Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #54

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Heavy Death Toll Came As Surprise To Head Of Sweden's No-Lockdown Plan

The man leading Sweden's coronavirus response says the country's elevated death toll "really came as a surprise to us."

Dr. Anders Tegnell, Sweden's state epidemiologist, appeared on "The Daily Show with Trevor Noah" on Tuesday, when he described the country's controversial approach.

"We never really calculated with a high death toll initially, I must say," he said.

"We calculated on more people being sick, but the death toll really came as a surprise to us."

The head of Sweden's no-lockdown coronavirus plan said the country's heavy death toll 'came as a surprise'

I find this truly difficult to believe.
 
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Really? A 73 year old man who had major open heart surgery last year, and a 67 year old woman?
I'm pretty sure you're being funny. I'm just too tired right now to laugh at this.

My apologies. I somehow missed your ages and health issues. No ill will was intended.
 
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I don't know anyone. I'm not in a hotspot, but I have an elderly relative who was positive in an elder care facility in GA who is fine now. I know at least two people who have been in my office building have tested positive, but no one I know in the building has been seriously ill or hospitalized. None of my kids' friends or families have even been ill.
My husband knows people at his work who have died. We are in a hot spot.

jmo
 
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Pure hell, IMO. Every other day I google "States likely to financially recover from Covit-19 shutdowns" ?
Not an article to be had yet.
We will be leaving California as soon as possible. For us, we wanted to leave anyway, but California's leaders and how they've handled this shutdown has made us even more anxious to get out asap. Personally, we think, California will fare worse than many other States.
It's not had a business friendly atmosphere for decades, this situation has and will make it worse. Imo

To me, the best thing about Southern California has always been the weather. It's like an endless summer.

I hope things will work out for you.
 
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My apologies, I guess I did not think it out correctly.

First, I posted a story about 8 year-old Jayden being one of the 64 children with the multi-system inflammatory syndrome. In a NYC hospital and the doctor that took care of him. He is a boy scout

Then I saw another article, same child, noting the beginning of his illness, symptoms, his family, and what led up to a ventilator.
I thought maybe someone would be interested in reading how they diagnosed him from the beginning with his family. I did not realize it was the same.

l will try to be more mindful of what I post. Still learning
@cass523 You did just fine! It's okay to post more than one link about the same story. I was reading too quickly and thought they were two different kids. Fault was with the reader, not the poster. :)

jmo
 
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A family friend (just turned 60 yo) living in a relatively low-infected area of Manhattan became ill suddenly. Extremely fatigued - sleeping all day and then again through the night for about 3 days. He developed a high fever of 103 for only one of the 3 days. Those were his only symptoms.

He went into one of the local CityMD places to get both a covid swab test, as well as the AB test a week later. I guess he was anxious (Who wouldn't be in NYC these days?), and so they wanted to do an EKG which they then told him was abnormal. They wouldn't do either test, and instructed him to go to the ER.

We were all pretty shocked as he has had no visitors, nor visited anyone since the shutdown here. No public transportation, nor car services. He was religious about wearing a mask in the common apartment building areas, and when he went out which was only for food shopping. However, he did not always wear gloves when food shopping.

The hospital ER told him that his EKG was perfectly normal and gave him both tests. They told him they expect him to have had covid, and said he was lucky he did not have symptoms of troubled breathing.

It's unnerving and still scary to be living in NYC.

I'm sorry to hear that your friend is having these medical problems. Hopefully he will soon recover. Please let us know how he is doing.
 
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The 'people of Walmart' sure don't get it. I had to pick up an order from the tower located a few feet from the front door. Right next to the tower is the self check out section. People were packed in there like a can of sardines and maybe 2 out of 20 were wearing masks. That place is a Petri dish.

I was shocked in walmart the other day. They're using every other check lane and also close down every other self checkout. Happy, but shocked.
 
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That seems counter intuitive to me.

I would want people who had already recovered to join my recruitment crew.

Sometimes government group think is wrong headed....

The thing I'm wondering about is we really don't know what kind of permanent damage this virus inflicts. Jmo
 
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I’m curious how many of you know someone who tested positive and that person(s) ended up in the hospital. I don’t know anyone. I’m in a hot spot outside of a major hot spot.

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My husband knows people at his work who have died. We are in a hot spot.

jmo

My co-worker’s daughter died; the cook at my sister’s restaurant died; and someone from my high school class died.

I am sure there will be others once we hear more.
 
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I ran by the liquor store this afternoon to grab a couple of bottles of wine and the couple behind me at the cash register stood about 6 inches behind me, unmasked. I was so uncomfortable! After I paid and turned around the leave, I asked the lady to please step back so I could walk around them safely. She looked at me like I was crazy. I felt like i was in the twilight zone.
Very interesting to read what's happening in different places! I'm in a hot spot and just about everyone here is taking wearing masks and social distancing seriously.

The only rule breakers I very occasionally see are teens/young adults in small groups (like 4-5 people) who don't look like family members but friends hanging out. It's not the norm, though.

Other than that, there is STRONG social pressure to adhere to guidelines. We are in a hot spot and people know that we are protecting each other. Being defiant about the guidelines isn't cool here.

jmo
 
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Very interesting to read what's happening in different places! I'm in a hot spot and just about everyone here is taking wearing masks and social distancing seriously.

The only rule breakers I very occasionally see are teens/young adults in small groups (like 4-5 people) who don't look like family members but friends hanging out. It's not the norm, though.

Other than that, there is STRONG social pressure to adhere to guidelines. We are in a hot spot and people know that we are protecting each other. Being defiant about the guidelines isn't cool here.

jmo


We are not a hotspot at all and hours away from NYC, and we are doing a good job of coexisting and looking out for ourselves and each other here, too. But maybe it's a matter of time. JMO.
 
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I do wonder if people's eating habits affect their ability to evade the illness.

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I'm sure diet does play a role, though I'm no expert. Being overweight seems to be a risk factor.

Not sure if being a vegetarian or meat-eater plays a role or not. A diet of junk food will not serve anyone well, of course.

jmo
 
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I wanted to know if they had A/C or lived in a communal building after hearing that. That's weird to me. What about post (mail) ?

Were they washing there FFV and groceries? Were they going grocery and other shopping (Walmart?) Had they had any visitors? Did they use masks if they went out?
I mentioned this yesterday, but I doubt a/c was a factor as it has not been hot in NYC this spring. A couple of warm days, but not hot. It's 49 degrees as I type this in the morning.

Also, not everyone in apartment buildings share ventilation systems. Older buildings don't have central air or any system like that, but residents install their own window a/c's. Some people live in modern highrises, but much of the housing in NYC predates central air-conditioning.

I'd be interested in knowing what neighborhoods are represented in that statistic as there are differences in how people live depending on neighborhood. My hunch is people were truthfully staying home....but had family members coming and going, like teenage grandkids and/or family members working essential jobs, for example.

jmo
 
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Coronavirus survivors banned from military. How strange.
"During the medical history interview or examination, a history of COVID-19, confirmed by either a laboratory test or a clinician diagnosis, is permanently disqualifying ...” the memo reads.
Coronavirus survivors banned from joining the military
 
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We are not a hotspot at all and hours away from NYC, and we are doing a good job of coexisting and looking out for ourselves and each other here, too. But maybe it's a matter of time. JMO.
Keep it up!

:)

jmo
 
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