Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #62

[Trident]

Disability Issues Brief: The ADA and Face Mask Policies

Examples of reasonable modifications to a face mask policy

• Allow a person to wear a scarf, loose face covering, or full face shield instead of a face mask;

I read most of that. The poor waitresses in "full face shield", where we went to dinner on an outside patio sans mask, was in misery and she's young and healthy.

I simply avoid places that have "strict" policies.

 

[Sundog]

Can anyone say the word: triage?

You probably didn't mean to attribute that newspaper headline to what I said, but the way you cut and pasted my post suggests that. Just a note for future editing. I have made similar errors myself.

 

[SouthAussie]

Liability waivers are very common right now, including for colleges and universities who are lobbying Congress to allow for liability waivers on campus for students and employees (faculty and staff). Many chambers of commerce are also working on these waivers for their communities. They are very common right now. Many hair salons have them as well.

It is a little hard for me to compare waivers for universities, hair salons, and small businesses (via the chambers of commerce) with waivers for mass gatherings to listen to political rhetoric and salesmanship. There are safer ways of delivering that at this dangerous time. imo

 

[jjenny]

I read most of that. The poor waitresses in "full face shield", where we went to dinner on an outside patio sans mask, was in misery and she's young and healthy.

I simply avoid places that have "strict" policies.

That full face shield might end up saving her life. For people who have a lot of trouble breathing in a mask, there are silk (some are even knit) or chiffon bandanas, balaclavas/gaiters one can buy on amazon, that are really easy to breathe through. It's probably not going to offer much protection (to either your or other people), but since anything qualifies as a face mask, they would qualify and you can still adhere to a mask policy. I purchased several, but I plan to put them on top of a mask. However the silk/chiffon ones are really cute and could be worn by themselves.

 

[Sundog]

Interesting. I've been seeing more face shields lately. Jmo

Speaking of face shields, can anyone recommend a quality brand of face shields and at a reasonable price? Would want them to be washable and reusable. I see a lot of them online, but have no idea of their quality and what reasonable cost should be.

 

[tresir2012]

Inventing statistics to make a point about the media not reporting his false statistics doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

It's just misleading and I really don't see the rationale in trying to justify this, especially as positive results are on the increase again in some areas.

"Coronavirus deaths are down 90% since late April" is a false statement.

Who is inventing statistics? Me or him do you mean?

I always check statistics and this graph is a visual showing the improvement in UK and USA deaths, which is what the article is referring to IMO.

Weekly confirmed COVID-19 deaths

Hope the link works.

 

[Legally Bland]

Who is inventing statistics? Me or him do you mean?

I've linked the invented 90% stat in my post.

 

[Bravo]

Speaking of face shields, can anyone recommend a quality brand of face shields and at a reasonable price? Would want them to be washable and reusable. I see a lot of them online, but have no idea of their quality and what reasonable cost should be.

I'm in Canada and picked up a couple at a store for personal use. IIRC they were 5.00 apiece. They are not the quality of shield I have at work but they are an extra layer of protection. I wouldn't wash them in super hot water but soapy warm water in a sink should do the trick. Hope this helps.

 

[Bravo]

All caught up now. Too many posts to thank. So thanks.

 

[Bravo]

Oh and I believe it was you Sundog asking why Windsor Ont. cases were so high. I have also read that due to so many migrant workers coming in to the surrounding area they have been hit hard. I'll try to find a link. I'm not sure what contributed to the spread. If any folks arrived with it or contracted it while here. With so many housed in bunker style places it would be an environment for spread.
ETA-https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/cbc-windsor-june-16-covid-19-update-heres-whats-happening-today/ar-BB15yZ40

 

[JerseyGirl]

Oh and I believe it was you Sundog asking why Windsor Ont. cases were so high. I have also read that due to so many migrant workers coming in to the surrounding area they have been hit hard. I'll try to find a link. I'm not sure what contributed to the spread. If any folks arrived with it or contracted it while here. With so many housed in bunker style places it would be an environment for spread.
ETA-https://
www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/cbc-windsor-june-16-covid-19-update-heres-whats-happening-today/ar-BB15yZ40

Similar problem in Miami-Dade, Florida:

Miami-Dade Mayor to Send “Surge Teams” to COVID-19 Stricken Areas

Miami-Dade Mayor Carlos Gimenez said “surge teams” will be sent this weekend to areas where doctors are noticing an increase in new COVID-19 infections.

