Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #60

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But that should be discovered with the phase III they are conducting right now. From what I understand, it is an adenovirus that was originally given to chimps apparently. If those PIII trials are ok then they will pilot it in India, with hopefully roll out in UK and US in September. In the UK vaccines are free. What is the deal in the US? Will many want it if they have to pay for it or will it be free there too? MOO.
Insurance pays for all necessary vaccines. And if you self pay, they are still very affordable.
 
  • #422
Thank Goodness for today's technology especially for the mess that we are all in.
Just think 30 years ago, no internet, few mobile phones, no email. Very frightening. Thank Goodness for today's technology.

So far this year, I hate 2020. Things will eventually get better, right???

I hate everything past mid-March 2020.
Everything until that point was great.

I had such plans for this year, things on my list that I was finally going to be able to do.
The job I enjoyed is gone. I vacillate between mad and depressed.
Some days are good, some not so much.
Just hanging in there, one day at a time!
 
  • #423
I hate everything past mid-March 2020.
Everything until that point was great.

Nah! It pretty much sucked from February 9th on. That's the day the helicopter containing Kobe Bryant, his daughter, and 7 others crashed, killing everybody. A couple of weeks later, it was already becoming apparent to me, that this virus was going to be a problem. Even if some "influential" people were still calling it a hoax.

So yeah.....<Insert Profanity Here> 2020.
 
  • #424
I understand your anger at China- i have it too but our government has let us down big time. if this virus had been addressed in January when it was brought to the attention of several people in key leadership positions, we would not be in this horrible place today: IMO way less deaths and the economy would not be in free fall.
Is the economy in free fall? I think it is pretty stable right now, considering...

Nasdaq closes above psychological milestone at 10,000, even as the economy is in recession—here’s how we got here
Published: June 10, 2020 at 4:21 p.m. ET

The Nasdaq Composite Index closed at an important milestone for the first time on Wednesday, underscoring the rebound in technology-related stocks following the coronavirus rout that has helped to crystallize the view that parts of the stock market have entered a new bullish phase.

The rally for the tech-laden index comes after a series of fresh record closing highs for the index. A finish at or above 10,000 represents the fastest 1,000-point milestone for the Nasdaq COMP, +0.66%, 114 trading sessions, since the 49 sessions the index took to surge from 4,000 to 5,000 in 2000, according to data from Dow Jones Market Data.

The U.S. stock market, hit by an economy falling into recession as businesses were temporarily closed to combat the coronavirus pandemic, has staged a rapid rebound from its low in late March. The Nasdaq and its peer index, the Nasdaq-100, composed of the largest members of the Nasdaq Composite, is weighted heavily with technology businesses which have been viewed as more resilient to the COVID-19 pandemic that has rocked the economy and financial markets.

Nasdaq closes above psychological milestone at 10,000, even as the economy is in recession—here’s how we got here
 
  • #425
I agree about the half term returning skiing travellers, but the musician Andrew Gill died from it and his wife believes it was caught from a bandmate who had caught it in China in November. So it was here then IMO.


Agree with this - I know quite a few people who had this virus before Christmas last year - or to be accurate, they claim to have had it, as no testing was done.
I am inclined to believe them.
 
  • #426
I think that’s perfectly plausible. What the experts seem to be saying is that rather than there being a small handful of superspreaders who arrived from the Far East, there were hundreds and hundreds coming in from Europe too - flights packed full of Coronavirus.
Was this before they were quarantining some returning travellers at one point.? I can't remember now. It seems that we did nothing until after WHO declared a pandemic on March 11th, then we had some quarantining and a period of advice for 70 yo to stay in and similar advice for people with underlying conditions. Then schools closed the following week with everyone flocking to Snowdon and National Parks like it was a Bank Holiday, followed by the lockdown on the 23rd IIRC. That week before lockdown probably did spread a lot of cases with everyone still out and about.
 
  • #427
Our VA Governor announced a phased plan to reopen schools--no one really knows when and each county seems to be on its own. Here are the plans:

TeacherGoals
on Sunday

That's similar to the UK too.
 
  • #428
KALI, this feeling of hopelessness is so depressing. So many things that we cannot control and we are exposed to all of this. I have depression issues and have for a long time but now, I feel overwhelmed and want to give up. We will make it KALI. There has got to be light at the end of this tunnel that keeps on going.

Apparently in my state, the number of cases has doubled since it re-opened. No surprise between the beaches opening and the protests. What is happening in the world today?????

New coronavirus cases almost double after reopening

I broke my ankle and now I am having facial spasms. Are these facial spasms stress related or just a blood vessel hitting a nerve. More than likely a blood vessel hitting a nerve but heck, I want life back to normal before 2020.
I broke my ankle badly many years ago when I was in my 30's and had to have it pinned one side and a plate the other and therefore no plaster was needed. It took 1 week for the stitches and 6 weeks for the bones to heal and at least a year to get back to fully normal ankle movement. I never had facial or any other spasms so I recommend you call your doctor. Did you have to have your ankle pinned or plastered? Take care.
 
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Could Covid-19 have reached the UK earlier than thought?

I found the Andrew Gill article again and there is a link to his wife's blog post which is very interesting to read.

"In a blogpost written last month, Mayer said she emailed Gill’s thoracic specialist to ask the question. “His response winded me,” she wrote. The consultant said: “It seemed to me at the time of Andy’s illness that we had not fully understood why he deteriorated as he did. Once we learned more about Covid-19, I thought there was a real possibility that Andy had been infected by Sars-Cov-2.” "
 
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Hey Tabitha, I get what your saying but from the other direction. My dad is 88 this month and he was a lot like Trump in that he did not take the virus seriously. He said he had seen virus's and bacterial infections come and go many many times and they just go away, no big deal. This was mid-March before the official shut down orders. The 3 of us in my home were already not going out unless necessary but my dad was socializing like crazy as he always does. (He is young for his age).

