Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #59

[10ofRods]

But it was already on the West coast by a traveller from Wuhan into the US on 21 January. That was the first known case.

So 6 feet is not even enough actually.

Certainly isn't enough if you're in an indoor space with a volume of air already contaminated with CV virions. Most of us would prefer to avoid that situation altogether. But soon, teachers may be facing just this situation, along with patients in primary care waiting rooms. Masks should be mandatory in situations like those, but of course, that's not going to happen universally.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I presume from China, how else? Apparently Italy employs a lot of people from China in their factories so clothes could have "made in Italy" label.

I believe this has been well documented. More came to the NorthEast US via Italy than China.

First cases in Italy were in Jan 2020.(Chinese tourists in Rome, via the Milan Airport).

Italy stopped all flights from China 31 Jan 2020.
Italy started extensive screening 3 Feb 2020

COVID-19 pandemic in Italy - Wikipedia

 

[CharlestonGal]

(CNN)The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention will resume its regular briefings on Covid-19 following a three-month hiatus during which the nation's top health agency became less visible in an unprecedented crisis.

The decision to restart the CDC briefings comes as the death toll has reached a grim milestone of more than 103,000 and the White House has been under fire as of late for sidelining the Trump administration's health experts on its own coronavirus task force.
The CDC held a briefing Friday in which director Robert Redfield defended the agency's surveillance for the coronavirus and denied that it missed the spread of the virus across the country.
That session was the first of the resumption of the CDC's regular press briefings, a senior Health and Human Services official told CNN.
The last of the regular briefings was March 9, shortly after a top CDC official warned that coronavirus would rapidly spread in the US, while the White House was downplaying the seriousness of it.

CDC to resume coronavirus briefings after being sidelined by White House - CNNPolitics

 

[weepingangel]

Food stamp recipients can now order online - CommonWealth Magazine

MASSACHUSETTS FOOD STAMPrecipients can now purchase groceries online through Amazon and Walmart as part of a US Department of Agriculture pilot program.
The program went live Friday, allowing participants in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program to use their electronic benefit transfer, or EBT, cards to buy food on the retailers’ websites and have it delivered to avoid personal visits to the grocery store. The food assistance benefit cannot be used to pay the delivery fees.

This will provide a much-needed alternative for people who are quarantining, sick with Covid-19, or in a vulnerable population and don’t want to leave their house to go to the market,” said Laura Sylvester, a legislative and community partnership coordinator for the Food Bank of Western Massachusetts.

more at link

 

[mickey2942]

Miami-Dade adopts wastewater epidemiology to help fight coronavirus

Someone mentioned Florida sewage containing coronavirus so I found this article. 40 states are getting their sewage analysed apparently.

From the link-

"Data shows that so far the highest reading was measured on April 9. It showed that up to 46,000 — 2% of Miami-Dade’s 2.3 million people using the wastewater system — may have been infected. The Florida Department of Health reported there were about 5,745 confirmed cases as of that day."

So the sewage indicates 46,000 are infected when confirmed cases were only at 5,745. That could indicate under estimation of cases by about 88%.

Imagine that. I have suspected a huge under count in Miami-Dade for several reasons. The main one is the number of undocumented people who live in the area. Many from Haiti, who work under the table as maids, CNA's, doing yard work, picking crops. These folks are not going to believe that they can get a test, and no one is going to get their information.

I believe that this is also why meat packaging plants have had a higher rate of COVID19. These folks have to work, they are not going to be getting sick pay, or unemployment.

 

[Yesiamapirate]

Can someone explain the antibody test for Covid? I understand basically what it means to have antibodies but how does one have a false positive? Don’t they look for specific antibodies? Either you have them or not? I am sorry is this has been explained. TIA.

 

[margarita25]

Can someone explain the antibody test for Covid? I understand basically what it means to have antibodies but how does one have a false positive? Don’t they look for specific antibodies? Either you have them or not? I am sorry is this has been explained. TIA.

( @dixiegirl1035
@10ofRods )

 

[10ofRods]

IMO I definitely think China should increase their donation.

I'll agree with that. But nations need to work together. The consequences of this divisiveness, on top of the other consequences (plus many other political currents) are not going to help economic recovery at all. The opposite.

