Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #55

[cody22]

I suspect we're all on the verge of being stark raving mad, we just don't know it because we don't interact with others who would signal that we're completely nuts or off kilter.

Who, us ...............???????????...........moo

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I've counted about 30 people out walking, walking their dogs, bicycling past my house this afternoon.

No social isolation being practiced. No masks at all.

If people are outside moving by walking or bicycling is it necessary to wear a mask?

 

[cody22]

I've counted about 30 people out walking, walking their dogs, bicycling past my house this afternoon.

No social isolation being practiced. No masks at all.

I too have a hard time getting my dogs to " social distance " and wear their masks while outdoors..............The things those darn dogs will do out in public is outright shameful......moo

 

[robespierre]

Ten Things To Know About Massachusetts' Mask Order That Starts Wednesday

Under an order issued by Gov. Charlie Baker, starting Wednesday, anybody going out in public in Massachusetts will be expected to wear a mask.

So what does that mean for you? Here are some answers to the questions we hear most frequently:

Everyone, and I mean everyone, here has been doing this for two weeks, at least here in Boston. People walking their dogs, or at pharmacy drive-thru, or definitely for sure in supermarkets.

 

[tresir2012]

I live on the 8th floor of an 11 story building. We have 2 elevators and only 2 people are allowed on the elevator at a time. We all wear masks and are very careful. Some of us are in the vulnerable age group. A man on my floor passed away and we cannot find out what he died from. He was elderly and not found right away. Needlessly to say, it is a very stressful situation here. He had not seemed sick a week or so before. Neither our Association or building management have told us anything.

I am in Louisiana and our parish has been hard hit. Our first case of Covid-19 actually came into our parish from another one. Then it just seemed to snowball. We are still on lockdown here and do not know when that will be lifted. I've only been out once and that was to go to the grocery to pick up groceries that I'd ordered online.

Family is spread over different states and we are all over 60, but fortunately none of us have gotten sick with this virus.

I live alone and it is just like groundhog day! If I didn't have my phone and my computer I would be stark raving crazy by now. How are others living alone coping?

I appreciate all posting about how it is in your area. I would have never thought we would be going through something like this!

Clicking on the link below should pull up the Louisiana data from the Worldometers site below which may be useful to follow the stats from around your state.

Louisiana Coronavirus: 31,600 Cases and 2,286 Deaths (COVID-19 ) - Worldometer

 

[WideOpen]

cody22

A big shout out for all the excellent links you provide everyday!

Much appreciated.

Ditto Ditto
@ Cody22
Your contributions are often just the twist of information I needed through this pandemic.
So nice to have you here with your antics, attitudes, and diversions too.
jmo

 

[imstilla.grandma]

When the Kalispel Tribe of Indians closed its casino as the coronavirus took hold in Washington state, it essentially shut down its economy.

That difficult choice has played out nationwide as some 500 Native American casinos have voluntarily closed during the pandemic, often taking away tribes’ main source of income in an effort to protect people’s health in communities with limited medical resources.
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In Oklahoma, many tribal governments that shut down casinos in mid-March kept paying employees. The Cherokee Nation said it’s costing the tribe $30 million to $40 million a month to pay salaries and expenses while casinos and other businesses are shuttered.

In New Mexico, Native American-owned casinos that provide $820 million in annual revenue to 14 tribes have been shut down.
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While corporations or billionaires own casinos in places like Las Vegas, tribes are sovereign nations that operate them under the federal Indian Gaming Regulatory Act of 1988. The law was intended to help impoverished tribes build a sustainable economy.
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In Washington state, the Puyallup Tribe of Indians told members it only has enough money to fund benefits and services through the end of June. The Tacoma-based tribe runs two large casinos, where 85% of employees had been laid off or furloughed.

On the other side of the state, the tiny Kalispel Tribe struggled for decades to eke out a living on the small, isolated reservation near the Idaho border before building the casino to have “some sort of economy,″ Haugen said.
Coronavirus: Shutdown of tribal casinos deals blow to Indian Country

 

[tresir2012]

Sorry my links are so boring.

:-(

Time for bed methinks.

 

[jjenny]

I think that the government was negligent in not advising people to wear masks when the infection was discovered initially in the United States. So people didn't think it was a big deal not to wear one. Then they tell us to wear a mask. We know why they told us not to wear masks (cause they didn't want people to take away masks from hospital workers), but that was clearly the wrong advice and in some ways is unforgivable.

It was worse than that. We were actually advised by authorities in US to not wear masks, and claims were made that general public could not be trusted to wear masks properly and risk of infection would actually increase.

 

[Tillicum]

Sorry my links are so boring.

:-(

Time for bed methinks.

No. Stick around @tresir2012.

 

[ZsaZsa]

The Irish are sending relief to Native Americans, inspired by a donation from a tribe during the Great Famine - CNN

I believe it is over $2.5 million now.
Nice gesture!

 

[LaLaw2000]

Clicking on the link below should pull up the Louisiana data from the Worldometers site below which may be useful to follow the stats from around your state.

