Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #61

[Anance]

Coronavirus can infect nostrils MUCH more easily than the lungs | Daily Mail Online

Another article that points out how important it is to wear a mask PROPERLY OVER THE NOSE (DUH)--- because the virus infects the nostrils much more easily than the lungs

That's a pet peeve of mine. I'm constantly explaining, "Feel the wire - now shape it over your nose. See it fits better!"

 

[katydid23]

For some reason people want to believe the sun and heat kills that virus--- it doesn't---wish it did though.

In a news release from the University of Georgia, Professor Travis Glenn interpreted the study for the public. Glenn, who was not directly involved in the study, said “Coronavirus lives a few days on many surfaces at room temperature, but it dies far faster at higher temperatures.” The aforementioned study noted that SARS-CoV-2 (the novel coronavirus) was similar to SARS-CoV-1 and that their responses to heat may also be similar. Glenn points out in the press release that “If you heat a material up to 130 degrees F, which is the high setting on a dryer or a very low oven setting, you only need about 20 minutes to kill greater than 99.99% of the virus.” At 15o degrees F or higher, it only takes about five minutes to kill the same percentage of virus. However, it may not be practical to throw your mask or package in the oven. The clothes dryer is a good alternative for the masks, but what about those packages?

According to Null’s website, “The atmosphere and the windows of a car are relatively “transparent” to the sun’s shortwave radiation (yellow in figure above) and are warmed little.” As you see in the graphic (or from your own personal experience), it is brutally hot inside a car left in the sun. Dark materials (dashboards, seats, and other objects) heat up significantly and then heat the air through the processes of convection and conduction. The objects also emit infrared (heat) energy. However, this automotive “greenhouse” effect could be useful in killing coronavirus according to Null.


Could Sunlight And Heat In Your Car Be A Weapon Against Coronavirus On Packages And Masks?


A more recent study by Grundstein also affirmed and extended these number. Null says that one place to get the heat required to kill the virus on a package might be the mask. However, it is important that only inanimate objects or products not sensitive to heat be considered for this practice. Dr. Calvin Mackie is a renowned engineer and STEM ambassador. The founder of STEMNola told me, “I keep my mask on the dashboard of my car for this reason.”

 

[musicaljoke]

If someone is repeatedly coughing, they shouldn't be out in public, even if masked. If they are in a clinic or doc's office, then hopefully they can be moved away from others.

But if someone is ill and coughing, why would they be out and around others?

Some people just don't have an inner monitor that tells them their behaviour is out of bounds.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

Coronavirus: At least a quarter of people who test positive missed by contact tracers

At least a quarter of people who test positive for COVID-19 in the UK are being missed by contact tracers following up who they could have transmitted the virus on to.

Of the 5,949 people who tested positive for coronavirus between 4 and 10 June, 73% provided details of who they had been in close contact with, according to the latest NHS figures.

But of the 44,895 people who were identified as close contacts of these people - and potentially at risk of having caught COVID-19 - more than 40,900 (90%) were reached and asked to self-isolate.

The figures mean that at least a quarter of people who test positive for the virus are being missed because there is a disparity between the numbers of people testing positive and the numbers being referred to the contact tracers.

Yesterday, Health Secretary Matt Hancock explained the disparity was "largely because they are in-patients in hospital and therefore testing and tracing in the normal sense doesn't apply".

But the previous week Professor John Newton said there was "quite a lot of double counting in the number of cases reported", and Baroness Dido Harding has confirmed there are "errors in the data".

According to the data, the proportion of people who are missed by the contact tracing teams has remained largely unchanged from the week before.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

Coronavirus: Hundreds test positive for COVID-19 in German slaughterhouse

Hundreds of workers have tested positive for COVID-19 at a slaughterhouse in northern Germany, prompting to the closure of local schools and an urgent investigation.

Toennies, one of Germany's biggest meat processors, said it had stopped slaughtering on Wednesday and was shutting the abattoir in stages.

More than 1,000 workers were tested and a total of 657 people tested positive for coronavirus, DW News reported.

And around 7,000 people in the district of Gutersloh, where the abattoir is located, have been put into quarantine due to possible exposure of the virus.

The local government authority said it would close schools and kindergartens from Thursday as a precautionary measure.

 

[musicaljoke]

This link says Az is 20th in the country.

