Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #59

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  • #321
We go to Destin every summer but after seeing pictures from friends out on the beach for Memorial Day weekend, no way would I enter Florida.
The sand/water is beautiful in that area.
We plan on going but will head to one without the high rise hotels and endless commercial places. Plan on cooking own food so don’t need a restaurant.
 
  • #322
Great Clips hair stylist's attorney speaks out after mass COVID-19 exposure

“Less than a week after she was sent home for allergies, Robb adds, she felt like her sense of smell and taste wasn't normal and called the health department.

"She did not go to work the day she had called the health department, that is a matter of fact," Robb said, "Then, she went to the health department the next day to get a test."

But then the stylist, while waiting for the test results, went back to work.”

:(

Great Clips where coronavirus-infected stylists worked closes after threats
 
  • #323
Great Clips hair stylist's attorney speaks out after mass COVID-19 exposure

“Less than a week after she was sent home for allergies, Robb adds, she felt like her sense of smell and taste wasn't normal and called the health department.

"She did not go to work the day she had called the health department, that is a matter of fact," Robb said, "Then, she went to the health department the next day to get a test."

But then the stylist, while waiting for the test results, went back to work.”

:(

Great Clips where coronavirus-infected stylists worked closes after threats

Exactly like Senator Rand Paul. He was tested, because he had been exposed, and then went to the Senate anyway. Including using the gym to work out prior to going to his office.
 
  • #324
Yesterday's US death toll from CoVid was just over 1200, the day before it was 1500. Rolling averages are probably the better way to understand this data, since over the holiday weekend, many counties did not report, causing a bump up in reported stats for Tuesday and Wednesday. However, Thursday's number (1200) is probably close to a reported daily death total.

We had gone as low as 600-700 reported deaths nationwide just before Memorial Day and it's too soon for Memorial Day to be a big factor in those numbers. It is not too soon for community transmission to go up, especially in places where people are not wearing masks.

Pennsylvania and Illinois surpassed New York yesterday in terms of numbers of deaths. In Florida, studies of CV19 in wastewater show far more evidence of the virus than anticipated, leading researchers to believe that the excess deaths in Florida this year put the actual death toll in Florida much higher than reported. An estimate of excess deaths in NYC shows an additional possible 5000 deaths through May 2, which is lower than some anticipated. Some factors may include lack of rapid response to life threatening conditions within the NYC medical system, including EMT work.

If the US settles into a long tail of CV19 (so far, that's what's happening) and the average number of deaths per day is 1000, then by end of June, we'll have nearly 150,000 deaths, putting us higher in the per capita ranks of CoVid deaths than Ireland or possibly Sweden. However, Sweden and UK continue to climb in overall death rates from CoVid, while Spain is finally slowing considerably, as is Belgium, although it's certainly not the case that those nations have CoVid under control. But it is slowing down in Spain and Belgium. Spain is reopening.

Currently, nations like France are opening their borders to certain permitted forms of international travel, but only within the EU. The NYTimes published a piece by reporters who tried to travel around Europe and it was sobering.

Will the EU allow the US and UK to travel within it, any time soon? Probably not. Will Canada and Mexico permit Americans to travel within their borders? Stay tuned. Right now, both UK and USA are pretty much excluded from much international travel, and some US states still have 14-day self-quarantines, with controls at their borders (like Arizona).

I think the US needs to get its daily death tolls below 500 for a while before other nations are going to let us travel. China faces the loss of control over three major ports (in Israel, Sri Lanka and Australia) as those nations may prohibit ships from China landing within their ports. Some nations may want the US to be nearly CoVid free (I'm guessing Australia and New Zealand are not going to want visitors from the US or the EU or UK for a while).

Las Vegas opens next week and is already seeing an uptick in people out and about. CoVid cases and death counts in Nevada are low (helps to only have 3 million people, but about 75% live in Las Vegas, with another bunch near Reno/Tahoe). Nevada has about 410 total deaths so far and will obviously become a kind of test case about indoor transmission of CoVid in air conditioned spaces. Many distancing measures are supposed to be in place in casinos. Those 410 deaths constitute a much higher per capita rate than in neighboring states, so far. Utah, for example, only has 106. Utah and Nevada have similar total populations.

For whatever reason, projections for Arizona show that they are still on the upward slope of CoVid, with their peak projected sometime in July. CoVid has only just started to take hold as a community transmitted disease in the bigger cities there (not so much in northern Arizona). Again, we see A/C and recirculated area, large numbers of elderly people, etc. playing a big role.

