Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #50

[MajorHoople]

Thousands of commercial airliners are out of service due to Covid-19. So where are they? They are parked at airports all over the world.

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[Tillicum]

Note To Self - Buy more cigarettes and pork chops ahead of the possible future shortages....... moo

Yeah nicotine patches will be the next shortage.

 

[cody22]

Yeah nicotine patches will be the next shortage.

Yep, a nicotine patch stuck on one arm, and a pork chop taped to the other arm, my Costa sunglasses covering my eyes, and my Spongebob Squarepants mask on my face, and I will be "good to go" to the grocery store.......moo

 

[PommyMommy]

Carl Quintanilla on Twitter
Anything we can move outside this summer, "we should move outside," says @ScottGottliebMD on @CNBC, referencing sunlight's degrading effect on #covid19. Any gathering, like church services, are "going to have a safer environment."
8:02 AM - 23 Apr 2020

Scott Gottlieb, MD on Twitter
New: Study of 318 outbreaks in China found transmission occurred out-of-doors in only one, involving just 2 cases. Most occurred in home or public transport. Raises key chance for states to move services outdoors (religious, gym classes, restaurants, etc). https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.04.20053058v1 …

9:55 AM - 23 Apr 2020

Andrew Dunn on Twitter
Janet Woodcock, longtime head of the FDA's drug division: FDA has received >950 inquiries on COVID drug development, 72 drugs now in clinical trials, 211 more programs in development/planning "A rather overwhelming amount in such a short time," Woodcock adds.
9:46 AM - 23 Apr 2020

Andrew Dunn on Twitter
FDA's CDER head stresses the need for master protocols, adaptive randomization, shared control groups for clinical trials. Everyone running their own studies may not run of COVID-19 patients, but Woodcock warns it could run out of research personnel and time
9:48 AM - 23 Apr 2020

Scott Gottlieb, MD on Twitter
By the time New York City confirmed its first case of covid19 on March 1st, as many as 10,000 infections were already silently spreading through the city, according to new analysis.
Hidden Outbreaks Spread Through U.S. Cities Far Earlier Than Americans Knew, Estimates Say
10:57 AM - 23 Apr 2020

Scott Gottlieb, MD on Twitter
The National Governors Association, under the chairmanship of @GovLarryHogan, has released a comprehensive, staged road map for the nation’s governors to responsibly re-start economic activity as they lead their states toward safety and recovery.
https://www.nga.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/NGA-Report.pdf
11:10 AM - 23 Apr 2020

Scott Gottlieb, MD on Twitter

1:13 PM - 23 Apr 2020

Scott Gottlieb, MD on Twitter
New: Researchers clone two human blocking monoclonal antibodies using #SARSCoV2 specific memory B cells isolated from patients with #COVID19 that bind and neutralize activity of virus; demonstrating the basis for antibody drugs as potential therapeutics.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41423-020-0426-7.pdf
12:50 PM - 23 Apr 2020

 

[pocketaccent]

Coronavirus Update: Two-thirds of seriously ill COVID-19 patients didn't have fever, study finds

"The most surprising finding to me was that two-thirds of the patients who were seriously ill with an active infection did not have a fever," said senior researcher Karina Davidson, PhD.

Fever is the first symptom doctors look for, but Davidson said the sickest patients didn't present with a fever.

"This is a puzzling infection," she said. "Different people have different symptoms, some of them mild, some of those severe."
...
Fifty-seven percent had hypertension (high blood pressure), 41% were obese and 34% had type 2 diabetes. The results reveal COVID-19 is much more than just a lung disease.

"It is going to have not just short-term effects that are deleterious on many target organs, but we may be looking at an infection that has long-term consequences," Davidson said.
...

 

[cass523]

Rutgers Saliva Testing

Gov. Phil Murphy said Thursday that COVID-19 cases in New Jersey are almost at 100,000 as the hard-hit Garden State continues to aggressively test for the deadly virus.

On Thursday, the total number of COVID-19 cases in New Jersey jumped to 99,989, with more than 4,000 new cases reported.

At least 5,368 people have died from coronavirus-related complications with 307 more deaths reported over the past 24 hours. Preexisting conditions like cardiovascular disease (60%) and diabetes (42%) have been prevalent in deaths of people with underlying conditions.

Murphy says he thinks the state needs to double the number of tests it does daily.
The state would need to ramp up testing beyond just symptomatic people before reopening its economy.

Some testing sites are using a saliva test developed by Rutgers University. That saliva-based test is going to be used starting next week at five state developmental centers, Murphy said.