COVID-19 cases in Arizona surpass 40,000; deaths increase by 20 | AZ Big Media

Arizona is among 14 states seeing a surge in COVID-19 cases. Arizona has hit its highest seven-day average of new COVID-19 cases since the beginning of the pandemic. Nationwide protests, relaxed stay-at-home limitations and reopenings could play a role in increasing numbers, according to The Washington Post.

The surging numbers gave some health officials concern. But Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey, who relaxed COVID-19 restrictions two weeks ago, said in a news conference Thursday that he is not planning to change course. Calls seeking comment from his office Friday were not immediately returned.

“I am confident that we’ve made the best and most responsible decisions possible, guided by public health the entire way,” Ducey said Thursday. “This virus is not going away.”

Arizona ranks No. 20 among states with the most confirmed COVID-19 cases. New York leads the nation with the highest number of COVID-19 cases.

In terms of a per capita basis, on a 7-day average, Arizona has 212 cases per million population and Arizona ranks number one.

 

[Sundog]

They are all attending at their own risk and signing a waiver so if there is any spread they have accepted the risk by attending. We cannot stay locked up forever. The health services are coping and life has to get back to normal. Stimulus and furlough payments will stop and people have to go back to work. We have a treatment now and everyone knows their vulnerabilities.

In August, students will return to face to face instruction - and this will happen at 77% of the country's colleges and universities who plan to reopen in mid-August, according to the Chronicle of Higher Education survey. On our campus, that is 30,000 students who will return to face-to-face instruction. But I don't hear the media talking about these risks to faculty, staff and their families and communities around the universities.

ETA U.S. colleges and universities are lobbying Congress for a liability waiver that students, faculty and staff would have to sign before returning, like the rallies and other large events.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

They are handing out masks and hand sanitiser at the door, where temperatures are being checked.

Those sound like good precautionary measures.

Let's look at your list and see if it also matches the nationwide protests:
-large groups
-indoors
-close to each other for prolonged periods of time
-chanting and yelling (AKA spitting)
-general disregard for masks
-public restrooms

You must not have been paying attention, because I absolutely did express my concerns about COVID spread with BOTH sets of protests, unlike many here who only seemed concerned about the second set of protests. My concern regarding the spread of COVID has not got political boundaries.

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[tresir2012]

For some reason people want to believe the sun and heat kills that virus--- it doesn't---wish it did though.


Well that drug sounds like it gives us some hope----- one of the statements in this article discusses how the virus gets into your nose and then into your lungs while you sleep: i don't understand that- how do we get infected with virus while we sleep? Exposure occurs when you come in contact with someone who has the virus sneezes, coughs or breathes on you---for enough time to allow the virus to spread to another person- how does this translate to getting the virus into your nose during the night- or does that mean while you sleep the virus keeps replicating in your nose?

The virus gets in the nose then when you sleep it can run back into your throat and you breath it into your lungs. Squirting this in your nose before you go to bed would prevent that allegedly.

 

[tresir2012]

51 workers catch Covid-19 at KFC and M&S meat plant

A chicken processing plant that has contracts with KFC, Tesco and Marks & Spencer has suspended production and closed due to a coronavirus outbreak.

Public Health Wales said there were 51 confirmed Covid-19 cases at 2 Sisters in Llangefni on Anglesey, with 110 people said to be self-isolating.

Closing the plant for two weeks, the company said it was to "demonstrate how seriously we take this issue".

Health Minister Vaughan Gething admitted the outbreak was a "concern".

He said the outbreak "reiterates the importance of social distancing and hand hygiene".

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"About a quarter of the 500-strong workforce at the chicken processing plant were self-isolating, according to unions, while the company had introduced thermal temperature checks and employed marshalls to ensure social distancing was maintained."

This is the first I have heard about CV in meat packing plants in UK. A bit worrying that a quarter of the staff are self isolating.

 

[ilovewings]

In a news release from the University of Georgia, Professor Travis Glenn interpreted the study for the public. Glenn, who was not directly involved in the study, said “Coronavirus lives a few days on many surfaces at room temperature, but it dies far faster at higher temperatures.” The aforementioned study noted that SARS-CoV-2 (the novel coronavirus) was similar to SARS-CoV-1 and that their responses to heat may also be similar. Glenn points out in the press release that “If you heat a material up to 130 degrees F, which is the high setting on a dryer or a very low oven setting, you only need about 20 minutes to kill greater than 99.99% of the virus.” At 15o degrees F or higher, it only takes about five minutes to kill the same percentage of virus. However, it may not be practical to throw your mask or package in the oven. The clothes dryer is a good alternative for the masks, but what about those packages?

