Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #62

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@JaneEyre the stupidest thing ever, is the "suggestion" that businesses are responsible for enforcing that their clientele wear masks, or risk being closed.

It is working at Costco, probably because the people who go to Costco are from a higher SES. But other retail stores? Not so much. My daughter (who works in retail) should not be held accountable to make some jerk who ignores a sign that requests patrons to wear a mask in the store. These people are already delusional, and as your article states, are predisposed to psychopathy.

Where I live doesn't require masks. And do you have data that states you end up on a ventilator if you don't wear a mask? How did the old people in homes get it? How are these meat plant workers getting it?

In the NJ/NY area you are required to wear a nose and mouth covering in public when indoors in public or outside in a crowd, such as at the beach or park - I visited my daughter in Brooklyn yesterday and most people wear them walking the streets. This includes mandatory masks at rest stops along the highways and interstates as well shopping or outside dining. I have to wear one at my inside desk job.

No mask? No Service! Need a mask? Here is a medical mask for purchase, always a display at some store entrances.

That how we help keep the numbers down here.

New York Gov. Cuomo says businesses will be allowed to deny entry to people not wearing a face covering

"I've been working to communicate this message about masks and how effective they are. They are deceptively effective. They are amazingly effective, and we've made them mandatory in public settings, public transportation, but when we talk about reopening stores and places of business, we're giving the store owners the right to say, 'If you're not wearing a mask, you can't come in.'" Cuomo said at a news briefing in Brooklyn.
 
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I the NJ/NY area you are required to wear a face covering in public when indoors in public or outside in a crowd, such as at the beach or park - I visited my daughter in Brooklyn yesterday and most people wear them walking the streets. This includes mandatory masks at rest stops along the highways and interstates as well shopping or outside dining.

No mask? No Service! Need a mask? Here is a medical mask for purchase.
That how we help keep the numbers down here.
I agree with you on this. I went out (in my small South Jersey town) Saturday morning and would not have been allowed in to do business if I didn't have on a mask. This includes coffee shop, RiteAid, Amish Market, and even the roadside farmer's market.

Plus at dinner Tuesday evening for the first in a restaurant for DH's birthday, even seated outside we had masks when exposed to the servers and hostess, and they were wearing face shields. Restaurant used disposable menus and drink glasses. I don't have a problem with all this if I can conduct my life more normally. In fact, I'm waiting for my Disney masks to arrive and will be excited to wear them (instead of the blue paper ones). :)
 
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Hundreds test positive at Tyson Foods plant in Arkansas

Hundreds test positive at Tyson Foods plant in Arkansas

If this has been posted already, I apologize. Once again we embarrass ourselves on the World stage.

So, we only find out due to China sending out the red flag, or was this outbreak already in the news before China told the media about it?

Does anyone know? (Sorry, haven't been following this thread as close as I did in the beginning so asking others)
 
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In 1957 they referred to it as the "Chinese flu", but it actually was a virus

1957-1958 Pandemic (H2N2 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC

I vaguely remember coming across this in the early days.

Interesting...

From the above link:

“In February 1957, a new influenza A (H2N2) virus emerged in East Asia, triggering a pandemic (“Asian Flu”). This H2N2 virus was comprised of three different genes from an H2N2 virus that originated from an avian influenza A virus, including the H2 hemagglutinin and the N2 neuraminidase genes. It was first reported in Singapore in February 1957, Hong Kong in April 1957, and in coastal cities in the United States in summer 1957. The estimated number of deaths was 1.1 million worldwide and 116,000 in the United States.“

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In old documentary I referenced upstream from 2005, “The Coming Pandemic”, iirc it predicted 40,000 million deaths.

We are well on our way. Things are not looking good globally moo, based on the recent WHO Conferences.
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1918 Pandemic (H1N1 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC

“It is estimated that about 500 million people or one-third of the world’s population became infected with this virus. The number of deaths was estimated to be at least 50 million worldwide with about 675,000 occurring in the United States.”

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Eta / Article from 2005:

The Coming Influenza Pandemic: Lessons From the Past for the Future | The Journal of the American Osteopathic Association
 
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How’s this for a statement?

If you don’t like wearing a mask, you’ll hate the ventilator.
I know this is a FB link but it is a video of the pastors at the Dream City Church saying they have fitted a new system that filters 99.9% of Covid germs. I will self alert to get permission for this as it is pretty important (if true). This is where POTUS is speaking next.

Dream City Church

Mods. Please authorize this but delete if not allowable.
My "take" on this is if it were true, it would be national news and would be being used everywhere. Gee. Why wouldn't this, as a church, be willing to share it, if true?
 
  • #187
Clark County Health Department

This is from my local health dept. If anyone knows CPR and leaves their home, even occasionally, you might consider looking into this app if you don't mind helping other people.

I'm sure lack of togetherness, deaths, anxiety, etc are not helping.

