angel instead."“

That^^^ is so heartbreaking....

 

[tresir2012]

It's long been said that transmission may be reduced during Summer months, and that a second wave will come in Sept/Oct.

So let us out of lockdown for the summer and we will go back in October.

UK has just reported retail figures. Surprise, surprise worse for 30 years except supermarkets up. Will find link.


ETA

UK retail sales plunge at record rate as lockdown hits

UK retail sales fell a record 5.1% in March as many stores shut up shop in the face of the coronavirus lockdown.

The figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show the steepest sales fall since it started collecting the data in 1996.

Food and online shopping rose, and alcohol sales jumped by 31%. But clothes sales tumbled by 34%.

Online shopping as a proportion of all retail reached a record high of 22%, the ONS said.

"Retailers are in crisis mode as the impact of Covid-19 has obliterated sales to new record-lows," said Richard Lim, chief executive of Retail Economics.

The data comes amid dire estimates for the performance of the UK economy amid the lockdown.

Yesterday, one of the Bank of England's top policymakers warned that the UK faces its worst economic shock in several hundred years.

'Responsible retailers'
Jan Vlieghe, a member of the BoE's interest-rate setting committee, said that "early indicators" suggest the UK was "experiencing an economic contraction that is faster and deeper than anything we have seen in the past century, or possibly several centuries".

He did, though, say there was "in principle" a good chance that the UK would return to its "pre-virus trajectory once the pandemic is over".

But for many shops, it is too late. In the year to date, Oasis, Warehouse, Debenhams, Laura Ashley and Cath Kidston have collapsed, and while some shops will be salvaged, many will be gone for good.

Excluding fuel, sales dropped 3.7% compared with February, a record for retail data collection going back to 1988.

Food sales rose a record 11% as households stocked up and restaurants closed.

 

[Curious Me]

Since you first had it back on Jan 25th, it seems unlikely it is associated with CV. It is slightly possible, but not likely, IMO.

I agree that getting it in sunlight and relaxing behind it, is a goos step to take. JMO

I tend to believe the virus was around on the West Coast earlier than we initially thought. I hope it wasn't the first sign of Covid on 1/25 and I was exposing people. Glad I keep a calendar so I can remember details. I went to pick up Girl Scout Cookies with my GD that day.

Hope your Mom's hanging in there. I know this isolation is hard now. Good Night & Sweet Dreamzzzzzzzs.
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[katydid23]

Experts: 90 percent of US coronavirus deaths could have been avoided if measures taken just two weeks earlier

“Epidemiologists Britta L. Jewell and Nicholas P. Jewell Tuesday wrote in an op-edin The New York Times that 90 percent of coronavirus deaths in the U.S. could have possibly been avoided if social distancing began March 2, when there were only 11 deaths recorded in the nation. If such policies would have been put in place one week earlier, on March 9, the epidemiologists say there could have been a 60 percent reduction in fatalities.

“Whatever the final death toll is in the United States, the cost of waiting will be enormous, a tragic consequence of the exponential spread of the virus early in the epidemic,” the experts wrote.”

How would the government had convinced the entire nation to shutdown when there was only 11 deaths at that point?

It seems this article is just pointing blame, based on 20/20 hindsight. JMO

 

[katydid23]

they just can't get a good poke into one to draw blood - hands are easier than arms but they hurt more
I have the same issue & I've been poked lots over the last few years - they say to drink lots of water but that never helped me any



why are they still not social distancing? is it because they wanna be on tv with Trump?



WOW!!!

I don't think you need to be 'socially distant' when standing with other close friends/co-workers that are also quarantine themselves. JMO

 

[tresir2012]

I don't think you need to be 'socially distant' when standing with other close friends/co-workers that are also quarantine themselves. JMO

They also get tested every day.

 

[tresir2012]

'Traffic light' system to lift lockdown in Wales

Some restrictions in Wales could be eased at the end of the current three-week lockdown period.

First Minister Mark Drakeford said lockdown could be left in three phases "like a traffic light in reverse".

The red phase would see only "the most careful and controlled lifting of restrictions", he told BBC Radio Wales.

The amber zone would see more restrictions lifted and, if the virus is not re-emerging, Wales could then move to the green zone, he said.

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This period "would look much more like the lives we had before the crisis hit," Mr Drakeford told Radio Wales Breakfast with Oliver Hides.

Asked when Wales might enter the red zone, the first minister said "I hope we will be in a position to do that at the end of the current three-week lockdown period".

However he warned this would only happen if Wales had met the tests set out in the Welsh Government's framework for exiting the lockdown, which will be published later on Friday.

"We will had to have had hospital admissions falling consistently for 14 days.

"They have been falling over the last week so it's not impossible that we will get to that point and in that case we can move into the red zone."