According to Null’s website, “The atmosphere and the windows of a car are relatively “transparent” to the sun’s shortwave radiation (yellow in figure above) and are warmed little.” As you see in the graphic (or from your own personal experience), it is brutally hot inside a car left in the sun. Dark materials (dashboards, seats, and other objects) heat up significantly and then heat the air through the processes of convection and conduction. The objects also emit infrared (heat) energy. However, this automotive “greenhouse” effect could be useful in killing coronavirus according to Null.


Could Sunlight And Heat In Your Car Be A Weapon Against Coronavirus On Packages And Masks?


A more recent study by Grundstein also affirmed and extended these number. Null says that one place to get the heat required to kill the virus on a package might be the mask. However, it is important that only inanimate objects or products not sensitive to heat be considered for this practice. Dr. Calvin Mackie is a renowned engineer and STEM ambassador. The founder of STEMNola told me, “I keep my mask on the dashboard of my car for this reason.”

I keep hearing that this virus is really not transmitted from touching surfaces- but is transmitted from human to human--- so if that is true why is there such concern about the virus on surfaces like boxes or the mail? That said, i do wash down every item of food i bring into the house and wash my hands after handling the mail and packages. I presume the concern is touching a surface and then touching your nose or eyes---

 

[tresir2012]

Everyone seems to be ignoring the huge elephant in the room. Why are we pretending Trump’s rally is going to end civilization as we know it but ignoring the fact that thousands of people in hundreds of cities are milling around in tent cities, using Porta potties or public bathrooms, standing shoulder to shoulder, screaming and spitting on police officers just inches from their faces, for weeks on end. Remember that black people had a very high rate of coronavirus before the protests? Imagine what it is now? Nobody cares that they want to kill grandma, because racism?

Nobody cares when it is seen as an opportunity to bash one side or the other I am finding. This virus spreads and is deadly to vulnerable groups. That is all we really know about it for sure.

 

[tresir2012]

I keep hearing that this virus is really not transmitted from touching surfaces- but is transmitted from human to human--- so if that is true why is there such concern about the virus on surfaces like boxes or the mail? That said, i do wash down every item of food i bring into the house and wash my hands after handling the mail and packages. I presume the concern is touching a surface and then touching your nose or eyes---

I think the touching surfaces then touching face is less of a risk than working 8 hours standing next to someone in a meat packing plant who has the virus. The worst spread has been in such factories and assembly lines and old peoples homes. I don't think I have heard of any case where someone has caught it from their groceries. Maybe heard of 1 case where someone thought they got it from a FedEx package, but that is all. My paramedic friend says they know all the CV locations, they have to know this to do their job. MOO.

 

[ilovewings]

Vaccine foes, anti-mask activists target public health officials — at their homes

This is pretty disgusting: Anti mask protestors and anti-vaxers target county health officers in California . These loonies are going to the homes of public health officers--

 

[tresir2012]

For some reason people want to believe the sun and heat kills that virus--- it doesn't---wish it did though.

It kills it on a mask in the car though.

 

[MimosaMornings]

In a news release from the University of Georgia, Professor Travis Glenn interpreted the study for the public. Glenn, who was not directly involved in the study, said “Coronavirus lives a few days on many surfaces at room temperature, but it dies far faster at higher temperatures.” The aforementioned study noted that SARS-CoV-2 (the novel coronavirus) was similar to SARS-CoV-1 and that their responses to heat may also be similar. Glenn points out in the press release that “If you heat a material up to 130 degrees F, which is the high setting on a dryer or a very low oven setting, you only need about 20 minutes to kill greater than 99.99% of the virus.” At 15o degrees F or higher, it only takes about five minutes to kill the same percentage of virus. However, it may not be practical to throw your mask or package in the oven. The clothes dryer is a good alternative for the masks, but what about those packages?

According to Null’s website, “The atmosphere and the windows of a car are relatively “transparent” to the sun’s shortwave radiation (yellow in figure above) and are warmed little.” As you see in the graphic (or from your own personal experience), it is brutally hot inside a car left in the sun. Dark materials (dashboards, seats, and other objects) heat up significantly and then heat the air through the processes of convection and conduction. The objects also emit infrared (heat) energy. However, this automotive “greenhouse” effect could be useful in killing coronavirus according to Null.


