Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #52

[ilovewings]

Hence the screens just in case.
BTW does your user name refer to chicken wings?

-- I am a Detroit Red Wings fan--well i used to be when they were great-
they have sucked the last few years -but i still love em and hope
they improve soon!!!! Thanks for asking though and i do love
chicken wings too!!!

 

[Deleted member 158085]

The thing about rural communities is you can always move outside the city limits. Jmo

When some people originally moved to these communities, you could even have horses. After 40 years in the same house people don't really want to be forced to move over such, which I think is pretty understandable.

 

[tresir2012]

The WHO spoke to such yesterday as they had seen that report. I cannot seem to cut/paste... so here are two screenshots of the discussion/answer re the report of the Switzerland edict two days ago re hugging kids. (for those that cannot read it, more studies needed, and they point to if kids are asymptomatic, the don't cough as much, is disease "dose related" etc... so don't perhaps spread as much)

https://www.who.int/docs/default-so...ss-conference-29apr2020.pdf?sfvrsn=aaa81d24_2

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So kids don't get a cough so don't spread it, is what they are thinking. Well, also they don't die from it hardly at all based on the data up to the age of 18. So they can hug but maybe not kiss.

 

[beatrixpotter]

I haven’t seen those documentaries, but I mentioned several threads ago my opinion that our treatment of animals in feedlots, etc is just as inhumane as wet markets and eating dogs in China. It’s not a popular opinion, but I don’t think the U.S. can really take the moral high ground in this regard, even though those practices are repugnant to us for good reason. IMO, JMO

I’m honestly not sure if I want to buy meat at the grocery store again after the little bit I have runs out. We were vegetarians in the late 1960’s and have tried to be vegan several times for health reasons, but we like meat. However, two things are tipping me back toward cutting out meat again (at least meat that is commercially raised). One is how these animals are treated and another is how the workers in the meat processing plants are being treated during this pandemic. Both hurt my heart. I can see possibly buying meat locally from someone I know, and a little wild salmon. But maybe not. Lots to think about.

I stopped eating meat over a year ago for heath reasons. It seems that despite being intellectually convinced I needed to be on a low carb diet for over a decade my body absolutely does not like it. My labwork backs this up and over and over again. I eat minimal dairy and no eggs or meat now. I'm back to buying dairy from a local farmer that delivers. I don't miss meat or fish in my diet at all. If I had to choose again I would always choose to eat tons of vegetabes and legumes instead of a diet again where I had to give up beans and limit and count the carbs in my veg.

The rest of my family eats eggs, but from hens we raise and treat well. But I'd be very happy to stop buying meat from these large farms where they are treat horribly and processed horribly. I've tracked down a local farmer to buy beef from. And we've ordered our own birds to raise for meat. I'd prefer to know how the animals are raised and treated.

The rest of the family prefers to eat meat, but for religious reasons they actually abstain from all animal products for half the year. I understand not everyone choosing to not eat meat. But I do think we could make more of an effort to raise and kill those animals a lot more humanely. I think going back to supporting local farmers is part of the way to do this.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Wise words from my local county health officer. I have all the respect in the world for him and our county health department. He's also an ER doc:

Eric Yazel, MD

Daily dose of calm. Everything old is new again. We have come full circle to one of the very first posts. It feels like we have divided into two camps again. The 'end of the human race is upon us' camp and the 'this is all a hoax and conspiracy' crowd. What if I told you the real answer, as with most polarizing issues, probably lands in the middle? Is COVID surging in parts of the country, overwhelming ICU's and eating up hospital resources. Yes, it is. Are there a lot of other areas of the country that are being hit but are able to meet the need with solid response plans and good resource utilization? Sure there are. And are there parts of the country that are relatively unaffected? Yep. Hospitals are overwhelmed. Hospitals are empty and furloughing people. Wait, what? How can this be? Can a place be full and empty at the same time? Yep. ICU's in a lot of areas are overflowing and running low on vents, but wings of regular floor beds run empty. ER's are running at about 2/3 the patient volume they normally see. But the acuity is often higher with more unstable acutely ill patients than normal. How can you see meat packing plants with hundreds of cases while at the same time people living in the same household eating together, playing together, sleeping together who don't transmit it? That can't really be happening right? We have seen recommendations that are not based on a gold standard, but on supply chain issues. We all need N95 masks. Just healthcare professionals need them. Surgical masks are acceptable unless doing something high risk. Cloth masks are probably ok. Hell, use a bandanna if you need to. We hear people are dying at an alarming rate. We hear majority of people have no symptoms. Some healthcare workers are having mental health crises because of the psychological toll from what they are seeing. Some healthcare workers are saying this is an over-dramatized fabrication. Someone has to be lying right? Nope. All of us in the medical field are having vastly different experiences depending on specialty and geographic location. You can see how some of these scenarios lead to conflicting statements and general confusion. And I would love to sit here and point the finger at a lot of you who have spent your quarantine time going down rabbit holes and propagating conspiracy theories. A lot of you have been sitting in front of the computer like Pigman from PCU doing his TV thesis (more bonus points for this one) becoming amateur public health experts. It's a true shame that right when they need us the most, the general public seems to be losing trust in the medical profession . And some of that is confirmation bias. People tend to believe things that are consistent with their own existing beliefs. But to place the full blame there isn't fair or the entire truth. The medical profession needs to shoulder their portion of the blame as well. And it's for a simple reason, the inability to use 3 simple words: I don't know. COVID-19 has been one huge mess of gray areas and contradictions. And in our hurry to appear competent and in control, a lot of medical experts have given advice that isn't based on sound data. In our sprint to be cutting edge, we have rushed into treatments that aren't evidence based and have eventually shown little efficacy. There wasn't ill intent. This was a time when our country needed us most, and the pressure to rapidly meet the challenge was almost insurmountable. So what's that mean for the next challenge: opening back up? I'll get this out there right now. I don't know. Will we see a resurgence? If so, what will it look like? Again, I don't know. I have no qualms saying this. But my dad always told me when that's the case, always rely on common sense. And that's exactly what we will do. We will re-open in a cautious, data driven, step-wise approach. It won't be a linear path. I am sure there will be new 'hot spots' pop up. We will probably have missteps and take a step back here and there. But we WILL do everything we can every single day to make progress and keep the general public safe as we do so. Let's come back together, realize we have a common goal and believe in each other again. We will beat this. Together. Be smart. Make good decisions. Stay home.