Oh well. I'm older, my economic needs are modest. I really fear for younger people, whose lives may be about to change forever - not due to CoVid, but to the cold war between China and other parts of the world. It's going to take some time to lose our dependence on Chinese manufacturing which isn't just "cheaper labor," it's also much more modern, much more automated (expensive) production processes.

Jobs in retail and other entry level jobs are going to be in short supply. At least the US produces its own toilet paper. I am curious to see how we're going to begin manufacturing the things we will no longer get from China - no one talks about that.

It'll be clear by the end of the year just how far the US is going to go in this new battle with China. Meanwhile, the US has become a major source of CoVid, so it'll be a while before other nations trust our goods, services and allow us to travel. China may have started it, but the US is part of what's continuing it.

1200 deaths yesterday in the US (under-reported, according to data review publications). UK is actually on par with the US, with 324 deaths yesterday (which would be like the US having 1600 deaths, if we made the rates per capita). But the US probably did have 1600 yesterday (and in the days prior, 1200-1500).

The US is apparently going to stand alone in its battle against CoVid. It doesn't look like warmer weather is slowing it down in the US. Disunity among the states, and within states, over things like wearing masks in public are going to keep our rates higher than elsewhere.

UK's policies are going to be more effective, as the policies are nation-wide. Once UK has CoVid under control or nearly eradicated, I wonder if they'll feel okay about Americans traveling to UK. Unless we can do better than 1200 deaths per day, 32,000/month...I have a feeling no one is going to want our non-essential passengers arriving in their country.

That alone will add another couple of percentage points to the global depression ahead. And again, that will hurt the poor, the young and the elderly population on fixed incomes. I do wonder which nations will allow their tourists to come to the US, as well. Australia provides so much income to Florida and California - we shall see how they handle the fact that CoVid will be endemic.

 

[Cool Cats]

Can someone explain the antibody test for Covid? I understand basically what it means to have antibodies but how does one have a false positive? Don’t they look for specific antibodies? Either you have them or not? I am sorry is this has been explained. TIA.

Might be helpful:

Antibody tests can give you false report of COVID-19 immunity, CDC warns
MAY 27, 2020
https://www.kansascity.com/news/coronavirus/article243035516.html

Some antibody tests for COVID-19 previous infection can give false results, experts say

False positive and false negative coronavirus test results explained

 

[10ofRods]

Air ambulances land at Durdle Door to treat people seriously injured jumping off 200ft arch

Oh goodness look at the post lockdown crowds in this article. Air ambulance has to land on the beach. This is a long way from the car park so they all were told to leave the beach as you can see.

That's crazy. So, people somehow feel that once out of lockdown, they should do that one crazy stunt that they always wished they had done? (Jumping off 200 feet into a shallow splash pool?)

 

[margarita25]

Coronavirus: Texas fifth-grader who made masks for hospitals dies in ATV accident

 

[Cool Cats]

I'll agree with that. But nations need to work together. The consequences of this divisiveness, on top of the other consequences (plus many other political currents) are not going to help economic recovery at all. The opposite.

Oh well. I'm older, my economic needs are modest. I really fear for younger people, whose lives may be about to change forever - not due to CoVid, but to the cold war between China and other parts of the world. It's going to take some time to lose our dependence on Chinese manufacturing which isn't just "cheaper labor," it's also much more modern, much more automated (expensive) production processes.

Jobs in retail and other entry level jobs are going to be in short supply. At least the US produces its own toilet paper. I am curious to see how we're going to begin manufacturing the things we will no longer get from China - no one talks about that.

It'll be clear by the end of the year just how far the US is going to go in this new battle with China. Meanwhile, the US has become a major source of CoVid, so it'll be a while before other nations trust our goods, services and allow us to travel. China may have started it, but the US is part of what's continuing it.

1200 deaths yesterday in the US (under-reported, according to data review publications). UK is actually on par with the US, with 324 deaths yesterday (which would be like the US having 1600 deaths, if we made the rates per capita). But the US probably did have 1600 yesterday (and in the days prior, 1200-1500).

The US is apparently going to stand alone in its battle against CoVid. It doesn't look like warmer weather is slowing it down in the US. Disunity among the states, and within states, over things like wearing masks in public are going to keep our rates higher than elsewhere.

