Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #54

[sallye818]

Do you have any pepcid? There is a study going on to see if an ingredient in it helps to fight corona virus. Maybe it doesn't, but you have heartburn anyway.

Yep, @jjenny , I already take Protonix and she told me to add the Pepcid to it. Thanks for reminding me about that study!

 

[sallye818]

Sally, I hope you feel better very soon, and that Covid comes nowhere near you. I hope that you are not too sick to laugh, but when I started reading your message, I thought you were going to say you were pregnant. Please keep getting better. Thank you for isolating. Do you have someone to take care of you?

Haha, @musicaljoke, it would be something if I was pregnant. I am 47 and my youngest child is 17. That did make me laugh. I will not tell my husband as I do not think he would find it humorous Speaking of, I was so HAPPY to hear your new grandbaby is healthy and all are fine. What a blessing that the hospital was COVID-free. My sister works in l&d but our hospital has a few hospitalized cases.

Yes, my husband and 3 of my 4 kids live with me. They've been good to me. Wearing masks and leaving food outside my door.

 

[LadyL]

Out of options, a man in Montreal applies for a job to be able to see his elderly mother who is isolated in a long term care home and tested positive for COVID-19. In spite of her having early onset alzheimer's and loss of hearing and vision, she recognizes him, even though he is wearing PPE, she knows it is him, she recognizes his voice and shoulders. A heartwarming account.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/mont...me_daily&sfi=3ed6ee7275a1d53693910f5f869ee324

that's awesome
I wish I could do that for my Dad

 

[MsArk]

Thank you, @Bravo, @CeeCeeCat, @cody22 and all you others for the well-wishes. I do feel very fatigued as well. Not sure if this is because of not eating or if, indeed, it is the virus.

We’ve got you in our prayers, Sallye. Please take good care of yourself and keep us posted. Much love...

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Having trouble finding the original post wrt
UK covid/race/skin tone

But Dr Cambell's youtube video outlines this and several other issues, 'Thursday 7th May, Late Global Update'
(I'm unable to post youtube links from my I pad, maybe Dixie will post it later?)

UK coronavirus: Black people four times more likely to die from Covid-19 than white people, ONS data shows - CNN

Are some ethnic groups more vulnerable to COVID-19 than others?

Coronavirus (COVID-19) related deaths by ethnic group, England and Wales - Office for National Statistics

ETA
Pediatric Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome

NEJM Journal Watch: Summaries of and commentary on original medical and scientific articles from key medical journals

I heard a batcall requesting this to be posted....

 

[Kensie]

This really scares me:
US weekly jobless claims total 3.169 million, bringing seven-week tally to 33.5 million

Many people will not be able to return to work because we have been in lockdown for a long time and our way of doing things has changed. I have no interest in going to a movie theater, church ( I will watch a church service on tv or online because I do benefit from the services), no interest in malls, no interest in concerts, no interest in trains, planes and buses. Good thing I live a boring life and don't have to be entertained. If this had occurred 30 years ago it would have been before the internet and now we have online shopping. I have a lot of concern over the economy and many people will be unemployed for a very long time. It is so scary. I can get most of what I need via online shopping.

 

[10ofRods]

I posted this in the NY thread....

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Until last night’s report, coronavirus fatalities in Suffolk County had been climbing at an average of 28 daily deaths for the past week – about half the previous peak of 62 new deaths reported in early April.

In yesterday’s updated data, New York City reported 298 new deaths, more than twice the 129 deaths reported the previous day. Nassau County reported 75 new deaths in the new data, compared to 29 from the previous day.

The new data represents a 497% increase in fatalities in Suffolk County over the day before, a 158% increase in Nassau County, a 131% increase in New York City and a 314% increase statewide.

It is not clear whether this sharp increase is the result of some kind of retrospective adjustment beyond the explanation of new nursing home deaths provided in the state’s Covid-19 tracker.

Suffolk's coronavirus death toll leaps by 227, New York State's by 952 | RiverheadLOCAL

Thank you so much for that analysis. It's hard for the front line fact gatherers to also do the statistics part - but in a few days, it should be clearer. However unless there was an unreported pool (like a V.A. Hospital or a series of eldercare homes), it seems clear that the deaths are going up. And even if it's due to reporting issues, the underlying facts are the same.

Medical personnel are themselves still becoming ill - at alarming rates. Hospitals need to bring the patient load way way down. Medical personnel need time off. Their stress levels are so high. They are all such brave souls in the first place, to even work in a hospital.