Jmo
 
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I agree with you on this. I went out (in my small South Jersey town) Saturday morning and would not have been allowed in to do business if I didn't have on a mask. This includes coffee shop, RiteAid, Amish Market, and even the roadside farmer's market.

Plus at dinner Tuesday evening for the first in a restaurant for DH's birthday, even seated outside we had masks when exposed to the servers and hostess, and they were wearing face shields. Restaurant used disposable menus and drink glasses. I don't have a problem with all this if I can conduct my life more normally. In fact, I'm waiting for my Disney masks to arrive and will be excited to wear them (instead of the blue paper ones). :)

Happy Birthday to your hubby! Outside dining what a luxury! Reservations at restaurants here are mandatory because of limited seating and everyone wants to get out after spending 3 months inside.

New Jersey just opened their restaurants to outside dining this week and today New York moves to Phase 2 and will allow outside dining (with masks). It’s cute seeing some of these normally inside restaurants set up tables and chair, lighting, and landscaping making some places really cute and cozy outside in parking lots. We don’t have many outside dining places here except along the waterfront so it’s nice to find our neighborhood restaurants have a nooks for outside dining.
 
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Recovered Covid-19 patients might be defenceless against mutation, study says

  • Antibodies found in blood of people who have fought disease failed to stop D614G, Chinese scientists say
  • Mutant form identified in genetic data of samples collected at Xinfadi food market in Beijing where latest outbreak began

“Recovered Covid-19 patients in China may still be vulnerable to a mutant form of the pathogen spreading overseas, a new study says. According to Professor Huang Ailong from Chongqing Medical University, there is an urgent need to determine what threat the mutation, known as D614G, poses to people who have recovered from a different form of the virus.

D614G began spreading in Europe in early February and by May was the dominant strain around the world, presenting in 70 per cent of sequenced samples in Europe and North America.

Antibodies found in patients who had been infected with earlier forms of the pathogen failed to neutralise the mutant strain, the scientists said in paper published on Biorxiv.org, a preprint website, which means it has not been peer-reviewed.”

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Eta:
SCORE! Tons of studies here:
bioRxiv COVID-19 SARS-CoV-2 preprints from medRxiv and bioRxiv

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Characterization of 100 sequential SARS-CoV-2 convalescent plasma donations

Characterizing transcriptional regulatory sequences in coronaviruses and their role in recombination

RNA-Dependent RNA Polymerase From SARS-CoV-2. Mechanism Of Reaction And Inhibition By Remdesivir

Genomic diversity and hotspot mutations in 30,983 SARS-CoV-2 genomes: moving toward a universal vaccine for the "confined virus"?
 
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Disneyland Paris says gradual reopening to start July 15

Disneyland Paris said it would begin a "phased reopening" of the theme park starting July 15, with visitor numbers limited via a new online reservation system to ensure social distancing.

Visitors aged 11 and older will have to wear face masks, and many shows and events will remain suspended due to the pandemic, the resort said.

WHO chief says COVID-19 pandemic still accelerating: Live updates
 
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Happy Birthday to your hubby! Outside dining what a luxury! Reservations at restaurants here are mandatory because of limited seating and everyone wants to get out after spending 3 months inside.

New Jersey just opened their restaurants to outside dining this week and today New York moves to Phase 2 and will allow outside dining (with masks). It’s cute seeing some of these normally inside restaurants set up tables and chair, lighting, and landscaping making some places really cute and cozy outside. We don’t have many outside dining places here except along the waterfront so it’s nice to find our neighborhood restaurants have a nooks for outside dining.
Thanks! He's lucky. Recovered from CoVid and the first to be able to celebrate anything at an actual restaurant.

Most restaurant and even the wineries do require reservations. OpenTable is used by lots of them. This particular place posted on FB just come, no reservation required, and stay as long as you like. They opened up the parking lot behind the building for a large dining and outdoor bar area. We got to sit on the front porch, which is something I've always wanted to do at this place anyway.

Even our local diner has fenced off a large section of the parking lot and place picnic tables out there. I saw tons enjoying breakfast there Saturday morning. Necessity is the mother of invention, as they say. I say, so is ingenuity.
 
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Happy Birthday to your hubby! Outside dining what a luxury! Reservations at restaurants here are mandatory because of limited seating and everyone wants to get out after spending 3 months inside.

New Jersey just opened their restaurants to outside dining this week and today New York moves to Phase 2 and will allow outside dining (with masks). It’s cute seeing some of these normally inside restaurants set up tables and chair, lighting, and landscaping making some places really cute and cozy outside. We don’t have many outside dining places here except along the waterfront so it’s nice to find our neighborhood restaurants have a nooks for outside dining.

How do you dine with masks?
 
