Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #56

[katydid23]

What are the odds that he caught the virus from an infected 1st responder, then gave it to one or more other 1st responders? But that's ok, right? He's just a hard working citizen.

I'm wasting my time here, that's the way it's become these days. I'll quit while I'm still sane.

I am pretty sure he got it from his job. But I am less sure he was the one that infected any of his first responder clients. I think their jobs, in which they come into contact with potentially infected people all day or night, 5 days a week, make it hard to say where they became infected.

Blaming him seems silly and pointless, in my opinion. One out of 6 officers are testing positive. Very few of them, if any, ever had haircuts from this barber.

 

[katydid23]

BBM

How do they do that? I haven't heard of this. Quarantining people coming in from other countries is the most I have heard of, not States quarantining people driving into their States.

There are/were roadblocks around Gallop NM to turn certain people away, and the Sioux Indian Reservation is using road blocks to protect themselves even though they were ordered to take them down. Local LE really do not want to wade into this one!

Last modified on Thu 14 May 2020 06.32 EDT
South Dakota governor threatens to sue over Sioux's coronavirus roadblocks

A checkpoint operates at the entrance to the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation in South Dakota.

IIRC, some states were blocking cars from New York State , by telling them they had to quarantine for 14 days before they could go anywhere in the state. Was it Florida or Rhode island doing so? I can't remember.

 

[tmar]

California biopharmaceutical company claims coronavirus antibody breakthrough

California biopharmaceutical company claims coronavirus antibody breakthrough

Perry Chiaramonte
6 hrs ago
A California-based biopharmaceutical company claims to have discovered an antibody that could shield the human body from the coronavirus and flush it out of a person’s system within four days, Fox News has exclusively learned.

Later Friday, Sorrento Therapeutics will announce their discovery of the STI-1499 antibody, which the San Diego company said can provide "100% inhibition" of COVID-19, adding that a treatment could be available months before a vaccine hits the market.

"We want to emphasize there is a cure. There is a solution that works 100 percent," Dr. Henry Ji, founder and CEO of Sorrento Therapeutics, told Fox News. "If we have the neutralizing antibody in your body, you don't need the social distancing. You can open up a society without fear."
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"When the antibody prevents a virus from entering a human cell, the virus cannot survive," Dr. Ji said. "If they cannot get into the cell, they cannot replicate. So it means that if we prevent the virus from getting the cell, the virus eventually dies out. The body clears out that virus."

"This puts its arms around the virus. It wraps around the virus and moves them out of the body."

 

[firebird]

My solution is to follow, or at least attempt to follow, the so-called guidelines that were introduced in a news conference not more than a month ago. TWO WEEKS OF DECLINE BEFORE RE-OPENING. There are only a handful of states where that is true. Some states not only don't have 2 weeks of decline, they're still Increasing in cases and deaths.

Again, whatever. I'm not going to change a fraction of the minds that are already made up on this. I still tend to believe in one thing. THE VIRUS! The virus is still spreading, the virus is still capable of spreading more rapidly, and the virus does not care about the economy or who it infects, though it does seem to pack more of a punch with some people.

The push to re-open is primarily political, and so that is why many minds are made up. Which is not to say that some are not in financial need, but to some, it's worth the sacrifice of 1,000+ each day, so that we can say the economy is functioning. Which it won't, because too many will be rightfully scared since the virus has in no way been truly contained(not eliminated), since we basically gave up on that.

Arizona is 23rd on the "death list" and has less than 500 confirmed deaths for more than 7.279 million people. That means there are 22 states who have even fewer deaths than that. Imo, the push to close and stay closed is irrational. That few number of deaths in 23 states absolutely does not justify completely destroying their economies. jmo

 

[katydid23]

The curve is Not Flattened when over 1,000 are dying each day. Flattening the curve at a high level of deaths and virus spread was not the goal.

But whatever, so many people have been right so far, while those of us talking gibberish have been so so wrong, that it's obviously a complete waste of time for us to continue explaining. Go ahead and open, and enjoy your life. Many of us, and I do mean Many, won't be participating. And eventually.....perhaps.....some will realize that you can run a functioning economy, when people are scared of contracting a deadly virus, that is very much alive and well and spreading nationwide and worldwide. We shall see, and then the goalposts can be moved by those who were wrong yet again.

