Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #62

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  • #241
You can wear a mask and still end up on a ventilator.

there are no guarantees- no one guarantees a mask will keep you from contracting Covid- it is a tool in the arena of precautions and makes lots of sense because it is
a barrier: if someone sneezes or coughs and has a mask on, the barrier will prevent
the droplets from flying really far- the droplets will be more contained in the mask, and thus helps prevent the spread of the virus.
 
  • #242
In the early days of HIV many drugs were given by aerosol to prevent and treat pneumonia.

This may have some promise, especially in early days of treatment.

Gilead to start testing inhaled version of experimental coronavirus drug remdesivir, CEO says

Remdesivir, which recently received emergency use approval to treat patients with COVID-19, will be tested in an inhaled version, biotech Gilead Sciences said on Monday.

In an open letter obtained by Fox News, Gilead CEO and Chairman Daniel O'Day said the inhaled version could allow the drug to be administered more easily outside of a hospital setting. It is not able to be given in pill form and is only administered intravenously.

"If the trials are successful, this could represent important progress," O'Day wrote.
 
  • #243
Arizonans express frustration trying to get a COVID-19 test or test results
One lady:
"...she lied on the pharmacy questionnaire and still got denied."
And in reference to another:
"...she's paying the consequence of telling the truth."

Even though the story is about the lack of available testing, it strikes me a sea change that misrepresenting one's symptoms or exposure is becoming a part of the conversation.
 
  • #244
Not sure if this has been posted. UK deaths reported today as 15 - the lowest daily rate since March 15th. Of course it will bounce back up tomorrow as it's a weekend report, but hoping to see further overall drops in the coming days.

UK coronavirus cases fall to pre-lockdown level
 
  • #245
So, so far it doesn't appear that covid behaves like the flu. It doesn't go away in the summer. It seems to be flourishing in states where weather is very hot. It might not provide long lasting immunity, in which case, how is vaccine going to be successful? This is one tricky darn virus. And a lot of people seem to act as if it doesn't exists, refuse to wear masks and not gather in large numbers, and so on. We are in for a bumpy ride.
 
  • #246
Many recovered coronavirus patients are anything but

Written by Chris Reed

June 21, 2020


Many recovered coronavirus patients are anything but

Among the more than 1,000 people who have had the coronavirus in Southern Utah, there are 697 people who are considered recovered.



But while the dictionary defines being recovered as returning to a “normal state of health,” many who have had the virus locally have hardly been able to return to “normal.”



“There’s a spectrum in those who have recovered that they’re not hospitalized but not in their normal health standards and not able to do activity for several months,” said Dr. Angela Dunn, state epidemiologist with the Utah Department of Health.

[...]

To free up the quickly-filling beds, hospitals like Dixie Regional are sending coronavirus patients home as soon as they are past the point where they could die, but not necessarily “feeling better.”



“People discharged from hospital don’t just go back to their daily lives,” Dunn said.



A large majority of those infected haven’t been in the hospital at all. As of Friday, the Utah Department of Health said 92.7% of those who have gotten the virus in the state have not been hospitalized. But many are still having to suffer with severe symptoms at home. Hospitalizations are reserved for those with the most severe of symptoms.



And those symptoms aren’t going away after what was thought to be the two-week gestation period of the virus.



Social media is filled with examples of people who describe being on day 50, 70, 80 after getting diagnosed with COVID-19 and still dealing with its symptoms.

For some, it can be still not getting a sense of taste or smell back. For others, it is dealing with more severe conditions like uncontrollable coughing, inability to walk without pain, an on-and-off fever, damaged lungs and mini strokes.

A recent article in The Atlantic detailed several people who still feel sick long after they were considered “recovered” from the coronavirus.

Many of the coronavirus survivors have coined the term “long-haulers” online to describe having to deal with the effects of the virus long after they moved into the category of recovered.



Another online article, on the Upworthy website, compiles Twitter messages from nurses on the front line about patients considered recovered, including some of the nurses themselves.