 

[cody22]

Illinois Governor dodges question about wife skipping town during COVID

Illinois Virus News....moo

 

[CSIDreamer]

Illinois Governor dodges question about wife skipping town during COVID

Illinois Virus News....moo

Do as I say, not as I do. Jmo

 

[IceIce9]

Indiana governor extends stay at home order to May 15. It was set to expire tomorrow.

Hogsett to extend Marion County’s stay-at-home order through May 15

 

[IceIce9]

Simon has announced that they were opening 49 malls on May 2.
WTHR.com
@WTHRcom

Dr. Caine concerned about Simon decision to open malls this weekend. "May undo all the good work" already done. Cites Georgia case increase after reopening.
@IndyMayorJoe
"We follow Dr. Caine's lead" and will consult with Simon today.
10:19 AM · Apr 30, 2020·TweetDeck

 

[IceIce9]

Is this Indiana or Marion County so far?

Oh, I see you made another post lol. My bad probably.

I corrected my first post, sorry. My fingers are sometimes faster than my brain.

 

[CSIDreamer]

I corrected my first post, sorry. My fingers are sometimes faster than my brain.

Mine too ha ha

 

[Lavender Moon]

Frost Owl

At the moment I'm at home with confirmed Covid-19, my symptoms are mild with a fever of above 38,0 Centigrades (100 F) if I don't take paracetamol, a headache that won't go away, tiredness, and very mild cold symptoms. No breathing difficulties, cough, aches or anything else. I most likely caught it at work (emergency department), as we have had more and more patients with suspected corona during last week, and one of my colleagues have also got it. Now I have to stay at home until all symptoms are gone + two more days. I got a call from one of the doctors at the Department of Infectious Diseases, as well as from a nurse at the Disease control unit at the hospital, giving me advice and what symptoms to be observant of.

The number confirmed cases here in my part of Sweden is still low, 73 cases, and 2 deaths. The laboratory capacity have been increase and now all hospital staff, and personnel taking care of elders, are tested if they have any symptoms that could be coronarelated.

Sending prayers for your fast and full
recovery, Frost Owl. May I suggest drinking thyme tea for your headache. It helps me with my chronic migraines.
It's good plain or with milk and honey
The kind I buy is mixed with wildflowers.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Simon has announced that they were opening 49 malls on May 2.
WTHR.com
@WTHRcom

Dr. Caine concerned about Simon decision to open malls this weekend. "May undo all the good work" already done. Cites Georgia case increase after reopening.
@IndyMayorJoe
"We follow Dr. Caine's lead" and will consult with Simon today.
10:19 AM · Apr 30, 2020·TweetDeck

I'm thinking they can overrule Simon as non essential?

Simon says walk it back.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

Coronavirus: B&Q reopens all 288 stores amid lockdown

The company has gradually opened the doors of its sites across the country, with its final two outlets reopening on Thursday after stores closed due to the COVID-19 lockdown introduced in March.

Customers have visited the stores in their droves, leading to long queues outside, due to the coronavirus social distancing measures put in place.

DIY stores have been listed as "essential" by the government, meaning they are allowed to remain open during the lockdown, but some people have been concerned over the impact of opening the stores - such as increased traffic.

B&Q said it is "strictly limiting the number of customers in store at any one time", as well as introducing new safety measures, such as trolley sanitising stations.

Floors display markers signifying two metre gaps, while the now contactless-only checkouts have been fitted with Perspex screens to protect staff.

 

[IceIce9]

Hogsett extending 'stay-at-home' order through May 15

Indiana’s stay at home order expires tomorrow but Indianapolis and Marion County will remain on stay at home until a May 15.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Thanks. Here is a screenshot of his card from his BFF Elizabeth. I love how the Queen signs as merely Elizabeth...

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Me too!

 

[MajorHoople]

New Zealand is a tiny island. They shut down their borders at the same time we just shut ours down to Chinese flights.

They went all in and totally shut down the country to anything incoming.

I don't think that would have been possible to do with large countries, so early in the crisis.

Maybe next time we will try that?

New Zealand had another advantage too. It was the middle of summer there in February. In general Covid-19 has been mild in the tropical countries.

 

[IceIce9]

Thanks. Here is a screenshot of his card from his BFF Elizabeth. I love how the Queen signs as merely Elizabeth...

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When the monarch is in a working capacity, she will sign off as Elizabeth R; the 'R' stands for regina which means 'queen' in Latin. This signature is found on official documents and in any correspondence she's writing in her role as sovereign.

Why Queen Elizbeth II Signs Her Name as "Elizabeth R"

 

[CSIDreamer]

Military planes will do flyovers across Kentucky Friday, including over Louisville

Hopefully, I will see this. I'm soooooo close to Louisville. Jmo

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Today's Dr. Campbell video