Louisiana Coronavirus: 31,600 Cases and 2,286 Deaths (COVID-19 ) - Worldometer

Thanks. I watch the local news and read the local paper. I also keep up with all areas of my state and other states. We have had 25 deaths in our parish. I have a vast view of the city from my 8th floor windows and there's quite a lot of traffic even at night. It just doesn't seem like people are staying home.

Thanks for the link. I will save it.

 

[robespierre]

Every CV-19 denier, every CV-19 truther should be made to read this nightmarish story. (Daily Kos, from a WaPo story. Holy God.)

 

[10ofRods]

So can someone previously asymptomatic become contagious and what makes that happen?

ETA I want to say chicken dinners but will refrain from that.

Short answer: YES.

Second question: No one knows. I don't see even a glimmer of an explanation. All people who test positive should be regarded as contagious.

Most asymptomatic people aren't tested, which is one reason we have no clue. That's why the medical community wants vast numbers of test, or we'll never figure it out.

I think that the government was negligent in not advising people to wear masks when the infection was discovered initially in the United States. So people didn't think it was a big deal not to wear one. Then they tell us to wear a mask. We know why they told us not to wear masks (cause they didn't want people to take away masks from hospital workers), but that was clearly the wrong advice and in some ways is unforgivable.

They're still not mandating it or even close to making a strong recommendation to the states. Only a few states have statewide mandates - and there are reasons. We have counties in California with zero cases. But wait until summer travel starts - those counties are all in lovely places with outdoor recreation.

If people are outside moving by walking or bicycling is it necessary to wear a mask?

I think it depends on the situation.

Right now, I could walk around my block and likely encounter no one. I will cross the street to avoid a face to face encounter, or to avoid being in someone's 'wake.'

Yes, you could get it from someone breathing heavily on a bicycle - so THEY should wear a mask, but of course they don't unless mandated by law or by business policy.

People transmit this disease outside in crowded urban areas, that much is clear. It's not as contagious in that setting as it would be in a closed setting. But some of the people claiming to have self-isolated except for the occasional walk around the block are still getting CoVid in small numbers - in bigger cities.

San Diego found transmission vectors on its crowded outdoor beaches, and some of the patients were not sunbathing - they were moving, walking to the shore and surfing. At least, that's what they think right now - it also seems clear that being outside is much safer than inside.

So it's rare, but if you're in an at risk group, you might want to attempt to protect yourself. Really, it's the asymptomatic carriers who should wear masks, which is why contact tracing and alerts are so important.

 

[10ofRods]

Everyone, and I mean everyone, here has been doing this for two weeks, at least here in Boston. People walking their dogs, or at pharmacy drive-thru, or definitely for sure in supermarkets.

That's so cool. Massachusetts is smart. Not at all the case here in SoCal (except in L.A. County where it is mandated and people are obeying).

 

[robespierre]

A good rule of thumb about wearing a mask is, if you have to ask whether you should wear a mask, yes, wear a mask.

 

[weepingangel]

`I'm never going to be the same': Medics grapple with mental trauma on COVID-19 front line
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Melissa, a nurse at an Indianapolis long-term care facility, recognizes her colleagues’ panic attacks during the COVID-19 pandemic as symptoms of mental trauma. She would know, having been diagnosed and treated for work-induced post-traumatic stress disorder four years ago.

The 48-year-old asked to use her first name because she is concerned about the stigma associated with recovering from post-traumatic stress disorder.

Her colleagues are jittery and easily irritated, Melissa said. One described having heart palpitations on a recent shift. Another has taken disability leave from their facility, unable to work because of panic attacks and grief after losing several patients she loved.

Melissa’s facility serves around 150 patients, about half of whom have contracted the virus, she said.

"It’s like sitting waiting for a bomb to drop,” she said. “You don’t know if you’re going to live, you don’t know if you’re going to die.”

 

[10ofRods]

Every CV-19 denier, every CV-19 truther should be made to read this nightmarish story. (Daily Kos, from a WaPo story. Holy God.)

That story is so sad. If only the blood clot thing had been known when she first got it - known to the actual doctors who treated her.

Although it's not clear that immediate use of heparin or other anti-coagulants is working for this virus.

People who think "it won't be that bad if I get it" should certainly read this. What harrowing story for both this wonderful lady (a nurse) and her family.

 

[LadyL]

I suspect we're all on the verge of being stark raving mad, we just don't know it because we don't interact with others who would signal that we're completely nuts or off kilter.

we're not the ones carrying guns into a supermarket and stopping ambulances from accessing a hospital so I say we are the sane ones

 

[weepingangel]

Castle Rock restaurant reopens in defiance of statewide public health order
Colorado

A Castle Rock restaurant saw big crowds Sunday when it fully reopened for Mother’s Day in open defiance of the statewide public health order that limits restaurants to takeout and delivery services.

Customers packed C&C Coffee and Kitchen on Trail Boss Drive on Sunday, filling the restaurant’s tables, its patio and forming a line out the door for dine-in service.

“It was unbelievable to me,” said Nick Whitehill, who’d ordered food for what he thought would be curbside pickup Sunday.

Whitehill said he was surprised to see the large crowd when he arrived. Wearing a mask, he went inside to try to pick up his order, which he’d already paid for, but left right away, without his food, after realizing that none of the staff were wearing masks and no one inside was practicing social distancing, he said.

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