It would be nice if we could discuss this civilly. it is important to hash these things out.

What is your plan to avoid these deaths? How do you see a way around it? I seriously and sincerely want to understand.

The Mayor of my city, Los Angeles, wants the city to stay on lockdown for 3 more months. How does he expect people to be able to afford to do that, financially, mentally, physically and spiritually?

How does he expect our city and our small and large businesses to be able to withstand that?

Do you think it is possible for a large city to stay shut down for 6 months and not experience total economic devastation?

And then what? Won't people have to come outside eventually? Won't the deaths start up again as before?

 

[tmar]

Statins may help older coronavirus patients avoid symptoms; COVID-19 more than respiratory illness

Statins may help older coronavirus patients avoid symptoms; COVID-19 more than respiratory illness

By Nancy Lapid
4 hrs ago
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Statins may help protect frail older people from severe COVID-19 symptoms

Widely-used cholesterol-lowering statin drugs may be associated with substantially fewer symptoms in older, frail COVID-19 patients, a small study suggests. Among 154 coronavirus patients at two nursing homes, those who took a statin, such as Lipitor, were nearly three times more likely to be free of symptoms during their infection than those who did not, researchers in Belgium found. There was also slight trend toward lower risks for lengthy hospital stays and death that was not statistically significant.
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The desperate need of severely ill coronavirus patients for mechanical ventilators to help them breathe had led many people to think of COVID-19 primarily as a respiratory disease, at least in adults. But among nearly 5,500 coronavirus patients in the largest New York health system, more than one in three hospitalized COVID-19 patients developed acute kidney injuries, and nearly 15% required dialysis, researchers reported on Thursday in the medical journal Kidney International. Other research teams have reported that the virus can infect cells in the small intestine. And on Wednesday, researchers reported in The New England Journal of Medicine that autopsies of 27 people who died of COVID-19 showed the virus in tissues of 17 hearts, 17 livers, 8 brains and the kidneys of 13 people. There have also been reports of the virus causing blood clots that can lead to strokes. ( https://bit.ly/3fYw9o3 https://bit.ly/2Z6KXLe)

 

[ilovewings]

He has a point. We know this is happening in all the numbers right? We need to know the split. Those dying due to CV and those dying with CV.

pure cv deaths? that is ridiculous! how do you possibly cta

He has a point. We know this is happening in all the numbers right? We need to know the split. Those dying due to CV and those dying with CV.

The concept of "pure coronavirus is absurd"-- it is splitting hairs to try and separate "those dying due to CV" and "those dying with Coronavirus". IMO all of those deaths are people who would still be alive but for CV; many of them had co-morbidities, but they were living just fine with their diabetes, obesity, COPD, etc etc etc. Had they not contracted the virus they would still be on this erth. There is no doubt in my mind 99.9 of those people died due to the virus and of course they died with it. I don't get the point at all.

 

[katydid23]

My solution is to follow, or at least attempt to follow, the so-called guidelines that were introduced in a news conference not more than a month ago. TWO WEEKS OF DECLINE BEFORE RE-OPENING. There are only a handful of states where that is true. Some states not only don't have 2 weeks of decline, they're still Increasing in cases and deaths.

Again, whatever. I'm not going to change a fraction of the minds that are already made up on this. I still tend to believe in one thing. THE VIRUS! The virus is still spreading, the virus is still capable of spreading more rapidly, and the virus does not care about the economy or who it infects, though it does seem to pack more of a punch with some people.

The push to re-open is primarily political, and so that is why many minds are made up. Which is not to say that some are not in financial need, but to some, it's worth the sacrifice of 1,000+ each day, so that we can say the economy is functioning. Which it won't, because too many will be rightfully scared since the virus has in no way been truly contained(not eliminated), since we basically gave up on that.

Many of those states increasing in new cases are doing so because of increased testing.