About 100 people will go into such hot spots such as Little Havana and Homestead, an agricultural area with vegetable farms and nurseries. The teams will be knocking on doors and handing out kits with masks and hand sanitizers and offering hotel rooms to those who are ill and live in small homes with several people so they don’t infect others.

 

[weepingangel]

Here is what schools in Massachusetts will look like in the fall

Massachusetts (k-12)/more at link

When students across Massachusetts return to school this fall, class will not resume like pre-COVID times.

State education officials released guidance Thursday offering a glimpse into what educators and families can expect for the 2020-2021 school year.

“Part of our responsibility as educators, administrators, and parents is to do all that we can to help our children in this difficult time,” said Commissioner of Elementary and Secondary Education Jeffrey C. Riley. “As we all know, there is no substitute for the attention and engagement that is only possible with in-person learning. We can mitigate the risks associated with COVID-19 for in-person school programs and prevent the significant consequences of keeping students out of school and isolated. It will take all of us working together to make this successful.”

 

[Tippy Lynn]

The real debate in here seems to be who’s responsible for our health and well-being during a pandemic.

I don’t know about you guys, but I don’t want the government making decisions for me regarding my health and well-being. This isn’t a one size fits all virus/pandemic for people and places.
jmo

 

[tresir2012]

I've linked the invented 90% stat in my post.

The link doesn't load for me so I got the source data and put it in the graph for US and UK. It is a large fall clearly from the peak to now. If someone could copy and paste the quote that includes his 90% calculation it would help.

 

[jjenny]

The real debate in here seems to be who’s responsible for our health and well-being during a pandemic.

I don’t know about you guys, but I don’t want the government making decisions for me regarding my health and well-being. This isn’t a one size fits all virus/pandemic for people and places.
jmo

Government has always been involved in decisions on health. It has to be involved if disease is infectious. Because it's not only up to the individual, if this individual can infect others, on what this individual can be allowed to do.

 

[weepingangel]

Why these meatpacking workers fear for their health and safety amid COVID-19
Many U.S. meatpacking plants shut down this spring due to coronavirus outbreaks. Nationwide, more than 27,000 workers have become infected, and nearly 100 have died. But in late April, President Trump ordered the facilities to stay open, deeming them critical to preserving the nation’s meat supply. Special correspondent Fred de Sam Lazaro reports on the experiences of some of these workers.

 

[MimosaMornings]

I read most of that. The poor waitresses in "full face shield", where we went to dinner on an outside patio sans mask, was in misery and she's young and healthy.

I simply avoid places that have "strict" policies.

I have used curbside pickup for take out food, I’m not comfortable going to a restaurant - even outside dining. But that’s me, I’m cautious because of caregiving.

I understand wearing a mask is difficult for you, hopefully you can get curbside or delivery for groceries so you’re not around a lot of people.
My mother has lung issues and is on oxygen, she can wear one of the surgical masks for about 30 minutes at a time. Probably less if outside in the heat.

We get take out and go out on the back deck, get the basket with picnic ware, colorful plastic tablecloth, I put on a silly hat or something and make the best of it.
Oh, and wine helps.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Government has always been involved in decisions on health. It has to be involved if disease is infectious. Because it's not only up to the individual, if this individual can infect others, on what this individual can be allowed to do.

Yes, I'm fully aware that the government is already involved in our healthcare.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Major incident declared at packed beach

I had intended to be more positive today but arrrghhhh!!!! The interviewees in the clip beggar belief

 

[SouthAussie]

The real debate in here seems to be who’s responsible for our health and well-being during a pandemic.

I don’t know about you guys, but I don’t want the government making decisions for me regarding my health and well-being. This isn’t a one size fits all virus/pandemic for people and places.
jmo

I think of when we have measles or chickenpox we must stay away from other people, to protect those people.

We know there is a raging coronavirus pandemic. We don't know exactly who is carrying the virus. Protection seems the best avenue for all. Government input or no government input.