We must bring those important workers some relief. I know that getting one's stuff from the grocery store or Amazon is important too, but front line healthcare is more important right now.

I think people are getting very tired "quarantining" and that our next phase is going to be a disorganized "return to normal" with two main groups of people at odds with each other, perhaps in serious ways (including aggression).

IMO.

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

How did coronavirus get to New Orleans? Scientists scrutinize virus genome for answers
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Genome sequencing has been used in the past to determine how diseases like HIV jumped from different species to humans in Africa. And in New Orleans, it may be able to determine whether or not Mardi Gras brought this disease into the city like many public officials have speculated.
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Right now, the team has sequenced just two of the 100 New Orleans-area samples they intend to sequence. An additional sequence was completed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention with material from Baton Rouge.

All three sequences have indicators that tie them to the U.S. Northwest. Although the researchers say the data are too limited to draw any conclusions on how the virus made it to New Orleans, they were somewhat surprised by the common origin.

“Given Mardi Gras, we expected to see a lot of variation,” said Amy Feehan, a research scientist at Ochsner. “Those were very closely related. Maybe that’s the luck of the draw, but moving forward I would expect to see some that are not so closely related.”
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If the strains continue to match those from the Northwest, it would indicate it was spread by one person infecting many others. That was the case in South Korea, where that country's CDC found that a church group was related to almost 50% of the country’s infections.
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“I don’t think we should pick on Mardi Gras to explain why this virus hit New Orleans any harder than anywhere else,” said Garry, who pointed out that the city’s high number of people living with other diseases could explain why it took off. “But we’ll see. I’m willing to let the data take us in any direction.”

 

[otto]

@musicaljoke, it would be something if I was pregnant. I am 47 and my youngest child is 17. That did make me laugh. I will not tell my husband as I do not think he would find it humorous Speaking of, I was so HAPPY to hear your new grandbaby is healthy and all are fine. What a blessing that the hospital was COVID-free. My sister works in l&d but our hospital has a few hospitalized cases.

Yes, my husband and 3 of my 4 kids live with me. They've been good to me. Wearing masks and leaving food outside my door.

Be thankful. When my son was in quarantine for 2 weeks I wouldn't let him come home. I still only visit at a distance in the front yard. His friends had to bring food because I was self-isolating. At least food is outside your door and you are at home!

 

[katydid23]

This really scares me:
US weekly jobless claims total 3.169 million, bringing seven-week tally to 33.5 million

Many people will not be able to return to work because we have been in lockdown for a long time and our way of doing things has changed. I have no interest in going to a movie theater, church ( I will watch a church service on tv or online because I do benefit from the services), no interest in malls, no interest in concerts, no interest in trains, planes and buses. Good thing I live a boring life and don't have to be entertained. If this had occurred 30 years ago it would have been before the internet and now we have online shopping. I have a lot of concern over the economy and many people will be unemployed for a very long time. It is so scary. I can get most of what I need via online shopping.

Just as we all had to rally and do social distancing and sheltering in place---I think we will also have to UNITE and force ourselves to invest in some local businesses. I will purposely go buy toys for my grand baby and go buy summer clothes for my daughter and I. I will buy take out for a small dinner party in order to help my local family restaurant.

It needs to be done so we can help save what little of the economy that we can.

 

[katydid23]

Great reference, thanks.

What the H-E-(double hockey stick) is going on in Sweden? The models shows they are well past the peak and will suppress in a month.

They are doing much better than Massachusetts, but why? I don't know.

I have been watching them with great interest.

So far, I am impressed. The proof will be in the pudding. When everyone else has that 2nd deadly wave when they come out into the world, what happens in Sweden? I am curious to see.

 

[otto]

Plus they had a president who was still walking around in public kissing babies and nearly half the country lives in poverty.

Mexico has moved to 'Phase 3' — its most serious level of coronavirus alert — and faces a looming outbreak. Here's how it got to this point.

Halfway through reading your link, but it sounds like people were given a pep talk, a bit of cheerleading with inaccurate information. Claims were that the death rate was something like 0.5%, whereas isn't it around 5% in some countries - like Canada and the USA? My impression is that people were misled and in some ways, echo some media from other countries like Brazil - just a flu where most will have no noticeable symptoms, only sick old people have issues - similar to early stories that came out of China.

Mexico has moved to 'Phase 3' — its most serious level of coronavirus alert — and faces a looming outbreak. Here's how it got to this point.

