Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #54

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"The tulips were blooming in Seoul and Dr. Jerome Kim was strolling in his government-issued KF-94 mask with his wife when he got a text message alerting him to a confirmed coronavirus infection in his neighborhood.
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Kim, who serves as the Director-General of the International Vaccine Institute, clicked on the alert on his phone and it directed him to the municipal site, which detailed the infected individual’s whereabouts over the past several days.

The individual, who was anonymous, had visited a local supermarket on a recent Saturday between 10 a.m. and 10:15 a.m. to buy chilies, which was confirmed with CCTV footage and credit card transaction data, Kim recalled.
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That alert was one of dozens, if not hundreds, that millions of South Koreans have received since the coronavirus arrived in the country on Jan. 20, Kim said. He added that such sharing of information, despite its data privacy implications, has helped to keep the infection rate down even as businesses reopen."


Ugh....I wouldn't like living in that kind of 'transparency.' So everyone that tests positive, their personal business is mass texted to everyone, down to what they bought in the store and when?

Is that really necessary?:eek:

In these parts, someone who have your name figured out in two minutes. I don't mind finding out about the locations, but what they bought, and CCTV cameras makes me queasy.
 
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In these parts, someone who have your name figured out in two minutes. I don't mind finding out about the locations, but what they bought, and CCTV cameras makes me queasy.
I don't know how tracing is going to work in USA. Our culture places such a high value on privacy, I just don't know if people will voluntarily participate in tracing. ?

jmo
 
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My co-worker’s daughter died; the cook at my sister’s restaurant died; and someone from my high school class died.

I am sure there will be others once we hear more.

I know three people who have been ill, one died. He was elderly. The other two were a mother and son, 20 years old. She was severely ill but recovered, the son had mild symptoms. My daughter and her boyfriend think they might have had it --symptoms were cough, shortness of breath and extreme exhaustion for a few days...but no way to tell now. She traveled NYC subway system for weeks before the shutdown. I keep hoping she can somehow get an antibody test........
 
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There have been no cases of COVID-19 associated with ingestion of food, but the question is well-founded. COVID-19 is, after all, caused by a virus which enters the body through the nose or mouth. Food items are, after all, objects which may be contaminated with the virus and placed in the mouth — but like many other viruses, bacteria and parasites, these will be swallowed and most likely destroyed by stomach acids. Should the virus survive into the intestine, there is no pathway which will carry it to the lungs.

Not really. Routine practices of hygiene, storage, cleansing and cooking which are already practiced in commercial shops and restaurants will also help eliminate this virus from our food.

So can you acquire COVID-19 from food?

The bottom line answer is ... no.
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So it seems like the biggest risk of takeout would be handling the packaging IMO. Which is the same risk you take shopping at the supermarket. IMO.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't mind ordering a pizza (haven't yet because we prefer making our own) or Chinese food but I draw the line against foods that are assembled by workers like hamburgers, subway-style sandwiches, etc. I haven't gone into any fast food outlets and if I did the only thing I might possibly buy is french fries and only cooked to order. Don't eat much from fast food joints.

Shopping in the supermarket for veggies is not an issue for me since most veggies are either cooked or washed by me and DH.
 
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My co-worker’s daughter died; the cook at my sister’s restaurant died; and someone from my high school class died.

I am sure there will be others once we hear more.

I know three people who have been ill, one died. He was elderly. The other two were a mother and son, 20 years old. She was severely ill but recovered, the son had mild symptoms. My daughter and her boyfriend think they might have had it --symptoms were cough, shortness of breath and extreme exhaustion for a few days

i wish this was in Florida...... Compared to a couple of weeks ago, so so many less people wearing masks.
...but no way to tell now. She traveled NYC subway system for weeks before the shutdown. I keep hoping she can somehow get an antibody test........
 
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Well, I have not been feeling well this week. Started on Sunday with an attack of acid reflux (woke me up!). I said if I wasn't better today, I'd make a Dr's appt. No appetite, headache, stomach discomfort, some nausea. When I got to Dr, they had me wait outside b/c of the headache symptom. The Dr. called me back in full riot gear. Never saw a nurse at all. B/c of my headache, and low-grade temp (they took it 4 times!) and my job (Home day care provider), the Dr. strongly advised I get tested for Corona. It wasn't as unpleasant as I expected. Got a nasopharyngeal swab and a throat swab. She thinks the two together are most accurate.

Do I think I have Corona? Not really, but how can one know? I don't have any cough or breathing issues. People are frequently presenting with gastric symptoms. So we shall see. The bad part for me: I can't work until the test comes back neg, so lots of people needing to find alternate day care for several days. I also help with a couple of elderly neighbors, so will not be able to do that either :*( Dr. thinks the test results should be back no later than Mon. Til then, I'm isolating in my master bedroom (has attached bath). Still not wanting to eat. I got an RX for Pepcid. Keep me in your prayers.
Hang in there, sally...We care....moo
 
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Is 30 hrs a month normal for you? Or is this more hours, or are you now job sharing with others and have reduced hours?
No very reduced. I had gone to part time about 15 years ago. I typically worked 25 hrs. a week. Some weeks I could work as much as 40 hrs. if folks were in crisis/staff ill or on holiday. I had decided and informed them I was going to retire. Then they came back with this offer. I am and always have been part of a Team. I did my 14 days of Isolation after my March 19th exposure and then took a 30 day leave that was offered to us. So I expect to be back a week today. I'm sure my results will be in well before then.
 