 

[katydid23]

Statins may help older coronavirus patients avoid symptoms; COVID-19 more than respiratory illness

Statins may help older coronavirus patients avoid symptoms; COVID-19 more than respiratory illness

By Nancy Lapid
4 hrs ago
...
Statins may help protect frail older people from severe COVID-19 symptoms

Widely-used cholesterol-lowering statin drugs may be associated with substantially fewer symptoms in older, frail COVID-19 patients, a small study suggests. Among 154 coronavirus patients at two nursing homes, those who took a statin, such as Lipitor, were nearly three times more likely to be free of symptoms during their infection than those who did not, researchers in Belgium found. There was also slight trend toward lower risks for lengthy hospital stays and death that was not statistically significant.
...
The desperate need of severely ill coronavirus patients for mechanical ventilators to help them breathe had led many people to think of COVID-19 primarily as a respiratory disease, at least in adults. But among nearly 5,500 coronavirus patients in the largest New York health system, more than one in three hospitalized COVID-19 patients developed acute kidney injuries, and nearly 15% required dialysis, researchers reported on Thursday in the medical journal Kidney International. Other research teams have reported that the virus can infect cells in the small intestine. And on Wednesday, researchers reported in The New England Journal of Medicine that autopsies of 27 people who died of COVID-19 showed the virus in tissues of 17 hearts, 17 livers, 8 brains and the kidneys of 13 people. There have also been reports of the virus causing blood clots that can lead to strokes. ( https://bit.ly/3fYw9o3 https://bit.ly/2Z6KXLe)

Thank Goodness---I have been taking one for 2 years now. I better refill my prescription now.

 

[tmar]

Sailors on sidelined carrier get coronavirus for the second time

Sailors on sidelined carrier get coronavirus for the second time

1 hour ago
Five US sailors on an aircraft carrier sidelined in Guam due to a COVID-19 outbreak have tested positive for the virus for the second time and have been taken off the ship, according to the US Navy.

The resurgence of the virus in five sailors on the USS Theodore Roosevelt underscores the befuddling behaviour of the highly contagious virus and raises questions about how troops that test positive can be reintegrated into the military, particularly on ships.

All five sailors had previously tested positive and had gone through at least two weeks of isolation.

As part of the process, they all had to test negative twice in a row, with the tests separated by a day or two, before they were allowed to go back to the ship.

 

[katydid23]

pure cv deaths? that is ridiculous! how do you possibly cta


The concept of "pure coronavirus is absurd"-- it is splitting hairs to try and separate "those dying due to CV" and "those dying with Coronavirus". IMO all of those deaths are people who would still be alive but for CV; many of them had co-morbidities, but they were living just fine with their diabetes, obesity, COPD, etc etc etc. Had they not contracted the virus they would still be on this erth. There is no doubt in my mind 99.9 of those people died due to the virus and of course they died with it. I don't get the point at all.

We don't know that. Diabetes, Obesity, Asthma, COPD---all by themselves, are responsible for many deaths. COPD is very serious:

Is COPD a fatal disease?
Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) refers to a collection of lung diseases that can lead to blocked airways. ... For those living with COPD, every breath can be difficult. People with COPD can be at risk for serious complications that can not only put their health in jeopardy, but also be fatal.Nov 5, 2018

Recognizing Serious COPD Complications - Healthline
www.healthline.com › health › serious-complications

 

[tmar]

Donald Trump says America's coronavirus curve is flattening but a second wave is coming for rural communities

Donald Trump says America's coronavirus curve is flattening but a second wave is coming for rural communities

By Emily Olson
4 hrs ago

Cuthbert is the kind of place where social distancing was practiced well before it became a buzzword.

Tucked away in a quiet, empty corner of south-west Georgia, the town has one traffic light, two grocery stores and a dozen churches. There are zero skyscrapers or subway cars or international airports.
So, when Cuthbert's 3,000 residents first learned about coronavirus — visualised as maps with big red circles around America's urban centres — they thought to themselves, "surely that sort of thing could never happen here".

Cuthbert had the highest death rate per-capita in the US
At the time of writing, Cuthbert and the surrounding Randolph County (total population: 6,700) reported 169 confirmed cases and 21 deaths.