 

[katydid23]

And thanks to this thread and Dr. Campbell, I got my pulse oximeter in early February, and check it two times a day just to get a feeling of what my "Normal" is.

It calms me down every time I checking mine.

Today my daughter asked if I needed any supplies because she was going to the market. I asked for a pack of AAA batteries because I was having fears about my oximeter running out of batteries. LMAO

I was happy to receive those batteries this afternoon. After my husband read that article, he finally gets why I make him test his blood oxygen every night too. He thought I was being nutty. But now he gladly checks it and is happy to see it in the high 90's each night.

 

[Lilibet]

This is just dangerous to even suggest. Why does nobody call him out when he says things like this?

For some reason, that question always brings to mind Aesop’s fable “Who will bell the cat?” We’ve all seen what happens. ‘Nuf said.

The Mice once called a meeting to decide on a plan to free themselves of their enemy, the Cat. At least they wished to find some way of knowing when she was coming, so they might have time to run away. Indeed, something had to be done, for they lived in such constant fear of her claws that they hardly dared stir from their dens by night or day.

Many plans were discussed, but none of them was thought good enough. At last a very young Mouse got up and said:

"I have a plan that seems very simple, but I know it will be successful. All we have to do is to hang a bell about the Cat's neck. When we hear the bell ringing we will know immediately that our enemy is coming."

All the Mice were much surprised that they had not thought of such a plan before. But in the midst of the rejoicing over their good fortune, an old Mouse arose and said:

"I will say that the plan of the young Mouse is very good. But let me ask one question: Who will bell the Cat?"
Moral: It is one thing to say that something should be done, but quite a different matter to do it.

John Halsted's Blog - BELLING THE CAT – a Moral Tale from “Aesop’s Fables for Children” - May 02, 2012 05:58

I’ve seen Dr Brix and Dr Fauci diplomatically contradict the President. Some might feel they should either be less diplomatic and be fired from the task force or call him out and resign on principle. But they know the country needs them. So they stick to science and try to put out corrections. I think Dr Fauci does this better than Dr Brix, but they are both in a tough spot. You can see it on Dr Brix’ face today on a second camera while the President is talking about light and disinfecting. It’s very telling IMO. Scroll down to Daniel Lewis tweet in the WaPo article.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/04/24/disinfectant-injection-coronavirus-trump/

Trump Asks if Sunlight Can Kill Viruses. ‘Not as a Treatment,’ Birx Says.

MOO, JMO, etc.

 

[tresir2012]

The 5 tests to get out of lockdown

Are the five tests for ending lockdown being met?

Test one: Making sure the NHS can cope
It has been clear for a number of days that the health service is in a good position to cope.

Last week, NHS Providers, which represents hospitals, said it was "increasingly confident" the NHS had capacity to get through the peak.

The distressing scenes in Italy where hospitals became overwhelmed are not going to happen.

This is because of the work done to free beds in hospitals - about a third of the 100,000 plus beds across the UK were emptied as routine work was cancelled and community services agreed to take care of patients recovering in hospital.

Operating theatres and recovery rooms were transformed into intensive care wards.

It means even with just under 18,000 coronavirus patients being treated in hospital, there are more than 12,000 beds available - and that's before you take into account the Nightingale field hospitals which are hardly being used.

What is more, over a quarter of intensive care beds are still available, with ministers saying no-one who has needed a bed has been denied one.

Test two: A 'sustained and consistent' fall in the daily death rate
For the past few weeks it has looked like the number of deaths in hospital might be slowing, but it has been hard to call.

However, a new analysis now suggests the peak may have been passed nearly two weeks ago - at least in England.

The daily figures released by government represent when deaths are recorded, not when they happened.

On Monday, the figure announced was under 500, but on Tuesday it jumped to more than 800.

However, some of those deaths happened weeks ago.

NHS England has started compiling deaths by the date on which they happened.

A clear trend emerges. The peak - in England at least - seems to have happened on 8 April, experts say.

Statistician Prof David Spiegelhalter, from the University of Cambridge, said we should expect the downward trend to be slow, but he was confident it was the direction of travel.

Test three: Rate of infection decreasing to 'manageable levels'

Fourth test: Ensuring supply of tests and PPE can meet future demand

Fifth test: Being confident any adjustments would not risk a second peak

See link for details of third, fourth and fifth tests.

 

[katydid23]

I'm utterly convinced it travels through the heating/cooling system. My mother lives in an apartment building for senior citizens and disabled. It hasn't leveled them and I dont know why. I've seen them ignore mask and social distancing rules. A bit hard to social distance / mask up when a lot of them have hearing issues. I'm convinced it's because they all have their own heating/cooling units in their apartments. Jmo

OHHHH, you may be right. My Mom is in a retirement community with 200 other seniors. They are quarantined in their own apartments, since March 11th.

So far, none of the seniors have tested positive or been ill with CV. But they do have their own apartments and I believe they have their own heating/cooling systems.