 

[10ofRods]

Addressing a few posts upthread regarding people admitted to hospital with covid, claiming they have self-isolated and haven't left home.

OK....well, something or someone brought that virus into the home. There is no other way in he!! they picked up the disease without contact. It doesn't mysteriously sneak in through a crack in the door......moo!

Unfortunately, many people end up omitting details when they speak to doctors. This is very well known and the rate varies in relationship to the quality of the illness. People who smoke 3 packs a day tell their doctor they smoke 5 cigarettes. This is the kind of thing I study (and train students to study). It's amazing what a patient will tell someone who isn't their doctor - in a different setting.

Plus, we can observe people. The reason China put cameras outside of people's doors is that they were going in and out more than they admitted. Down the hall. To the trash (exuding virion all the way). No air circulation. It's winter. No air movement in communal hallways.

Then, in places like Long Island, people did stay home - except when they went out for religious services, funerals, etc. They were staying home so much more than they usually did, they considered it "quarantine."

Almost no one (except on Websleuths) is reporting perfect isolation - and even, it's just some of us.

One big factor is that people are afraid they will be denied or de-prioritized for healthcare, if they admit they went out of their apartments/houses. That they talked over the fence to a neighbor (let's just admit that 6 feet is a minimum distance - we know virion can travel further than that).

Until all of this is studied and documented in a non-medical, after-the-fact context (with total anonymity), I don't think we can assume large urban areas have most residents staying home *all the time.* Further, on every street, there are essential workers, who pass by and who infect their own families and housemates, so that's another subset.

IOW, people remain unpredictable. Some really try hard to conform and follow rules. Many cover up lack of compliance with fibs. Others flaunt the rules and lie.

And some flaunt the rules and brag about it openly.

 

[weepingangel]

When I saw one of these teacher parades a few weeks? after schools had closed, I was practically bawling. It took me by surprise - the parade and the tears.

I was working remotely in my home office this afternoon (the dining room), and heard a lot of beeping horns, so went to the window. Between 30-50 cars went buy driven by K-12 teachers, with signs taped on their cars saying "We miss you! We Love you! Miss Temple", etc. and they were clearly teachers of all the children in the neighborhood. Parents with their children stood in their driveways with their own signs waving, and they waved back and lots of clapping and cheering. Kids ranging from 1st grade to high school. One teacher had a small grade school chair with a teddy bear sitting on it, attached to the roof of her car. Others had family members waving from the sun roof of their car. It was really moving, brought tears to your eyes. It must have meant so much to these school children and their parents, and of course, to the teachers. It is amazing that they organized this event, they must have mapped out the addresses of all their students and arranged to drive through every neighborhood that housed their students in both the local elementary school and high school. And then they must have sent out an email communication to all of the families to join them outside. It was an amazing effort,and showed the dedication and love of these teachers for their students.

 

[10ofRods]

I was tested yesterday. I am not ill but it's required for me to return to work. I had the throat swab which was not so bad. I had an appt. and I was in and out in about 20 min. Brief medical history. Who I was exposed to back in March. Swab and out the door I went. I agreed to stay on at 30 hrs. a month with a very light case load. Reports I can do in Office or from home. Piece of sanity lol.

Congratulations on getting through the throat swab. And good technique on the part of your employer/health care person.

I'm agreeing to work slightly less, too. But I get to work from home. I wish everyone could adapt in this manner, and my heart goes out to people whose employers are not so enlightened.

 

[Kensie]

Medical personnel are people too, and not all are saints. Know one who took an early retirement rather than a risk.

If I was a medical person and was able to retire, I would jump on the retirement wagon and not take the risk too.

 

[Teche]

Thank you, HKP. I really appreciate your input as I know you've been through it.

Keeping you in my prayers. Be a good patient and take care of yourself.

 

[cody22]

Off-duty officer body slams Walmart shopper irate over face mask rule

Alabama Virus News....moo

 

[Kensie]

I wonder how this is going to affect our education system. Are more people going to home school??? I would hire a tutor for home schooling because I don't have the patience for it. Also what about colleges??? Online colleges have been around a long time. Will fewer students being going off to college?? What about college sports??? This is all so mind boggling and not in a good way.

 

[Kensie]

Off-duty officer body slams Walmart shopper irate over face mask rule

Alabama Virus News....moo

Of course, sounds like Alabama!!! I know from experience.

It was not my city but I think people are running on stressed out nerves these days. I know my anxiety is through the ceiling.

Each day it gets closer to 'safer at home' ends and means going back to the office, my anxiety increases.