"This is a total of more than 5,500 tests – more than 1,200 residents, and in excess of 4,300 staff," Murphy said.

As the Rutgers-developed testing expands -- up to 10,000 tests can be done a day within a couple of weeks, according to Rutgers -- Murphy wants more state workers tested.

The Rutgers' saliva test in 100% accurate compared to a traditional swab test in the nose, Rutgers Biomedical and Health Sciences Chancellor Dr. Brian Strom said.

Governor Phil Murphy said at a Thursday press briefing that test results now take five to seven days, rather than two weeks. The state has at least 86 testing sites, some using a rapid analysis developed by Rutgers, the state university. That could prevent “boomerang outbreaks,” the governor said.

Brian Strom, a medical doctor and chancellor of Rutgers Biomedical and Health Sciences, said the school has developed two FDA-approved coronavirus tests. One returns results in 40 minutes. Another, based on a saliva sample, delivers results in 24 hours and requires no swabs and little, if any, personal protective equipment, and is being used in some drive-through sites, Strom said at a Trenton news conference.

The biggest need right now, Strom said, was 20 to 30 technicians to process the results. “We don’t need the swabs -- we don’t need the viral media,” Strom said. “The equipment is gettable.”

NJ Gov. Murphy Pushes for More Testing as Coronavirus Cases Near 100,000

N.J. Expanding Virus Testing With Cases on Brink of 100,000

 

[j_in_c]

Doesn't that mean that there are problems with the antibody test?

It certainly means that one or the other was wrong. This is showing that ppl who tested false (2 and 3 times!) by nasal swab are showing up as having antibodies for COVID19. While I think it was the correct thing to do, the hyper fast-tracking of all these tests will definitely lead to a lot of questions about accuracy. We need the same set of blood samples to be tested with one of hte other antibody test kits and confirm results.

 

[10ofRods]

Have you got a link to the studies showing it is dangerous?

I would like to also see all studies completed and peer reviewed before judging, anyway, which may take a while.

Are you speaking of HC? It is associated with greater mortality from CV in several studies, all of which have been linked here over the past few days. In particular, combined with Z-pac, it tends to cause heart arrhythmia thereby increasing chances of death, especially when combined with CoVid.

If it were me, and I had CoVid + pneumonia, I'd do Z-pac. I've had it before with no side effects. I would not combine it with HC and I certainly wouldn't take HC by itself for any reason except its scheduled uses.

 

[Wicked Strong]

Thousands of commercial airliners are out of service due to Covid-19. So where are they? They are parked at airports all over the world.

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I hope to travel to Idaho the end of June, if our event isn't cancelled. Do you have any thoughts, or have you heard anything, about prices for airline tickets when states begin to open up. Oh one hand, I think the travel industry will be lowering prices to entice people to get out of their homes, and the other hand says they need the money and will go for all they can get price wise. Just asking

MOO

 

[margarita25]

Kansas has 2,482 cases of COVID-19

“The KDHE is expecting a significant increase in cases in western Kansas within the next few days as new testing strategies are implemented.”

 

[MajorHoople]

I hope to travel to Idaho the end of June, if our event isn't cancelled. Do you have any thoughts, or have you heard anything, about prices for airline tickets when states begin to open up. Oh one hand, I think the travel industry will be lowering prices to entice people to get out of their homes, and the other hand says they need the money and will go for all they can get price wise. Just asking

MOO

I don't have a clue about the future of air travel. But I do believe that cheap air fares and open borders allowed this plague to sweep around the world in record speed.

 

[mickey2942]

I hope to travel to Idaho the end of June, if our event isn't cancelled. Do you have any thoughts, or have you heard anything, about prices for airline tickets when states begin to open up. Oh one hand, I think the travel industry will be lowering prices to entice people to get out of their homes, and the other hand says they need the money and will go for all they can get price wise. Just asking

MOO

Where I live, ticket prices fluctuate constantly. If you are going someplace like Boise, probably a fair price. A smaller airport, probably higher price.

What happens here, is that airlines use smaller planes, constantly, based on ticket sales. You might be in an MD 80 one day, and the next, a little puddle jumper. Which brings up the issues of social Distancing.

 

[MajorHoople]

1918 vs. 2020: many pandemic parallels in East Tennessee

Here's a local comparison of the current plague to the Spanish Flu.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I guess signing up as a blood and plasma donor would get yourself a free CV19 test if you were not sure whether you had already had it or not. MOO

I would think they want verification that you had it. However, I wish they would get to people who think they had it who could give blood and plasma... and they would find out if they had antibodies. That's probably phase 9.