UK's policies are going to be more effective, as the policies are nation-wide. Once UK has CoVid under control or nearly eradicated, I wonder if they'll feel okay about Americans traveling to UK. Unless we can do better than 1200 deaths per day, 32,000/month...I have a feeling no one is going to want our non-essential passengers arriving in their country.

That alone will add another couple of percentage points to the global depression ahead. And again, that will hurt the poor, the young and the elderly population on fixed incomes. I do wonder which nations will allow their tourists to come to the US, as well. Australia provides so much income to Florida and California - we shall see how they handle the fact that CoVid will be endemic.

BBM

Europeans emerging from COVID lockdowns find a conspicuous absence of Americans

 

[anneg]

I'll agree with that. But nations need to work together. The consequences of this divisiveness, on top of the other consequences (plus many other political currents) are not going to help economic recovery at all. The opposite.

Oh well. I'm older, my economic needs are modest. I really fear for younger people, whose lives may be about to change forever - not due to CoVid, but to the cold war between China and other parts of the world. It's going to take some time to lose our dependence on Chinese manufacturing which isn't just "cheaper labor," it's also much more modern, much more automated (expensive) production processes.

Jobs in retail and other entry level jobs are going to be in short supply. At least the US produces its own toilet paper. I am curious to see how we're going to begin manufacturing the things we will no longer get from China - no one talks about that.

It'll be clear by the end of the year just how far the US is going to go in this new battle with China. Meanwhile, the US has become a major source of CoVid, so it'll be a while before other nations trust our goods, services and allow us to travel. China may have started it, but the US is part of what's continuing it.

1200 deaths yesterday in the US (under-reported, according to data review publications). UK is actually on par with the US, with 324 deaths yesterday (which would be like the US having 1600 deaths, if we made the rates per capita). But the US probably did have 1600 yesterday (and in the days prior, 1200-1500).

The US is apparently going to stand alone in its battle against CoVid. It doesn't look like warmer weather is slowing it down in the US. Disunity among the states, and within states, over things like wearing masks in public are going to keep our rates higher than elsewhere.

UK's policies are going to be more effective, as the policies are nation-wide. Once UK has CoVid under control or nearly eradicated, I wonder if they'll feel okay about Americans traveling to UK. Unless we can do better than 1200 deaths per day, 32,000/month...I have a feeling no one is going to want our non-essential passengers arriving in their country.

That alone will add another couple of percentage points to the global depression ahead. And again, that will hurt the poor, the young and the elderly population on fixed incomes. I do wonder which nations will allow their tourists to come to the US, as well. Australia provides so much income to Florida and California - we shall see how they handle the fact that CoVid will be endemic.

BBM. This is depressing to think about. So much needs to be done worldwide to mitigate the economic pain and the suffering this pandemic had brought and will continue to bring.

 

[mickey2942]

Remittances to Mexico surge to record high in March

This is interesting, but not surprising. People sent most of their money home. And now, this month remittances have gone down significantly. Our economy is a barometer for the rest of the world. This worries me for Mexico, Central America, South America.
Economic Freeze Cuts Remittances, a Lifeline for Migrants’ Families

 

[margarita25]

Florida coronavirus: COVID-19 cases top 55,000

“The Florida Department of Health on Friday reported more than 900 new cases of COVID-19 since the last update was published Thursday.

Florida now has 55,424 cases and the death toll stands at 2,447, which is up 34 since Thursday.”

 

[KALI]

Sounds like a good idea.

Food stamp recipients can now order online - CommonWealth Magazine




more at link

 

[tresir2012]

I'll agree with that. But nations need to work together. The consequences of this divisiveness, on top of the other consequences (plus many other political currents) are not going to help economic recovery at all. The opposite.

Oh well. I'm older, my economic needs are modest. I really fear for younger people, whose lives may be about to change forever - not due to CoVid, but to the cold war between China and other parts of the world. It's going to take some time to lose our dependence on Chinese manufacturing which isn't just "cheaper labor," it's also much more modern, much more automated (expensive) production processes.

Jobs in retail and other entry level jobs are going to be in short supply. At least the US produces its own toilet paper. I am curious to see how we're going to begin manufacturing the things we will no longer get from China - no one talks about that.

It'll be clear by the end of the year just how far the US is going to go in this new battle with China. Meanwhile, the US has become a major source of CoVid, so it'll be a while before other nations trust our goods, services and allow us to travel. China may have started it, but the US is part of what's continuing it.