Meanwhile, farmworkers may join packing plant workers as populations with high rates of CoVid.
 
  • #325
Over 1,000 Coronavirus Deaths in Brazil for the Third Straight Day (May 28th) | The Rio Times

RIO DE JANEIRO, BRAZIL - Brazil currently counts 26,754 deaths and 438,238 confirmed cases of coronavirus. There were a further 26,417 positive tests in 24 hours, a record since the first case. There were 1,156 more Covid-19 victims in one day.

This is the third straight day in which deaths have exceeded the 1,000 cases mark. The data were updated by the Ministry of Health on Thursday, May 28th.
 
  • #326
Not sure how to feel and I need advice. My daughter and I are on again , off again. She calls me today and says can we have lunch tomorrow?? I tell her that we are in a safer at home order until 7/3. She then states that she really needs to talk to me in person. I told her that I would go to her house on Saturday. I don't mind seeing her at all and am glad that she called but I am not sure how proactive she has been isolating with this virus. I am full of mixed emotions. What do you think???? I will more than likely go because I have not seen her in months. I guess we could sit outside and talk weather permitting. On a side note, my son leaves DC on Saturday. I just hope he can drive the U-Haul 15 hours without having to spend the night anyplace .

On another note, my state is seeing more and more cases.
Alabama Department of Public Health is ‘extraordinarily concerned’ over spike in COVID-19 cases

I read a study yesterday that says masks are very effective at preventing person-to-person transmission within households/homes. About 75% effective. I posted a set of guidelines last week about how long it takes to get enough virions, on average, through conversation without a mask (10-15 minutes is average if you are face to face at about 3-4 feet apart). 50 minutes if you're 6 feet apart, unprotected. Something like that, anyway.

SO, if you wear a mask and sunglasses (I'm going to get some very light colored ones for instances like you're describing), wash your hands, etc., and stay 6 feet apart from your daughter, I think you're not taking a huge risk. If you stay outside the house the whole time...I think you'd be putting yourself in a very low risk situation (6-8 feet apart outdoors, stay upwind of her, obviously). I have the same issue with my younger daughter. While she's tried to be good about social distancing, her husband is an essential worker and has been working at rearranging facilities inside a CoVid-treating hospital.

So put a time limit on your conversation, meet outside, both of you wear masks...that's what I would do. If it's going to make you super anxious, though, only you know that and I wouldn't do it in that case. You'd spend a week worrying about it afterwards. If you are going to remove your mask to eat, be sure to sanitize your hands before touching it and have a bag (preferably paper, I'm reading) to put it in. If you end up going to an outdoor restaurant, you probably can't be 6 feet apart, but I'd wear my mask as much of that time as possible and cut the time in that setting down. All of this is presuming you consider yourself to be in the at-risk population, as am I.

If Son does have to stay overnight someplace, please remind him to wear his mask inside the hotel and to avoid the A/C as much as possible. This whole thing sucks so bad.
 
  • #327
South Korea schools: Hundreds close again after reopening - CNN

Seoul (CNN)More than 500 schools closed again Friday to students after briefly reopening, as South Korea moves to stamp out a resurgence of the coronavirus in the capital, Seoul, and its surrounding metropolitan area.

Parks, art galleries, museums and theaters operated by the government in the Seoul metropolitan area -- home to about half the country's population of nearly 52 million -- have also been closed to the public for the next two weeks.
Government hosted events in the metropolitan area will be canceled or postponed as well, Health Minister Park Neung-hoo said Thursday. The authorities have recommended that private academies and internet cafes there close too until June 14.
Park also asked people living in the Seoul metropolitan area to refrain from going outside or holding events for the next fortnight.
 
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South Korea schools: Hundreds close again after reopening - CNN

Seoul (CNN)More than 500 schools closed again Friday to students after briefly reopening, as South Korea moves to stamp out a resurgence of the coronavirus in the capital, Seoul, and its surrounding metropolitan area.

Parks, art galleries, museums and theaters operated by the government in the Seoul metropolitan area -- home to about half the country's population of nearly 52 million -- have also been closed to the public for the next two weeks.
Government hosted events in the metropolitan area will be canceled or postponed as well, Health Minister Park Neung-hoo said Thursday. The authorities have recommended that private academies and internet cafes there close too until June 14.
Park also asked people living in the Seoul metropolitan area to refrain from going outside or holding events for the next fortnight.