He wanted me to come over on Friday March 20th but my son was afraid I shouldn't go because grandpa was "running" around. Tuesday March 17th my dad had plans to go to a large St. Patrick's day get-together at a popular pub (as they say in Great Britain) and I asked him not to go.

He scoffed at me that there is "nothing to worry about." Well my son was worried that's for sure and I told my son OK, maybe I wouldn't go see grandpa Friday - I was stuck in the middle between my dad and son.

So guess what happened? On the morning of March 17th, the Governor of my State declared that all restaurants and bars and other places would be shut down. So my dad did not get to go to his St. Patrick's celebration and be amongst crowds. I went to see him that Friday with a sigh of relief!

Then a curious thing occured....this is true....Cool Cats is a straight shooter. Both my son and I had plans with my dad for us both to come over the following week. So the day before we were going to come over my dad called me and said my son shouldn't come because he had to be cautious of Covid-19.

I was surprised to say the least considering it was my son who originally did not want he or I to go over to my dad's house and my dad always wants to see his grandson and complains he does not see him enough.


Since then my dad has been cautious and even has used masks that his neighbor gives him.

I don't know how he is going to respond now that things are opening back up. Will he continue from where he left off and socialize all over the place again? Or will he be more cautious? Guess I will find out this Friday when I go see him again!

During the 3 month shut down my dad said that his neighbor disapproved of me coming over to see him. He told his neighbor that he wanted to see me and it's "worth the risk." Basically he told the neighbor to "back off." After that (to this day) the neighbor has been bringing food over for me and my dad when she sees my car in my dad's driveway.

Well hope I didn't bore you'all with my family story! I enjoy reading you'alls personal stories....:eek:..:D..:p

I love reading personal stories: i think we all learn from each other too and realize what each of is going through with this horrendous disease known as Covid-
 
  • #432
I'm still furious about the Covid-19 virus.
Absolutely furious.
The Mayhem that has been unleashed on the entire world MUST NEVER happen again! NEVER.
There is only one thing that little ole me can do.
I personally, will not buy anything from China
Nothing.
Seriously angry me
This virus naturally spread from bats. It could have happened anywhere. Blaming the country is kind of pointless.
 
  • #433
While the Covid-19 doesn't seem to cause deaths among young children in the Western world, it's a totally different matter in Indonesia, where there are reports that hundreds of children have died, Indonesia's hundreds of suspected child virus deaths highlight danger , as the virus adds to the earlier combination of malnutrition, and anaemia. Unfortunately, the children of Indonesia will not be the only ones to die in this pandemic, the same combination of malnutrition, and anaemia among children exists in many other, often very poor, countries in Africa, as well on other continents, and among those who are forced to live in refugee camps.
 
  • #434
I hate everything past mid-March 2020.
Everything until that point was great.

I had such plans for this year, things on my list that I was finally going to be able to do.
The job I enjoyed is gone. I vacillate between mad and depressed.
Some days are good, some not so much.
Just hanging in there, one day at a time!

I am with you. My job, that seemed amazingly secure, is now, potentially gone. I was planning on additional training, no funding. Forget that. My goal, was a smooth ten more years to a nice retirement.

Now, it is "One Day at a Time". Who knows?
 
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I know it's extremely hard - actually painful - to get news from various sources, but it's so important now. I looked at CNN's site this morning, and then Fox. It's like they are reporting about two different countries and eras. Even though the editorial bent used to be different, at least they both used to report the same actual "news." Now it's like if you want the facts, you have to experience them yourself.

I was surprised to the Fox reporting in Seattle in Flames - like it was a front line city in Syria. After digging through some Washington State news sources I come to find the "Capitol Hill" isn't the State Capitol building (as implied from some sources) but rather a hippie neighborhood that's like the Haight in 1960's San Francisco.

I'll tie this back to Covid with what we are seeing in news about Arizona - the State was erroneously including emergency overflow beds in it's daily capacity count. Once that mistake was discovered, it was corrected. The "sudden" change in reported bed usage prompted a suggestion that hospitals maybe reconsider some elective surgeries. That then led to Banner Health's media blitz blaming everyone from the Governor to the corner barista for carpet bombing AZ with Covid. As always, "follow the money."
 
  • #437
I'm still furious about the Covid-19 virus.
Absolutely furious.
The Mayhem that has been unleashed on the entire world MUST NEVER happen again! NEVER.
There is only one thing that little ole me can do.
I personally, will not buy anything from China
Nothing.
Seriously angry me
What about the 1918 flu epidemic that, most likely, began in Kansas? Should we blackball Kansas? (Sometimes called the Spanish flu, it had nothing to do with starting in Spain, only that Spain reported it during WW I.)
 
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Kensie, I'm so sorry to hear you broke your ankle.
That must very hurting and frustrating. I hope it needs quickly!

KALI, this feeling of hopelessness is so depressing. So many things that we cannot control and we are exposed to all of this. I have depression issues and have for a long time but now, I feel overwhelmed and want to give up. We will make it KALI. There has got to be light at the end of this tunnel that keeps on going.

Apparently in my state, the number of cases has doubled since it re-opened. No surprise between the beaches opening and the protests. What is happening in the world today?????

New coronavirus cases almost double after reopening

I broke my ankle and now I am having facial spasms. Are these facial spasms stress related or just a blood vessel hitting a nerve. More than likely a blood vessel hitting a nerve but heck, I want life back to normal before 2020.
 
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