1200 deaths yesterday in the US (under-reported, according to data review publications). UK is actually on par with the US, with 324 deaths yesterday (which would be like the US having 1600 deaths, if we made the rates per capita). But the US probably did have 1600 yesterday (and in the days prior, 1200-1500).

The US is apparently going to stand alone in its battle against CoVid. It doesn't look like warmer weather is slowing it down in the US. Disunity among the states, and within states, over things like wearing masks in public are going to keep our rates higher than elsewhere.

UK's policies are going to be more effective, as the policies are nation-wide. Once UK has CoVid under control or nearly eradicated, I wonder if they'll feel okay about Americans traveling to UK. Unless we can do better than 1200 deaths per day, 32,000/month...I have a feeling no one is going to want our non-essential passengers arriving in their country.

That alone will add another couple of percentage points to the global depression ahead. And again, that will hurt the poor, the young and the elderly population on fixed incomes. I do wonder which nations will allow their tourists to come to the US, as well. Australia provides so much income to Florida and California - we shall see how they handle the fact that CoVid will be endemic.

I think US will probably use India more, or South Korea and Taiwan. The majority of US funding to WHO is voluntary so they can decide who they give it to.

 

[CharlestonGal]

AAMC Statement on U.S. Withdrawal from World Health Organization

AAMC (Association of American Medical Colleges) Chief Scientific Officer Ross McKinney, Jr., MD, issued the following statement on President Trump’s announcement to end the United States’ relationship with the World Health Organization (WHO):

“The AAMC is extremely disappointed in the president’s decision to withdraw the United States from the WHO. In the midst of the global COVID-19 pandemic, countries of the world should be working together to improve the health of all people. This decision is counter to that goal.

Since its foundation in 1948, the WHO has been at the center of international efforts to fight for better health, and the United States has been a key partner in the organization and its success.

The president’s decision to leave the WHO is very troubling, in both the short- and long-terms, and we hope the decision is soon reversed. The world needs a collaborative effort now, more than ever, to resolve our ongoing crisis and prepare for future global health emergencies.”

 

[tmar]

Note: Australia was doing so well with Covid 19, and now...

COVID-19 is a scam, no mandatory vaccines and 5G equals communism: Inside Australia's WEIRDEST protest ever where demonstrators flouted social distancing and even the horses had anti-virus protective gear


COVID-19 is a scam, no mandatory vaccines and 5G equals communism: Inside Australia's WEIRDEST protest ever where demonstrators flouted social distancing and even the horses had anti-virus protective gear
Zoe Zaczek For Daily Mail Australia and Aap
9 hrs ago

Hundreds of demonstrators across Australia have broken social distancing rules to protest against vaccinations, 5G and the coronavirus pandemic.

Protesters gathered at the Royal Botanic Gardens in Melbourne on Saturday and claimed the global COVID-19 health crisis was a 'scam'.

There are more than five-million cases of coronavirus cases across the globe and at least 350,000 people have died. Australia has recorded more than 7,000 infections and the death toll sits at 103 following the successful implementation of social distancing restrictions.
Brazen demonstrators also carried signs declaring they were against vaccines and 5G technology.

 

[ilovewings]

Note: Australia was doing so well with Covid 19, and now...

COVID-19 is a scam, no mandatory vaccines and 5G equals communism: Inside Australia's WEIRDEST protest ever where demonstrators flouted social distancing and even the horses had anti-virus protective gear


COVID-19 is a scam, no mandatory vaccines and 5G equals communism: Inside Australia's WEIRDEST protest ever where demonstrators flouted social distancing and even the horses had anti-virus protective gear
Zoe Zaczek For Daily Mail Australia and Aap
9 hrs ago

Hundreds of demonstrators across Australia have broken social distancing rules to protest against vaccinations, 5G and the coronavirus pandemic.

Protesters gathered at the Royal Botanic Gardens in Melbourne on Saturday and claimed the global COVID-19 health crisis was a 'scam'.

There are more than five-million cases of coronavirus cases across the globe and at least 350,000 people have died. Australia has recorded more than 7,000 infections and the death toll sits at 103 following the successful implementation of social distancing restrictions.
Brazen demonstrators also carried signs declaring they were against vaccines and 5G technology.

Dolts!!!!