 

[tresir2012]

Are you speaking of HC? It is associated with greater mortality from CV in several studies, all of which have been linked here over the past few days. In particular, combined with Z-pac, it tends to cause heart arrhythmia thereby increasing chances of death, especially when combined with CoVid.

If it were me, and I had CoVid + pneumonia, I'd do Z-pac. I've had it before with no side effects. I would not combine it with HC and I certainly wouldn't take HC by itself for any reason except its scheduled uses.

That veteran one was not a proper study, no placebo group and no peer review. I was asking for other completed studies beside that one if you know of any. I know there are several still ongoing but would like to see the ones you mention.

 

[Curious Me]

Good picture in this article of Covid Toes.

Yep, I still have my one big Covid Toe with one rectangle red patch on the skin below the toenail. It doesn't hurt or itch. I feel fine and I have no symptoms, so I don't know what to make of my toe. Sure, it could be some other condition causing it, but it showed up coincidently right when the virus did. I don't know if calling my doctor at this time might be useless.

Doctors say 'COVID toes' may be symptom of coronavirus, especially in youth

Do some of my best thinking on here putting my thoughts in a post. I want to thank all of you for weighting in on my Covid Toe.​

Looking back on my calendar, I saw this red patch on my toe back on Jan. 25th. I try to take good care of my feet. I soaked my feet in Apple Cider Vinegar water bath and got sunlight on them. It didn't hurt or itch though. The red patch went away in days.

Then, I see I wrote Red Toe on April 5, so it came back in the exact same place. Nothing I put on it changes anything. It is still there on April 23. Now a smaller toe on the other foot looks red!!! I'm going to try the sunlight on my feet again.

Never had this type of chilblains / pernio before. Perhaps the timing is a coincidence and I have some kind of circulation problem, just at the same time talk of toes are hitting the news... I'm not a kid, and live in a warmer climate. Does anyone here or anyone you know have this symptom?

Doctors say 'COVID toes' may be symptom of coronavirus, especially in youth

“I think it’s much more rampant than we even realize,” said Dr. Paller. “The good news is it resolves spontaneously.”

When? Now I have another one!
My young doctor poo-poos things anytime I try to run something by her. I actually have to argue with her at times. Urged to "ask your doctor", then she poo-poos it. So, I feel it'd just irritate me to have a phone appointment now when they don't know enough. The article says wait for the antibody testing. I have no other Covid-19 symptoms, but I think I have or had it.

"Given the shortage in testing for the virus right now, Dr. Paller recommends getting antibody testing when available to confirm the association in these otherwise largely healthy kids."

 

[tresir2012]

I don't have a clue about the future of air travel. But I do believe that cheap air fares and open borders allowed this plague to sweep around the world in record speed.

I believe it more likely the cruise ships. I think when this is all over and analysed it will be care homes, cruise ships and possibly anywhere with high population density that have suffered the worse cases. MOO.

 

[tresir2012]

Do some of my best thinking on here putting my thoughts in a post. I want to thank all of you for weighting in on my Covid Toe.​

Looking back on my calendar, I saw this red patch on my toe back on Jan. 25th. I try to take good care of my feet. I soaked my feet in Apple Cider Vinegar water bath and got sunlight on them. It didn't hurt or itch though. The red patch went away in days.

Then, I see I wrote Red Toe on April 5, so it came back in the exact same place. Nothing I put on it changes anything. It is still there on April 23. Now a smaller toe on the other foot looks red!!! I'm going to try the sunlight on my feet again.

Never had this type of chilblains / pernio before. Perhaps the timing is a coincidence and I have some kind of circulation problem, just at the same time talk of toes are hitting the news... I'm not a kid, and live in a warmer climate. Does anyone here or anyone you know have this symptom?

Doctors say 'COVID toes' may be symptom of coronavirus, especially in youth

“I think it’s much more rampant than we even realize,” said Dr. Paller. “The good news is it resolves spontaneously.”

When? Now I have another one!
My young doctor poo-poos things anytime I try to run something by her. I actually have to argue with her at times. Urged to "ask your doctor", then she poo-poos it. So, I feel it'd just irritate me to have a phone appointment now when they don't know enough. The article says wait for the antibody testing. I have no other Covid-19 symptoms, but I think I have or had it.

"Given the shortage in testing for the virus right now, Dr. Paller recommends getting antibody testing when available to confirm the association in these otherwise largely healthy kids."

Contact your doctor who has your complete medical history. We don't know any of that on here. You are clearly worried about it <modsnip> so please call.