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I was working remotely in my home office this afternoon (the dining room), and heard a lot of beeping horns, so went to the window. Between 30-50 cars went buy driven by K-12 teachers, with signs taped on their cars saying "We miss you! We Love you! Miss Temple", etc. and they were clearly teachers of all the children in the neighborhood. Parents with their children stood in their driveways with their own signs waving, and they waved back and lots of clapping and cheering. Kids ranging from 1st grade to high school. One teacher had a small grade school chair with a teddy bear sitting on it, attached to the roof of her car. Others had family members waving from the sun roof of their car. It was really moving, brought tears to your eyes. It must have meant so much to these school children and their parents, and of course, to the teachers. It is amazing that they organized this event, they must have mapped out the addresses of all their students and arranged to drive through every neighborhood that housed their students in both the local elementary school and high school. And then they must have sent out an email communication to all of the families to join them outside. It was an amazing effort,and showed the dedication and love of these teachers for their students.
 
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My son and two friends are chefs who created a new niche. They rent a kitchen one morning a week to prepare an healthy gourmet meal, including dessert. They drive the meals to pre-announced parts of the city - such as a shopping mall - to sell curb-side. It's the new version of the pop-up restaurant. Today they did service for 108.
 
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Contact tracing is vitally important in fighting the spread of the coronavirus. It helps reduce the growth & spread of viral clusters. People who are notified that they may have come in contact with an infected person can then take precautions and self isolate. While we didn't have a tracing app here in NZ, we had a task force dedicated to mapping out each and every case that came back positive. The notifications went out to those who potentially were exposed. This is another way that we were able to crack down on the virus, reducing community transmission.
 
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Hope you feel better soon Sally. Some of the symptoms you have do sound familiar to me. Aching legs, shoulders and extreme fatigue also featured.

Whatever it is, lots of rest and let your family take care of you.
Thank you, HKP. I really appreciate your input as I know you've been through it.
 
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Contact tracing is vitally important in fighting the spread of the coronavirus. It helps reduce the growth & spread of viral clusters. People who are notified that they may have come in contact with an infected person can then take precautions and self isolate. While we didn't have a tracing app here in NZ, we had a task force dedicated to mapping out each and every case that came back positive. The notifications went out to those who potentially were exposed. This is another way that we were able to crack down on the virus, reducing community transmission.

Canada did that at first, but eventually there were community transmission cases that could not be traced. As long as the numbers are low, it's possible.
 
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Thank you, @Bravo, @CeeCeeCat, @cody22 and all you others for the well-wishes. I do feel very fatigued as well. Not sure if this is because of not eating or if, indeed, it is the virus.
 
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Some weeks ago, I commented that I thought it was a mistake that the government did not shut down 50 states at one time- so the virus could be snuffed out. That's what the models said.

But despite widespread shutdowns in large population states, with generally excellent compliance to social distancing, the virus hasn't been suppressed nearly as fast as predicted. And, it appears that never would have been the case, unless the shutdown was for five months or more. Which realistically was never going to happen.

So I retract that original statement. I'm not sure states like North Dakota or Wyoming should have ever shut down. Maybe only the larger cities in rural states like this. The outbreaks are in different timelines in the various states, which extends the outbreak timeline.

I'm resolved to face the fact that states will all open up and will be living with coronavirus though the fall. The curve has been flattened. No hospitals are overrun. I guess as long as hospitals are not overrun, we will not be going back to shutdowns. There will be no suppression of coronavirus. Peoples behavior has been modified, treatment options show some promise, we are better prepared with protecting the vulnerable, and we have more PPE and testing- not enough, but more than before. Deaths per infection should decrease considerably.

The Massachusetts population is 7,000,000, with 1,000,000 in my age group of 50-59.

150 people in my age group have died. 98.4% had pre-existing conditions, which I don't have. So 2.4 people in my personal bracket have died in Massachusetts. So it seems that I have a 0.00024% chance of dying. 1 in 400,000. Probably much less with a low dose. I have not seen meaningful statistical evidence of permanent COVID-19 damage in healthy people (I completely discount media tales of one-offs in a country of 330 million).

So give it to me now. I'd like a very low dose of coronavirus please, and I'll go quarantine for a couple weeks and be good to go, and most likely safe for others to be near through the outbreak.
 
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Ventura County clarifies claims it would force people from homes into isolated coronavirus centers

New California Virus News.....This contact tracing could get real interesting here in the USA......moo

That's what they did in China! I remember videos where people in space suits were chasing people around to put them in vans and drive them to quarantine centres. People that tested positive but had minor symptoms were very afraid of quarantine centres where they might get a stronger strain or more deadly symptoms.
 
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