That may well be what is protecting them all.

 

[tresir2012]

Yep, a nicotine patch stuck on one arm, and a pork chop taped to the other arm, my Costa sunglasses covering my eyes, and my Spongebob Squarepants mask on my face, and I will be "good to go" to the grocery store.......moo

Needed that laugh after reading about our traffic light system and 5 tests to get out of our front door.

 

[tresir2012]

Some eye opening information in today's video by the doctor!

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Look at this stat in screenshot, egads from New York City..mortality rate if on vent. >97% died if over 65 in NYC if on vent in the retrospective study.

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Yeah I saw that. If you are over 65, maybe don't bother with the ventilator. I wonder about the CPAP instead.

 

[katydid23]

JaneEyre said: ↑
Well, this is a bit maddening. We should not have unqualified people at the helm. It can cost lives.
Special Report: Former Labradoodle breeder tapped to lead U.S. pandemic task force


Simply astonishing that a dog breeder is leading the US Pandemic task force. This article from Reuters is a MUST READ - all the way through. The fact that he's a dog breeder is the least concerning part.
Special Report: Former Labradoodle breeder was tapped to lead U.S. pandemic task force

"Harrison, 37, was an unusual choice, with no formal education in public health, management, or medicine and with only limited experience in the fields. In 2006, he joined HHS in a one-year stint as a “Confidential Assistant” to Azar, who was then deputy secretary. He also had posts working for Vice President Dick Cheney, the Department of Defense and a Washington public relations company."

There are plenty of reasons this happened. And it can be traced back to what was happening when the new administration was trying to appoint cabinet members. It might shock a few people to look back and see why it was so hard to get them confirmed.

 

[MimosaMornings]

OHHHH, you may be right. My Mom is in a retirement community with 200 other seniors. They are quarantined in their own apartments, since March 11th.

So far, none of the seniors have tested positive or been ill with CV. But they do have their own apartments and I believe they have their own heating/cooling systems.

That may well be what is protecting them all.

What contact does your mom have with the staff on site? Does a nurse check on her every day?

Are her meals brought to her every day?

I have an aunt in a retirement community with her own apartment inside a large complex - feel she is safer there versus my cousin in a rehab care center where various aides/employees are in his room everyday.
JMO

Hope your moms are doing ok, I’m seeing more mental than physical issues.

 

[TMAN2014]

"There's no confusion about the source of the virus amongst scientists."

Oh, I did not hear that. Is there a source for that? Is the source of the virus the wet markets. I have not heard that confirmed.

 

[Sarahlou]

You can see it on Dr Brix’ face today on a second camera while the President is talking about light and disinfecting. It’s very telling IMO. Scroll down to Daniel Lewis tweet in the WaPo article.
MOO, JMO, etc.

Yes that is true, you could almost see her soul leaving her body! She was not happy with what was being said.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

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Milder illness in children

 

[tresir2012]

"There's no confusion about the source of the virus amongst scientists."

Oh, I did not hear that. Is there a source for that? Is the source of the virus the wet markets. I have not heard that confirmed.

Inquiring mind would definitely like to know. 95% from bats, 5% ?
MOO

 

[tresir2012]

Additionally from the above link:

“In five major U.S. cities, as of March 1 there were only 23 confirmed casesof coronavirus.

But according to the Northeastern model, there could have actually been about 28,000 infections in those cities by then.”

[...]

“Other disease researchers said the findings of Dr. Vespignani’s team were broadly in line with their own analyses. The research offers the first clear accounting of how far behind the United States was in detecting the virus. And the findings provide a warning of what can recur, the researchers say, if social distancing restrictions are lifted too quickly.”

[...]

“And more cases may have been arriving in the United States by the day.

“Knowing the number of flights coming into New York from Italy, it was like watching a horrible train wreck in slow motion,” said Adriana Heguy, director of the Genome Technology Center at New York University’s Grossman School of Medicine.”

[...]

“A few cities with early outbreaks, notably Seattle, are believed to have avoided enormous growth later by heeding the models available at the time and taking action well ahead of the rest of the country.

“We knew the numbers we saw were just the tip of the iceberg, and that there were much greater numbers below the surface,” said Jenny A. Durkan, the mayor of Seattle, in an interview. “We had to act.”

A highway sign in Seattle on April 15.Credit...Ruth Fremson/The New York Times

According to the WHO reports I am pretty sure we know the first case was in WA state in January. I will go look.

Yes 23 January see this WHO report no. 3.

Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)
by Z VIRUS · 2020 · Cited by 169
... more than 50% within 24 - 48 hours. ZIKA VIRUS. Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV). SITUATION REPORT - 3. 23 JANUARY 2020 ...

And that first recorded US Case had travel history to Wuhan according to this WHO report. So why are these February deaths in CA surprising if it was definitely in WA on 23 January ?