They describe feeling “better,” then being bedridden three months later.

Some are in need of lung transplants or have gone from being perfectly healthy to eight weeks later having kidney failure and now needing dialysis for the rest of their lives.

A 24-year-old nurse describes chest pains and being unable to go up stairs months after her diagnosis.
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Cherie Antoinette

@sheriantoinette

Jun 14

COVID 19 is the worst disease process I’ve ever worked with in my 8 years as an ICU nurse.

When they say “recovered” they don’t tell you that that means you may need a lung transplant. Or that you may come back after d/c with a massive heart attack or stroke bc COVID makes blood thick as hell. Or that you may have to be on oxygen for the rest of your life. COVID is designed to kill. It is a highly intelligent virus and it attacks everything. We will run out of resources if we don’t continue to flatten the curve. I’m exhausted.

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Alicia

@YeahImAlicia

Jun 14

I am a nurse on a COVID floor, I caught it. I am a relatively healthy 24year old & could barely walk up a half flight of stairs. My blood pressure skyrocketed, chest pain was debilitating. I’m 8 weeks out and still feeling the chest pain and shortness of breath. This is no joke.
Last Friday was 3 months after I was unwell. I have been lots better, but on Friday it felt like all my joints were aching. My elbows, shoulders, even my toes. I was so tired I had to stop work at 2pm and retreated to the sofa under a throw, cuddling the dog. I felt pretty low. The problem is, a lot of us on lockdown could feel like that, so its hard to know what the cause is. Saturday I felt a bit better, Sunday normal.

I really want to ask for some tests, bloods or whatever, to see if anything picks up re damage. But I'm not in a hurry, it can wait until my GP surgery is less under pressure (and hopefully we will get reliable antibody tests).

I know I'm lucky btw. I got off lightly compared to so many :(
 
  • #247
Hey everyone,

Politicizing is not allowed. We realize it's difficult to separate Covid from politics in this discussion, but ...

If you are going to post about 1 or 1 million people attending a rally, a church event, etc, put on by God knows who, make sure your post indicates how the content of that post relates to Covid19 and isn't just about politics or political figures.

From Tricia's post at the beginning of each of these threads:


NO MATTER HOW FRUSTRATED YOU FEEL, HOW GRATEFUL YOU FEEL OR HOW YOU FEEL WITH ANY OF THE COMMENTS COMING FROM THE WHITEHOUSE OR THEIR ADMINISTRATION DO NOT PUT IT ON THIS THREAD. DO NOT PUT TOGETHER A POST THAT IS OBVIOUSLY A POLITICAL STATEMENT AND THEN TRY AND SAY IT IS NOT.
 
  • #248
Last Friday was 3 months after I was unwell. I have been lots better, but on Friday it felt like all my joints were aching. My elbows, shoulders, even my toes. I was so tired I had to stop work at 2pm and retreated to the sofa under a throw, cuddling the dog. I felt pretty low. The problem is, a lot of us on lockdown could feel like that, so its hard to know what the cause is. Saturday I felt a bit better, Sunday normal.

I know I'm lucky btw. I got off lightly compared to so many :(

As someone who got off lightly compared to many, what would you say to those people acting like everything's fine now, and the virus is under control?
 
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:mad: Maybe it is time for a human race reboot. People are pathetic.
Sadly - I feel like that is what this may turn out to be. A human race reboot.
 
  • #251
Walmart and Costco need to hire cowboys to lasso these folks and pull them back out to the parking lot so that employees don’t have to make physical contact with them.

I’m kidding, but also thinking we may need more cowboys...
I wouldn't mind meeting a masked cowboy
 
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  • #253
Walmart and Costco need to hire cowboys to lasso these folks and pull them back out to the parking lot so that employees don’t have to make physical contact with them.

I’m kidding, but also thinking we may need more cowboys...

