Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #60

[KALI]

In California and New York, approximately 45% of those that died, were in nursing homes. Big mistakes made by leadership. Moo

United States Coronavirus: 2,142,224 Cases and 117,527 Deaths - Worldometer
World / Countries / United States
Last updated: June 14, 2020, 04:45 GMT

United States
Coronavirus Cases:
2,142,224
Deaths:
117,527

 

[tresir2012]

It's including internal tourism and internal trade, as far as I can tell.

My advice to any nation would be to continue to make up the (small)percentage of foreign trade or tourism if they can. By eschewing things they really don't need from another island or continent, and living as far as possible with what they, themselves, produce.

You're including what NZers themselves consume. Think about it. It's not about exports. It's now about having enough at home.

Many more NZers than UKers or USAers are proportionately involved in occupations that give basic sustenance to their own place, in a time of world crisis.

For UK and USA, the loss of tourism and exports of certain items is much more damaging.

Agriculture is 45% of exports. Expected to rise 6% by 2022.

Agriculture & Forestry Jobs | Work in NZ | New Zealand Now

"Agriculture and forestry are among New Zealand's powerhouse industries. Together with fisheries and related industries they generated 44.6% of our total overseas trade in the year to June 2015 and employed over 141,400 people or over 6% of our total workforce. It’s big business by any reckoning - and your chance to work in a sector that makes waves around the world.

Despite some challenging conditions in 2015, the meat, horticulture, seafood and other sectors grew strongly, helping to offset slowdowns in dairy and forestry. Medium term prospects are good with the Ministry for Primary Industries forecasting earnings from the sector to rise around 6% between 2018 and 2022.

New Zealand is the world's largest dairy and sheep meat exporter."

My point was that their tourism receipts will be hit by the coronavirus. Agriculture exports should not be affected too much. MOO

 

[Conflate]

With all the misinformation around, it is one thing for sure that if you stay home you save lives.

 

[tresir2012]

I don't get it either: it is a head scratcher isn't it???

I know it is something I have been wondering. Seeing as I am still in lockdown in Wales while the shops are all opening in England. I am beginning to think it was some big social experiment. Maybe that's what happens when you are isolated for 3 months. Your mind starts to go and you only think of 1984.
Half of deaths have been in care homes and this has been repeated over and over by each country that has experienced it. They were all in "lockdown" yet they caught it. No country seems to have learned anything from that.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

Coronavirus: PM orders 'urgent' review of two-metre rule amid calls for it to be scrapped

The chancellor has said the two-metre social distancing rule is under "urgent" consultation by the government.

Rishi Sunak said "everything is kept under review" with scientists and economists as the coronavirus pandemic evolves.

But Mr Sunak warned while he recognised concerns from businesses about not being able to operate under social distancing laws, health and safety was still the number one priority.

Speaking on Sky News, he told Sophy Ridge on Sunday: "The prime minister has put in place a comprehensive review of the two-metre rule.

"Now we have made good progress in suppressing the virus, we're at a different stage of the epidemic than we were at the beginning, and that enables us to take a fresh look at this.

"It is important we look at it comprehensively in the round and that is what we will do urgently."

Mr Sunak said he recognised the importance of reducing the rule ahead of non-essential businesses reopening their doors for the first time in three months on Monday.

 

[musicaljoke]

BC here.....our numbers have been good,,,,BUT it’s now tourist season coming up......and I live in a tourist area on lakefront. It scares me. Mr. B.W already spent a month in critical condition in isolation 18 months ago when an internal staph infection hit his heart, lungs, liver and kidneys. He wouldn’t survive Covid.

Our tourist season is opening up too, when our island population typically doubles. The local population has to support this influx, so challenges, such as keeping food on the grocery shelves, and maintaining physical distancing become much more difficult.

My personal suspicion is that people who are willing to travel during this pandemic, are also people who cast caution to the wind. So transmission into the local population is a real concern.

I am able to continue isolating, but the grandies' dad is the local doctor, and I ache to see my grandchildren. I hope that you have the local support that you need to remain isolated as long as necessary. Stay safe.

 

[tresir2012]

UK Sunday papers - Corona 2 metre rule review and care home deaths on the front pages.

'Shameful' protests and plans to help economy

Trouble is those of us watching these protests all over the country are getting a little fed up that it seems one rule for some and another for others. Another reason I think they are going to scrap the 2m rule IMO.

Was the Queen's birthday yesterday with a ceremony at Windsor. Some papers had said she would never be seen again. They clearly don't know the Queen. Will find a link.

Queen's birthday marked with unique ceremony

Pretty unique Corona ceremony.

'Sitting in my bedroom talking to the Queen'

Here's another first for the Queen. Her first video conference.

Queenstown rental property prices in post-coronavirus freefall

Article about effect of Corona on NZ tourist town Queenstown in the South Island.

Super Rugby returns in NZ with fans, hugs and handshakes

Rugby spectator sport returns to NZ.

 

[Bravo]

With all the misinformation around, it is one thing for sure that if you stay home you save lives.