Luckily that won't happen here, because we're special, and a much stronger country than South Korea. We'll tough it out.
 
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Brazil's just getting warmed up. Soon they'll look back on 1,000 deaths a day as a good day.
It's like watching a slow motion train wreck.
 
  • #332
This quote reminds me of the Russian fighter in Rocky 4 when he says about Appollo Creed, "if he dies, he dies!"


"The infection will take its toll and we'll all get it," he also said. "Those meant to die will die. Everyone dies."

Russia's head of coronavirus information says alarm over the virus is 'bullsh-t'
And Dame Joan Collins when asked about her hubby who was 32 years younger. "If he dies, he dies."

Joan Collins, 85, looks ageless in a floral blazer and white pencil dress as she dines with husband Percy Gibson, 53, at LA hotspot
 
  • #333
Massachusetts
Rutland Police officer John D. Songy succumbs to coronavirus battle at St. Vincent Hospital
Rutland Police officer John D. Songy passed away at St. Vincent Hospital in Worcester early Friday morning after a long battle with COVID-19, his wife Joanne posted to Facebook.
The 48-year-old detective succumbed to the coronavirus while on a ventilator in critical condition

200th patient discharged from St. Vincent Hospital after fighting COVID-19
– Cathy Soto, 33, of Leominster, was the 200th patient discharged from St. Vincent Hospital after fighting COVID-19.
 
  • #334
well..this is oodles of info. I have felt that golf courses have done better than many reopening establishments. Golfers usually have little towels stuffed in their bags.... I would think a couple of those towels, and hand sanitizer will do the trick. However, why no masks?
Maybe because they are outside and social distancing is easy.
 
  • #335
Minneapolis/St. Paul here. Yes. There is/will be a connection to COVID-19. I can only imagine the violent protests (thousands) and spread of this disease. Then, too, LE from Minneapolis and St. Paul, firefighters Minneapolis/St. Paul, and the National Guard are expected in the midst of things. Just think how many people are involved!

Minnesota is in the process of reopening - gonna be delayed for sure, assuming there is much left intact in the Twin Cities. All Targets are closed, for example. While I don't know the count in Minneapolis, 170 buildings were damaged in St. Paul.

Fortunately, I live in a suburb. (Target also closed in suburbs.) Not going near Minneapolis/St. Paul and not all because of violence but because this is fertile grounds for COVID-19 spread.
 
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From the link (BBM):
"She [the author] wears hers [mask] inside and outside, especially if she's walking outdoors in a place where she can see other people. She tells people to imagine how far they can smell cigarette smoke or a barbecue. That's how far aerosols can travel between you and another person.

The good news, she says, is that recent studies have shown that homemade cloth masks can be as effective at blocking the virus as surgical masks. There's one big caveat, though. They have to fit to your face."

I can smell smoke and barbecue a LONG way away...sigh.
 
  • #337
Yesterday's US death toll from CoVid was just over 1200, the day before it was 1500. Rolling averages are probably the better way to understand this data, since over the holiday weekend, many counties did not report, causing a bump up in reported stats for Tuesday and Wednesday. However, Thursday's number (1200) is probably close to a reported daily death total.

We had gone as low as 600-700 reported deaths nationwide just before Memorial Day and it's too soon for Memorial Day to be a big factor in those numbers. It is not too soon for community transmission to go up, especially in places where people are not wearing masks.

Pennsylvania and Illinois surpassed New York yesterday in terms of numbers of deaths. In Florida, studies of CV19 in wastewater show far more evidence of the virus than anticipated, leading researchers to believe that the excess deaths in Florida this year put the actual death toll in Florida much higher than reported. An estimate of excess deaths in NYC shows an additional possible 5000 deaths through May 2, which is lower than some anticipated. Some factors may include lack of rapid response to life threatening conditions within the NYC medical system, including EMT work.

If the US settles into a long tail of CV19 (so far, that's what's happening) and the average number of deaths per day is 1000, then by end of June, we'll have nearly 150,000 deaths, putting us higher in the per capita ranks of CoVid deaths than Ireland or possibly Sweden. However, Sweden and UK continue to climb in overall death rates from CoVid, while Spain is finally slowing considerably, as is Belgium, although it's certainly not the case that those nations have CoVid under control. But it is slowing down in Spain and Belgium. Spain is reopening.