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I have no desire to get into a mask fight with you. Believe what you wish. You can choose to wear a mask or not. Have a nice day.
I live somewhere that does not need a mask. So I choose not to. I have assessed my risk. That doesn't mean I will end up on a ventilator unless you have a link that confirms that. Catching CV and having underlying health conditions is what will put you on a ventilator. If I lived in London or New York then the situation could be different. I am not going to wander around the isolated Welsh Hills wearing a mask.
 
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Top Democrats say Trump sitting on $14 billion for coronavirus testing, contact tracing

Sens. Chuck Schumer and Patty Murray are calling on the administration to immediately free up the funds.

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration has been sitting on nearly $14 billion in funding that Congress passed for coronavirus testing and contact tracing, according to Democratic Sens. Chuck Schumer of New York and Patty Murray of Washington.

The top Democrats said in a letter Sunday to Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar that the Trump administration has "still failed" to distribute more than $8 billion out of $25 billion appropriated by Congress to expand testing and contact tracing. The letter indicated that Congress passed these funds as part of a coronavirus relief bill in April...

Note: For informational purposes. Not intended for discussion. Thanks!
 
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South Korea says it is battling 'second wave' of coronavirus

Health authorities in South Korea said for the first time it is in the midst of a "second wave" of novel coronavirus infections around Seoul, driven by small but persistent outbreaks stemming from a holiday in May.

"We originally predicted that the second wave would emerge in fall or winter. Our forecast turned out to be wrong. As long as people have close contact with others, we believe that infections will continue."

WHO chief says COVID-19 pandemic still accelerating: Live updates
 
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“HOUSTON – If Harris County continues on the same new case trajectory as it is on at present, Houston could become the worst affected city in the U.S., according to nationally recognized infectious disease expert, Dr. Peter Hotez of the Baylor College of Medicine.

In a tweet Saturday morning, Hotez said if things continue as they are, Harris County could rival the situation that is currently being seen in Brazil.

“If we continue on the same trajectory, my worry is Houston could become the worst affected city right now in North America,” Hotez said in an interview with KPRC 2.“

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“Finally, his third prediction in his tweet was that the county “would need to proceed to red alert.” As of Sunday night, Harris County is listed at Orange Level 2 on the COVID-19 Threat Level System. This means there is a significant and uncontrolled spread of the virus in the county. To be upgraded to the Red Level 1 the spread of the virus would have to be classified as severe and uncontrolled.“

-more at link
If Harris County continues same coronavirus track, Houston could be worst affected city in US, expert says

He also goes on to say how wearing a mask is not enough, and this is so important imo as Dr. Mike also still talks about how mask-wearing should be part of “comprehensive package”.

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“I cannot really see how things get better on their own. In such case we must take steps to protect Houston - even if it means defying the "health freedom" antiscience crazies . I'm willing to take the heat - they don't care for me much anyway from my staunch defense of #vaccines
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— Prof Peter Hotez MD PhD (@PeterHotez) June 20, 2020

Quoting the tweets from your link.



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I cannot really see how things get better on their own. In such case we must take steps to protect Houston - even if it means defying the "health freedom" antiscience crazies . I'm willing to take the heat - they don't care for me much anyway from my staunch defense of #vaccines




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Latest #COVID19 for Harris County, my observations if this trajectory persists: 1) Houston would become the worst affected city in the US, maybe rival what we're seeing now in Brazil 2) The masks = good 1st step but simply won't be enough 3) We would need to proceed to red alert



Is this the guy selling a book?

I wonder what caused that massive uptick?
 
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Thanks! He's lucky. Recovered from CoVid and the first to be able to celebrate anything at an actual restaurant.

Most restaurant and even the wineries do require reservations. OpenTable is used by lots of them. This particular place posted on FB just come, no reservation required, and stay as long as you like. They opened up the parking lot behind the building for a large dining and outdoor bar area. We got to sit on the front porch, which is something I've always wanted to do at this place anyway.

Even our local diner has fenced off a large section of the parking lot and place picnic tables out there. I saw tons enjoying breakfast there Saturday morning. Necessity is the mother of invention, as they say. I say, so is ingenuity.
Think this is wonderful as long as the weather holds. Rain? Snow?
 
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I agree with you on this. I went out (in my small South Jersey town) Saturday morning and would not have been allowed in to do business if I didn't have on a mask. This includes coffee shop, RiteAid, Amish Market, and even the roadside farmer's market.

Plus at dinner Tuesday evening for the first in a restaurant for DH's birthday, even seated outside we had masks when exposed to the servers and hostess, and they were wearing face shields. Restaurant used disposable menus and drink glasses. I don't have a problem with all this if I can conduct my life more normally. In fact, I'm waiting for my Disney masks to arrive and will be excited to wear them (instead of the blue paper ones). :)
Did you order the ones from shopDisney or from Etsy? My shopDisney ones arrive today! We also have several Disney ones I've ordered from Etsy. We are a Disney family! :)
 
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