You may be onto something. Here’s a cowboy hero in my part of Oregon who roped a guy stealing a bike from a Walmart customer. Made the national news. We need more folks like this. :)

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@10ofRods and others interested. Round 1 of testing on some library materials is complete.

(1) Hardback book cover (buckram cloth)
(2) Softback book cover
(3) Plain paper pages inside a closed book
(4) Plastic book covering (biaxially oriented polyester film)
(5) DVD case.

Results show that the SARS-CoV-2 virus was not detectable on the materials after three days of quarantine. The evaluation demonstrates that standard office temperature and relative humidity conditions typically achievable by any air-conditioned office space provide an environment that allows for the natural attenuation of SARS-CoV-2 present on these common materials after three days of quarantine.

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Global coronavirus cases top 9 million as outbreak surges in Brazil, India

Global coronavirus cases top 9 million as outbreak surges in Brazil, India

By Lisa Shumaker
4 hrs ago
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(Reuters) - Global cases of the novel coronavirus surpassed 9 million on Monday, as Brazil and India grappled with a surge in infections, and the United States, China and other hard-hit countries reported new outbreaks, according to a Reuters tally.
The first case was reported in China in early January and it took until mid-May to reach 4.5 million cases. It has taken just five weeks to double to 9 million cases, the tally shows.

The United States leads the world with the highest number of infections, at about 2.2 million or 25% of all reported cases.
 
  • #258
You may be onto something. Here’s a cowboy hero in my part of Oregon who roped a guy stealing a bike from a Walmart customer. Made the national news. We need more folks like this. :)

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I love this! We do need more folks like this. Do the right thing, and nobody gets shot--just roped and tied to a tree. (The 911 operator: "WHAT?")
 
  • #259
As someone who got off lightly compared to many, what would you say to those people acting like everything's fine now, and the virus is under control?
It worries me, honestly. I was so exhausted and I dont know if older people or weaker people will have the strength to fight it. I'm scared for my parents. I can only hope my family did have it too, we think so, but what does that mean anyway? We might get it again. I absolutely do not want to get it again. There was a moment for me. I got ill on a Friday and isolated in my bedroom. The following Thursday, Mr HKP said come on, you're coming outside. I said no, I cant be near you guys. He said look, you're not getting any better. In fact you're getting worse. We'll take our chances, come outside. If we're going to get it, we'll have it already. So I put a mask on, held my breath walking through the house and went out into the sun in my PJs. I could barely walk. They set me up on a comfy lounger with a blanket on me. I sat and watched the birds in the sun for a couple hours. After that, I did turn a corner and started to get some energy back. My rambling point is, I think it is such a fine line with this thing, how it goes.

I know we cant stay locked down forever but I wish people were more sensible. Minimise the risk within the bounds of possibility. As Tresir says, we have to wear masks now on transport. On Mr HKP's commute, fellow passengers wear them to board the train, then take them off on the quiet inside.

My son got it, btw. I felt terrible and responsible. Thankfully he didnt have it bad but I was gripped by fear as he went through the symptoms day by day. He's early 20s. Mr HKP recognised in my specific symptoms a "weird flu" he had earlier in March, so I do really hope he had it back then.
 
  • #260
@10ofRods and others interested. Round 1 of testing on some library materials is complete.

(1) Hardback book cover (buckram cloth)
(2) Softback book cover
(3) Plain paper pages inside a closed book
(4) Plastic book covering (biaxially oriented polyester film)
(5) DVD case.

Results show that the SARS-CoV-2 virus was not detectable on the materials after three days of quarantine. The evaluation demonstrates that standard office temperature and relative humidity conditions typically achievable by any air-conditioned office space provide an environment that allows for the natural attenuation of SARS-CoV-2 present on these common materials after three days of quarantine.

REALM Project: Happening Now

That's great news.
The library here, doesn't permit us to enter, but will hunt down any request we have.
Any ideas folk, to stop worrying about 'what next' with Covid 19, as being in a hot spot, I am staying indoors.
 
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