Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #52

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Dude, I sent that to you. Well, I sent you 0.00000001 cents. You are welcome.
I was gonna say that :) And thank all you fellow Americans for giving me my piece of the communal pie.
 
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Interesting. Dubuque is a big John Deere town too, if I recall correctly. Wonder how it is doing. Riverboat gambling there too, on the Mississippi?

jmo
IIRC, the Deere plant in Dubuque did have to close for cleaning because of employees testing positive, but has been back open now for a while. I have not heard anything about the riverboat gambling there, but yes they have it there. 100% sure they won't be able to open until at least May 15th, because Dubuque county is one of the 22 counties in Iowa that is not lifting restrictions yet. Honestly, I don't really pay much attention to was is happening out that direction. All IMO. ETA-I don't think gambling is open anywhere in Iowa yet. It is getting hard to keep track of what is opening and what is not to be honest.
 
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Agree. I just updated my Health Care Directive, Advance Power of Attorney and Last Will & Testament. It meant going for a signing at my attorney's office last week, but we each sat at opposite ends of a very long conference table. Witnesses who signed were stationed in the hall outside the conference room looking in the window.

My Health Care Directive has do not resuscitate order, but I've added no ventilation as well. A copy is now with my doctor, and life options advocacy agent as well as POA. They all know.....make me comfortable with morphine drip and let me go.

@Chelly, I. think your directive makes a lot of sense. I pretty much feel the same way, although I might allow my daughter (RN). to make a call about a temporary use of a ventilator. Fortunately, many doctors are not rushing to ventilators as quickly as before. So hopefully, if you ever get CV (and you might not), you can survive it without those invasive measures.

I think having those instructions forces doctors to try other things. Antivirals need to be used early on. So do not wait to go to the ER if you have a sudden loss of sense of smell or taste, or a new cough or, especially, shortness of breath. Lots can be done without a ventilator.

If my family wants me on a ventilator while they come to terms with what's going on, I'm okay with that (I will be in no shape to know or care at that point). I was on one in January, a bit unexpectedly and only briefly - as I had feared, even a minor surgery necessitated a ventilator for me, an asthmatic. I think it was out of abundance of caution, but boy did I like the anesthesiologist and her explanation of why she did it - I was of course under sedation.

My biggest worry is that if I die, our very good health plan dies with me and my DH is uninsured. He would have to spend a big chunk of money on health insurance, plus the cash-out of my main retirement account is not as great as if I were to live another 10 years. It's good to think about these things though.
 
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How will people get back to work if daycares are closed?
Exactly! I've heard one or two gov/mayor address this issue, but it's HUGE issue, worth more than a passing mention.

jmo
 
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How will people get back to work if daycares are closed?
They are contacting daycare providers to see if they are available for in home services, perhaps relatives within their social circle.
 
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My Husband and I both wrote down what our wishes are concerning a care plan if god forbid! We also wrote down any meds we take and listed drug allergies. I have many drug allergies and he has none known. Dr.'s name. Also phone #'s of next of kin. In case it becomes an Emergency. Paper goes with.
 
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:eek:......Do it like the Germans....:oops:

German doctors are nakedly protesting PPE shortages to show how vulnerable they are without protection

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proof I've been cocooned too long - I actually clicked on the pics
 
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Ranchers are saying there isn't a shortage of beef in the U.S., the issue is the time it will take for facilities to implement worker safety measures in the meat processing plants. So the shortage is described as a delay, not a long term problem for the U.S. Hope that is the case.

Cattle industry expected to lose billions amid coronavirus pandemic: 'We are suffering right now'

Our CSA (Community Supported Agriculture) just added fresh grass fed beef, chicken, and pork to their items available. Farm to table is working here in Montana.
 
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@Chelly, I. think your directive makes a lot of sense. I pretty much feel the same way, although I might allow my daughter (RN). to make a call about a temporary use of a ventilator. Fortunately, many doctors are not rushing to ventilators as quickly as before. So hopefully, if you ever get CV (and you might not), you can survive it without those invasive measures.

I think having those instructions forces doctors to try other things. Antivirals need to be used early on. So do not wait to go to the ER if you have a sudden loss of sense of smell or taste, or a new cough or, especially, shortness of breath. Lots can be done without a ventilator.

If my family wants me on a ventilator while they come to terms with what's going on, I'm okay with that (I will be in no shape to know or care at that point). I was on one in January, a bit unexpectedly and only briefly - as I had feared, even a minor surgery necessitated a ventilator for me, an asthmatic. I think it was out of abundance of caution, but boy did I like the anesthesiologist and her explanation of why she did it - I was of course under sedation.

My biggest worry is that if I die, our very good health plan dies with me and my DH is uninsured. He would have to spend a big chunk of money on health insurance, plus the cash-out of my main retirement account is not as great as if I were to live another 10 years. It's good to think about these things though.

As much as a ventilator horrifies me, if need be I'll go that route. I'm 57 with 2 grandchildren under 2 and one daughter. Of course, she's married, I have my husband. I so want to watch my grandbabies grow up.
 
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I am surprised you are surprised. Have you seen other groceries? Big Box stores? Convenience stores? They are out of products too.

Our little corner gas station in the middle of Boondocks has tons of t.p. Mind you, the locals haven't been hoarding it. According to the station owner, most supplies seem to come in at a normal rate. Items they order get "on the truck" and arrive here as usual. This makes me think that folks might still be hoarding paper products in your part of the world. Could that be true?
 
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Exactly! I've heard one or two gov/mayor address this issue, but it's HUGE issue, worth more than a passing mention.

jmo
I think the "solution" is going to be that friends and family will need to step in. Two-parent families are already used to juggling schedules for when kids are sick and can't go to school or daycare.

JMO
 
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