 

[margarita25]

From the article,

"What’s more, there’s little evidence that surgical masks do much good in protecting humans for spreading or acquiring illnesses, an infectious disease doctor previously told Fox News. Surgical masks, which cover the nose and mouth, are often made from a flimsy material and aren’t fitted to the face. Spaces and gaps can form around the cheeks and edges of the mouth, making it easy for air to move in and out."

A couple of things. It can still enter via the eyes right? Also I posted an article yesterday about Hong Kong only having 4 deaths from CV19 and that 97% of people wear masks so there is evidence masks work. Not sure what type HK people wear but pictures sure looked like surgical masks. HK has a population of 7.5 million and a high population density so only 4 deaths is pretty incredible. ( All sources Worldometer)

• The current population of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region of the People's Republic of China is 7,485,448as of Thursday, April 23, 2020, based on Worldometer elaboration of the latest United Nations data.
• China, Hong Kong SAR 2020 population is estimated at 7,496,981 people at mid year according to UN data.
• China, Hong Kong SAR population is equivalent to 0.1% of the total world population.
• Hong Kong ranks number 104 in the list of countries (and dependencies) by population.
• The population density in China, Hong Kong SAR is 7140 per Km2 (18,492 people per mi2).

I'll see if if can post a pic of that cat.

Cats are wearing coronavirus masks in China
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Published February 16
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Chinese pet owners putting face masks on cats and dogs amid the coronavirus outbreak. ( AsiaWire )

Re: only 4 deaths in Hong Kong, I seriously question this. Jmo

 

[tresir2012]

Carl Quintanilla on Twitter
Anything we can move outside this summer, "we should move outside," says @ScottGottliebMD on @CNBC, referencing sunlight's degrading effect on #covid19. Any gathering, like church services, are "going to have a safer environment."
8:02 AM - 23 Apr 2020

Scott Gottlieb, MD on Twitter
New: Study of 318 outbreaks in China found transmission occurred out-of-doors in only one, involving just 2 cases. Most occurred in home or public transport. Raises key chance for states to move services outdoors (religious, gym classes, restaurants, etc). https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.04.20053058v1 …

9:55 AM - 23 Apr 2020

Andrew Dunn on Twitter
Janet Woodcock, longtime head of the FDA's drug division: FDA has received >950 inquiries on COVID drug development, 72 drugs now in clinical trials, 211 more programs in development/planning "A rather overwhelming amount in such a short time," Woodcock adds.
9:46 AM - 23 Apr 2020

Andrew Dunn on Twitter
FDA's CDER head stresses the need for master protocols, adaptive randomization, shared control groups for clinical trials. Everyone running their own studies may not run of COVID-19 patients, but Woodcock warns it could run out of research personnel and time
9:48 AM - 23 Apr 2020

Scott Gottlieb, MD on Twitter
By the time New York City confirmed its first case of covid19 on March 1st, as many as 10,000 infections were already silently spreading through the city, according to new analysis.
Hidden Outbreaks Spread Through U.S. Cities Far Earlier Than Americans Knew, Estimates Say
10:57 AM - 23 Apr 2020

Scott Gottlieb, MD on Twitter
The National Governors Association, under the chairmanship of @GovLarryHogan, has released a comprehensive, staged road map for the nation’s governors to responsibly re-start economic activity as they lead their states toward safety and recovery.
https://www.nga.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/NGA-Report.pdf
11:10 AM - 23 Apr 2020

Scott Gottlieb, MD on Twitter

1:13 PM - 23 Apr 2020

Scott Gottlieb, MD on Twitter
New: Researchers clone two human blocking monoclonal antibodies using #SARSCoV2 specific memory B cells isolated from patients with #COVID19 that bind and neutralize activity of virus; demonstrating the basis for antibody drugs as potential therapeutics.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41423-020-0426-7.pdf
12:50 PM - 23 Apr 2020

This bit is really interesting to me as it explains the care home cases, the aircraft carrier cases and the cruise ship cases. Captive victims. It also explains high number of cases with mass transit systems. You have no chance of tracing your contacts from a train or bus.

Scott Gottlieb, MD on Twitter
New: Study of 318 outbreaks in China found transmission occurred out-of-doors in only one, involving just 2 cases. Most occurred in home or public transport. Raises key chance for states to move services outdoors (religious, gym classes, restaurants, etc). https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.04.20053058v1 …

We already know about the U.S.Navy aircraft carrier cases and now here is some info re cases on other countries" naval ships.

Coronavirus: HMS Queen Elizabeth stays in Portsmouth for crew tests