Currently, nations like France are opening their borders to certain permitted forms of international travel, but only within the EU. The NYTimes published a piece by reporters who tried to travel around Europe and it was sobering.

Will the EU allow the US and UK to travel within it, any time soon? Probably not. Will Canada and Mexico permit Americans to travel within their borders? Stay tuned. Right now, both UK and USA are pretty much excluded from much international travel, and some US states still have 14-day self-quarantines, with controls at their borders (like Arizona).

I think the US needs to get its daily death tolls below 500 for a while before other nations are going to let us travel. China faces the loss of control over three major ports (in Israel, Sri Lanka and Australia) as those nations may prohibit ships from China landing within their ports. Some nations may want the US to be nearly CoVid free (I'm guessing Australia and New Zealand are not going to want visitors from the US or the EU or UK for a while).

Las Vegas opens next week and is already seeing an uptick in people out and about. CoVid cases and death counts in Nevada are low (helps to only have 3 million people, but about 75% live in Las Vegas, with another bunch near Reno/Tahoe). Nevada has about 410 total deaths so far and will obviously become a kind of test case about indoor transmission of CoVid in air conditioned spaces. Many distancing measures are supposed to be in place in casinos. Those 410 deaths constitute a much higher per capita rate than in neighboring states, so far. Utah, for example, only has 106. Utah and Nevada have similar total populations.

For whatever reason, projections for Arizona show that they are still on the upward slope of CoVid, with their peak projected sometime in July. CoVid has only just started to take hold as a community transmitted disease in the bigger cities there (not so much in northern Arizona). Again, we see A/C and recirculated area, large numbers of elderly people, etc. playing a big role.

Meanwhile, farmworkers may join packing plant workers as populations with high rates of CoVid.

I am doing this with the UK figures and using a weekly figure as a more accurate %. We have gone from a peak of a weekly increase in deaths of 374% on April 3rd to only a 5% weekly increase this week. Obviously looking for it to fall to 0% in the next week or so now.
 
  • #338
Coronavirus updates: UK chancellor denies lockdown easing 'reckless' - BBC News

Summary
  1. UK Chancellor Rishi Sunak says the government is "in a position" to ease lockdown despite warnings the infection level remains high
  2. Confirming changes to the government's furlough scheme, Sunak says employers will be asked to cover National Insurance and employer pension contributions in August
  3. By September, businesses will pay 10% of wages for furloughed staff, and in October 20%, the UK chancellor says
  4. Up to eight people from two households can now meet outside in Scotland, as the country eases its lockdown
  5. People must be prepared for new outbreaks of coronavirus to build up very quickly, the World Health Organization tells the BBC
  6. Spain fast-tracks a plan to pay the country's poorest households a basic income of £410 a month in the wake of the pandemic
  7. Japan sees a new cluster of infections emerge in the south-west, just days after the PM lifted the state of emergency
  8. Moscow has more than doubled its official death toll from Covid-19 for the month of April
  9. There are more than 5.8 million cases globally and the death toll stands at more than 361,200, according to Johns Hopkins University
 
  • #339
Premier League set to restart on 17 June with Man City v Arsenal and Villa v Sheff Utd

The Premier League is set to restart on 17 June with Aston Villa v Sheffield United and Manchester City v Arsenal, subject to government approval.

A full round of fixtures would then be played on the weekend of 19-21 June.

There are 92 matches still to play, and the first to take place will be those the four teams involved have in hand.

All matches will take place behind closed doors and will be broadcast live on Sky Sports, BT Sport, BBC Sport or Amazon Prime.

BBC Sport will air four live matches for the first time since the Premier League's inception in 1992.

Meanwhile, Sky Sports will show 64 matches live and make 25 available free to air.

Safety guidelines are yet to be issued by the government and decisions will remain subject to the continuing fight against the coronavirus pandemic.

Kick-off times will be as follows (all times BST):

  • Friday: 20:00
  • Saturday: 12:30, 15:00, 17:30 and 20:00
  • Sunday: 12:00, 14:00, 16:30 and 19:00
  • Monday: 20:00
  • Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday: 18:00 and 20:00
More at link.
 
  • #340
@Kensie I went and saw my college age daughter the other day. We met for lunch, and were seated across from each other outside on a patio deck. I don't think that there was any danger in this contact at all. My husband, who is very, very high risk was with us as well. (My daughter has been working full time since this started, in one of the areas with the most cases).

Do what makes you feel comfortable. This was fine for us.
 
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