 

[tmar]

Most US states fall short of recommended testing levels

Most US states fall short of recommended testing levels

By MATTHEW PERRONE, BRIAN WITTE and NICKY FORSTER, Associated Press
18 hrs ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — As businesses reopened Friday in more of the U.S., an overwhelming majority of states still fall short of the COVID-19 testing levels that public health experts say are necessary to safely ease lockdowns and avoid another deadly wave of outbreaks, according to an Associated Press analysis.
Rapid, widespread testing is considered essential to tracking and containing the coronavirus. But 41 of the nation's 50 states fail to test widely enough to drive their infections below a key benchmark, according to an AP analysis of metrics developed by Harvard’s Global Health Institute.

Among the states falling short are Texas and Georgia, which recently moved aggressively to reopen stores, malls, barbershops and other businesses.

As health authorities expand testing to more people, the number of positive results should shrink compared with the total number of people tested. The World Health Organization and other health researchers have said a percentage above 10% indicates inadequate testing. South Korea, a country praised for its rapid response, quickly pushed its positive cases to below 3%.
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Researchers at Harvard University have calculated that the U.S. needs to test a minimum of 900,000 people per day to safely reopen the economy, based on the 10% positivity rate and several other key metrics. That goal is nearly three times the country’s current daily testing tally of about 360,000, according to figures compiled by the COVID Tracking Project website.

“The fact that testing has become the Achilles’ heel that has made it hard for us to have a great national response to this pandemic is a tragedy,” said Dr. Ashish Jha, director of Harvard’s Global Health Institute. “I’d like us to have a massive amount of ubiquitous testing so that, of all the things we need to worry about, testing isn’t one of them.”

 

[katydid23]

Tennessee, one of the first states to reopen restaurants and retail stores, has seen the biggest drop in new cases in the nation, down nearly 49%.
Where U.S. coronavirus cases are on the rise

 

[tmar]

Coronavirus Might Become An Endemic. But What Does That Mean?

Coronavirus Might Become An Endemic. But What Does That Mean?

Elizabeth Gulino
11 hrs ago
COVID-19 is currently classified as a pandemic, which is defined by the World Health Organization as the worldwide spread of a new disease. You’re probably familiar with this term by now — it’s been used everywhere since March. But its status might change again. If eventually, the virus could become what’s known as endemic.

“This virus just may become another endemic virus in our communities and this virus may never go away. HIV hasn’t gone away,” said Dr. Michael Ryan, executive director of the World Health Organization’s health emergencies program, during a media briefing. “I’m not comparing the two diseases, but I think it is important that we’re realistic. I don’t think anyone can predict when or if this disease will disappear,” Dr. Ryan said, according to CNN.

When coronavirus first emerged as a major outbreak, it was labeled an “epidemic.” The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention defines that term as “an increase, often sudden, in the number of cases of a disease above what is normally expected in that population in that area.” A short while later, COVID-19 officially became a pandemic. That’s more serious, because it indicates that the illness has spread over several countries or continents, affecting a large number of people.

An endemic is “the constant presence and/or usual prevalence of a disease or infectious agent in a population within a geographic area,” reports the CDC. So if coronavirus stuck around in a certain area, it could be considered endemic there. Other endemics include HIV, chicken pox, and in some areas of Africa, malaria. They’re always present in a certain population or region, but not necessarily at high levels — in some cases, endemic diseases are rare.

 

[tmar]

Be kind!

Be kind!

Henry Blodget, David Plotz
5 hrs ago

Be kind. We're all doing the best we can.

 

[tresir2012]

LOSING TRACK OF THE DAYS THE CORONA WAY....
"Commuting" in Corona times:

Fun Maps: Commuting in Corona Times by Kera Hill

This is what retirement under lockdown is like too. Losing track of the days.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Don't forget about this tonight.

 

[tresir2012]

I love his creativity. "They said I could work from home." What did I do wrong?

I think he is deliberately misunderstanding. Working home alone is the secret.

 

[24Roses]

Iowa news yesterday and today: Gov. Reynolds Says TestIowa Results Validated for COVID-19 Testing
Source confirms Iowa's first PMIS case, mystery illness in children connected to COVID-19
U. Iowa researchers project hundreds more COVID-19 deaths
IDPH data shows Iowa’s COVID-19 hospitalizations have flattened