Could Sunlight And Heat In Your Car Be A Weapon Against Coronavirus On Packages And Masks?


A more recent study by Grundstein also affirmed and extended these number. Null says that one place to get the heat required to kill the virus on a package might be the mask. However, it is important that only inanimate objects or products not sensitive to heat be considered for this practice. Dr. Calvin Mackie is a renowned engineer and STEM ambassador. The founder of STEMNola told me, “I keep my mask on the dashboard of my car for this reason.”

That’s what I had been doing with the one dust particle mask I had - and I think the sunlight/heat contributed to the elastic disintegration. I put it on the other day and the elastic broke.

 

[tresir2012]

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The shopping is essential. The visiting concerts, rallies, sports, protests are not, it would be my or the persons choice, even though illegal. Don't patronize me please by changing what I wrote. I am fed up honouring the rules while idiots go to unregulated concerts and other illegal activities. Once concerts become legal then fine. Celebrities using their following to push political messages is just wrong, especially during a health pandemic.
MOO.

 

[tresir2012]

This kind of mask can actually spread the coronavirus. Here's how to fix it

Mask info. I bet a lot of people don't know this.

CALIFORNIA
This kind of mask can actually spread the coronavirus. Here’s how to fix it

An N95 mask that has a valve can let germs escape.
(Brenton Simpson)
By RONG-GONG LIN IISTAFF WRITER
JUNE 16, 2020
8:17 AM

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SAN FRANCISCO —

There’s a certain kind of N95 mask that’s actually bad to wear for public health during the coronavirus pandemic.

San Francisco’s health officer warns that N95 masks with a vent on them actually cause a person’s germs to spread, rather than containing them close to the wearer’s face.

The warning is in the San Francisco health order, which says that any mask with a one-way valve — designed to facilitate easy exhaling — “allows droplets to be released from the mask, putting others nearby at risk.”

“As a result, these masks are not a face covering under this order and must not be used to comply with this order’s requirements,” said the health order, signed by Dr. Tomás Aragón, the health officer for San Francisco.

Exhalation vents can make the face cooler and reduce moisture buildup inside a face covering, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said — but the vents allow unfiltered exhaled air to escape. That defeats the point of wearing a mask, which is to keep potentially infectious oral droplets from spraying outward to other people.

To convert the N95 masks that have vent holes in the front, simply place a piece of tape over the external vent to cover it, health experts said.

 

[tresir2012]

In terms of a per capita basis, on a 7-day average, Arizona has 212 cases per million population and Arizona ranks number one.

I still don't quite follow those maths. AZ has 41k cases total and 7.3 million poulation. So isn't that approx 6k cases per million? 212 cases per million would only be about 1400 cases.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

Coronavirus: Lockdown easing and face mask rules announced in Scotland

Lockdown restrictions in Scotland will be eased further on Friday, Nicola Sturgeon announced as the country moves to the next phase of its coronavirus response.

The first minister said people who live on their own or only with children under 18 are able to form an "extended household group" from Friday.

This means they can meet indoors without social distancing and can stay overnight as part of transition to phase two of the Scottish government's four-step plan to gradually lift restrictions.

Other new measures include:

• Scots can meet two other households at the same time while outside - up to a maximum of eight people from Friday
• They will also be able to go inside to use the toilet when meeting in someone else's garden
• Anyone leaving home should stay within a roughly five-mile radius of their home for recreational purposes
• Anyone shielding can go outside for exercise from Friday
• They can also meet people from one other household - maintaining social distancing
• Face coverings will be mandatory on public transport in Scotland from Monday

Ms Sturgeon added that from Monday the Scottish construction sector will move to the next phase of its restart plan.

Dentists will also be able to open, professional sport can resume and places of worship will be able to reopen - although only for individual prayer and not services.

From 29 June, outdoor markets, playgrounds and sports facilities will reopen in Scotland, along with attractions such as zoos, although visitors should not travel more than five miles from their homes and tickets should be bought in advance.

Non-essential shops will also be able to open from this date if they have outdoor entrances and exits.

Restrictions on moving house will also be dropped and weddings will be allowed to go ahead but only if they are outdoors and with "limited numbers".

Ms Sturgeon said there is "no date" for reopening beer gardens and outdoors spaces at restaurants.