Welcome to WS Conflate

 

[jjenny]

I know it is something I have been wondering. Seeing as I am still in lockdown in Wales while the shops are all opening in England. I am beginning to think it was some big social experiment. Maybe that's what happens when you are isolated for 3 months. Your mind starts to go and you only think of 1984.
Half of deaths have been in care homes and this has been repeated over and over by each country that has experienced it. They were all in "lockdown" yet they caught it. No country seems to have learned anything from that.

Lockdown, in a nursing home, doesn't actually mean they are all staying put. You still have nurses and other personnel going in and out of the home. I believe a lot of them might work in different places, and not just that single nursing home. Then you have residents, which I believe were still allowed to go to outside doctors appointments, and so on. So there are many ways to catch it, even in lockdown. Lockdown limits the ways to catch it, but certainly doesn't eliminate these ways.

 

[mickey2942]

Widow of Wuhan whistleblower doctor Li Wenliang has given birth to their son - CNN

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

Coronavirus: No reduction in two-metre rule until next month, says Boris Johnson

Boris Johnson has suggested there will be no reduction in the two-metre social distancing rule until next month.

The prime minister has launched an "urgent" comprehensive review into the coronavirus guideline.


But he revealed on Sunday the two-metre rule would remain under review until the next stage of the government's planned reopening of the economy, scheduled for 4 July.

 

[jjenny]

Widow of Wuhan whistleblower doctor Li Wenliang has given birth to their son - CNN

That is such a good news. As I recall, it was also reported that she herself was infected with covid.

 

[tresir2012]

Lockdown, in a nursing home, doesn't actually mean they are all staying put. You still have nurses and other personnel going in and out of the home. I believe a lot of them might work in different places, and not just that single nursing home. Then you have residents, which I believe were still allowed to go to outside doctors appointments, and so on. So there are many ways to catch it, even in lockdown. Lockdown limits the ways to catch it, but certainly doesn't eliminate these ways.

Thats why I had it in inverted commas.

 

[tresir2012]

How big is the epidemic in care homes?

While on average April sees about 8,400 deaths in care homes - this year there have been 26,563 deaths in England and Wales, so about 18,000 more than expected.

With only 8,000 of these attributed to coronavirus on death certificates, questions have been raised about what has contributed to the other 10,000 deaths.


Virus-hit care home probe referred to police

Isle of Man.

Police support Crown probe into care home deaths

Scotland

Care home moves had 'tragic consequences'

England

Human rights call into Welsh Government's testing

Wales

27% have been deaths in care homes in Wales. Current total deaths are 1441 so that is 388 deaths in care homes

 

[Lavender Moon]

I think I likely saw Covid literally being transmitted before my eyes the other day.

It seemed a friend had come to visit the college aged girl across the street. They sat down in the yard very close to together, face to face, I’d say about a foot or two from each other, if that.

They weren’t wearing masks. Well, one started coughing uncontrollably for what seemed like five minutes straight. The other girl just sat there but finally got up and walked away. I actually stood up, cleared my throat loudly and gave them the glare from hell. I was just about to say something along the lines of “Nice, no mask and coughing in her face...you both are probably going to need a Covid test”, but they quickly went inside after they saw my glare.

I can’t handle selfish society right now. I’d rather stay in my bubble because I know myself and I have NO FILTER and will GO OFF. I have little self control when it comes to things like this.

Is it my business? Damn right it is. This virus should be “everyone’s business”, as Doc T says.

I realize that incident was private property, but if they’re not wearing masks or practicing social distancing, and one has no problem coughing in one’s face for 5 minutes straight without getting up, while the other just sits there, this is an indication of how they may conduct themselves out in public, and how seriously they take this virus, IMO.

It is beyond belief that with all the input about how masks save lives, people walk about giggling and yawning and sneezing and coughing. I can feel my blood pressure mount as I give them my blue glare. Unbelievable. And selfish, just as you say.

 

[Lavender Moon]

It is evident that there are some of us here who DO care about this virus and are still committed to being a part of helping stop the spread. I do take some comfort in that, so thank you. At least we can convene here together with like minds and share our frustrations, and feel like we are not alone with our concerns about others not taking it seriously.

Yes! I am so grateful to be part of this community.

 

[ilovewings]

It is beyond belief that with all the input about how masks save lives, people walk about giggling and yawning and sneezing and coughing. I can feel my blood pressure mount as I give them my blue glare. Unbelievable. And selfish, just as you say.

I know: it is disheartening. However I was in a grocery store yesterday with my mask on and this lady, who had her mask on, said hi to me in such a friendly way: i felt that she was being friendly because she was grateful that I had my mask on too----Putting on a mask is such a simple thing to do to reduce the transmission of this horrible disease and yet it has been politicized beyond belief so that lots of people refuse to use it. Sigh

 

[Bravo]

The woman who said she was fired from the Florida Health Department for refusing to alter coronavirus statistics is now publishing data on her own

 

[tresir2012]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/52200989

According to this link latest UK and WHO advice is to wear a mask if you cannot social distance.

 

[ilovewings]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/52200989

According to this link latest UK and WHO advice is to wear a mask if you cannot social distance.

Anyone that cannot understand how important a mask is, must be dense: it is common sense- it is a barrier, plain and simple: if someone sneezes, the droplets are contained to a great degree, so they don't spray all over. It is so simple.