Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #59

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That's great @Niner - Hmm I can see the straw through the opening but who wants to drink wine through a straw - LOL. and I was the one who went on a cruise March 13 - you've all educated me greatly - staying home and staying safe..so far so good.
JMO

Yeah let’s not talk about that friend :D

Glad you came back around. Peace and hugs. I know I was very hard on you.
 
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Yeah let’s not talk about that friend :D

Glad you came back around. Peace and hugs. I know I was very hard on you.
No worries @margarita25 good to know you cared enough.. knowing what I now know I can only say I'm glad they took temps and the ship was about 20% and mine was the last to sail. lesson learned.
JMO
 
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No worries @margarita25 good to know you cared enough.. knowing what I now know I can only say I'm glad they took temps and the ship was about 20% and mine was the last to sail. lesson learned.
JMO

Thank heavens you didn't get sick on the cruise!
 
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Antibody tests used to determine if people have been infected in the past with Covid-19 might be wrong up to half the time, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said in new guidance posted on its website.

Antibody tests for Covid-19 wrong half the time, CDC says - CNN

Well, we're screwed. Antibody testing is useless.

However-

From the CDC- A key CDC priority is to track COVID-19 infections to determine how much of the U.S. population is infected over time. CDC uses a variety of surveillance systems to track COVID-19 cases based on people who seek medical care. However, these systems can miss infections that occur in people who had mild or asymptomatic illness (i.e., no signs or symptoms) who did not seek medical care or get tested.

By using seroprevalence surveys, CDC can learn about the total number of people that have been infected, including those infections that might have been missed. These surveys also can help estimate how much of the population has not yet been infected, helping public health officials plan for future healthcare needs. These surveys can also track how infections progress through the population over time. This is done by taking “snap shots” of the percentage of people who have antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 (also called the seroprevalence) at different time points.


Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

Weird how the CDC uses antibody testing in extensive research and forecasting. They are stupid.

Unless CNN has intentionally misrepresented the CDC words.

The CDC said- For example, in a population where the prevalence is 5%, a test with 90% sensitivity and 95% specificity will yield a positive predictive value of 49%. In other words, less than half of those testing positive will truly have antibodies.

Does this antibody test exist? I doubt it. This is what is called an "example". This is often used to make a point on the importance of certain parameters.

My Quest Diagnostics antibody test had 90-100% (?) sensitivity and > 99% specificity. I understand this to give a 1% false positive reading in a state where 13% of the population is believed to be infected (Imperial College). So I might get an actual false positive around 7% of the time. Incredibly useful to me and the CDC, and a far more accurate result can be obtained with a second test using different serology.

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This WS forum has be very therapeutic to me trying to sort out the effects of COVID-19. I appreciate the polite back and forth, and challenging of assertions and data. It seems there are two thought processes on coronavirus and I am obviously on one side, the non-alarmist side. I'd like to believe that I am fact-based, but maybe I have biases that I don't see. At this point, I'm kind of exhausted by it and am going to check out. Stay safe my friends!

Anyway, there must be some sleuthing needed in Colorado.

There always is.

This video with Dr. Seheult shows how dramatically, COVID is so different from the flu. The research he presents is excellent. Journal of New England Medicine, and Science articles. We are getting closer to understanding what is really happening as the virus hits the epithelium of the cells...
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Meat processing. Looks like we may have a problem.

From the link:

“State officials were asked about their unwillingness to voluntarily report outbreaks at meatpacking facilities. It has continually taken reporters asking about outbreaks for the state to be forthcoming about that information.

Officials said they have been contacting employees affected, but have no plans to start releasing those numbers, and reporters are going to have to keep asking.”
 
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This video with Dr. Seheult shows how dramatically, COVID is so different from the flu. The research he presents is excellent. Journal of New England Medicine, and Science articles. We are getting closer to understanding what is really happening as the virus hits the epithelium of the cells...
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I have a bias against watching long videos, due in part to hearing loss and a personal preference for reading instead of hearing information. Also, probably just plain old impatience. So I've missed watching most of the videos posted in this forum. My loss, I think!

That said, I played this video (skipped through a bit) and there was some very interesting stuff in there. Will check out the articles cited. I used closed captions and was amused by all the ways the caption generator tried to spell COVID!
 
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I have a bias against watching long videos, due in part to hearing loss and a personal preference for reading instead of hearing information. Also, probably just plain old impatience. So I've missed watching most of the videos posted in this forum. My loss, I think!

That said, I played this video (skipped through a bit) and there was some very interesting stuff in there. Will check out the articles cited. I used closed captions and was amused by all the ways the caption generator tried to spell COVID!

I have video A.D.D. so I too have missed out on video content.

I have such a huge “academic crush” on Dr. Mike though, so I’m quite happy to watch the WHO conferences lol.
 
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Meat processing. Looks like we may have a problem.

Do we know why information about these meat processing facility outbreaks is hard to come by?
 
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The "article" is from the Alabama Political Reporter - which I doubt qualifes as msm. And the "data" that the article is based on, not surprisingly, is compiled by volunteers with an agenda.

Totally unreliable. And that's generous, imo.



https://covidtracking.com/

Do you have a link to what the agenda is for the volunteers compiling this info?

I like to keep track of people putting info in the public realm with an unhelpful agenda and those that look for true facts. It helps to keep things straight imo. Or is this an opinion?
 
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Do you have a link to what the agenda is for the volunteers compiling this info?

I like to keep track of people putting info in the public realm with an unhelpful agenda and those that look for true facts. It helps to keep things straight imo. Or is this an opinion?

The link is in my post.

Also, as I mentioned, I don't think the article in the OP where the link appears is msm. So probably shouldn't be here in the first place, imo. But that's up to the mods, of course.
 
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The link is in my post.

Also, as I mentioned, I don't think the link is msm. So probably shouldn't be here in the first place, imo. But that's up to the mods, of course.

I saw and read the link, but I don't see anything about their agenda.
 
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Do we know why information about these meat processing facility outbreaks is hard to come by?
Two words: Meat Lobby.
 
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