Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #62

[tresir2012]

Today starting at about 11:00 a.m. Eastern. Here is a link:

Watch Live: Fauci, Redfield To Testify On Trump Administration's COVID-19 Response

The committee's Democrats will likely press the witnesses for details on why the federal response has not been more effective, and whether Trump prevented health experts from taking action sooner.

At his campaign rally on Saturday in Tulsa, Okla., Trump said that he told his administration to "slow the testing down" for the coronavirus. McEnany praised the president's response. "We could have lost 3 million lives but we lost far fewer because Trump took action early," she told reporters.

The witnesses' prepared testimony suggests they may seek to highlight the expanded availability of testing, the numerous briefings between White House officials and state governors to coordinate a response, and the ongoing efforts to develop tests and treatments and vaccines for the coronavirus.

I agree he took action early - he closed flights to/from China early. Little did we all know it was already in both Europe and US in December. I wonder why we didn't know that?

 

[JerseyGirl]

Trump hints at 'generous' second coronavirus stimulus check. Here's how much you could get | Fox Business

President Trump signaled Monday that he's open to a second stimulus check for Americans. Asked during an interview whether he plans to give another cash payment to some Americans, Trump said: "Yeah we are. We are." "We will be doing another stimulus package," he added. "It'll be very good, it'll be very generous." Trump declined to say how much money Americans could see. "You'll find out about," he said. "You'll find out."

The White House has not officially taken a stance on a second stimulus payment.

One such package, the $3 trillion HEROES Act would send another round of $1,200 checks to American adults and children and expand the number of people who are eligible to receive the government aid. One criticism of the CARES Act, which sent up to $1,200 to Americans earning less than $75,000, was that it did not include older teens and college students.

But the HEROES Act broadens the scope of the money to include those individuals. The payments would be capped at $6,000 per household.

To see how much money you would receive through the HEROES Act, you can use this online calculator provided by Omni.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Do you have a MSM link for the first para?

Look for the complete Chris Wallace interview of Mercedes Schlepp (Trump campaign) from two days ago. It’s available on YouTube but I don’t know if I can link it unless it comes directly from the Fox site. The Trump campaign said it.

 

[squareandrabbet]

SBM

The people who worked at those restaurants no longer have jobs. The owners of the restaurants no longer have a business. The city no longer collects sales tax from income generated by those restaurants. The owner of the building where the restaurant is housed, no longer collects rent. The closing of any business in a city, impacts the economy of the city---which impacts you---whether you frequented that business often or never.

Two major chain stores in our city closed today. I've never shopped at either of them, nor ever planned to, but I find it troubling that they've closed---and I DO care.

yeah, it’s spreading in NYC too, where I took a stroll down a few blocks and saw these and about another 3 dozen destination stores still closed:

NBA gets sued by Manhattan landlord over $1.2million in back rent for its store on Fifth Avenue | Daily Mail Online

Valentino sues NYC landlord claiming Fifth Ave is no longer 'prestigious' after COVID-19 outbreak | Daily Mail Online

 

[pocketaccent]

https://www.newsweek.com/novak-djokovic-tests-positive-coronavirus-1512764

Novak Djokovic has announced he has tested positive for coronavirus, just days after two players participating in an exhibition tournament he took part in had also revealed they had contracted the virus.

In a statement released on Tuesday morning, the world No.1 revealed he was tested in Belgrade, Serbia, earlier this week and that the test had returned a positive result.

Croatia's Borna Coric, Grigor Dimitrov of Bulgaria and Viktor Troicki who all took part in the Adria Tour all tested positive over the weekend.

 

[MuddyTires]

Even asymptomatic patients need to open their eyes! COVID (could be a ticking time bomb)

MOO- People need to stop "gatherings". Wear a mask, shop and get what you need when necessary.
Visit a friend outdoors wearing a mask observing social distance.

Or... sit outside a closed window on your cell... no mask needed.

IMO this virus will have long term consequences, even with little to no symptoms.
The 20 (something) crowd needs to pay attention to what the scientific community is telling them!
They are also spreading COVID while asymptomatic.
"When they say ’recovered,’ they don’t tell you that that means you may need a lung transplant,”
"Or that you may come back after discharge with a massive heart attack or stroke, because COVID makes your blood thick as hell. Or that you may have to be on oxygen for the rest of your life.”
What they don't tell you about surviving COVID-19

Even asymptomatic patients need to open their eyes! COVID (could be a ticking time bomb)

MOO- People need to stop "gatherings". Wear a mask, shop and get what you need when necessary.
Visit a friend outdoors wearing a mask observing social distance.

Or... sit outside a closed window on your cell... no mask needed.

IMO this virus will have long term consequences, even with little to no symptoms.
The 20 (something) crowd needs to pay attention to what the scientific community is telling them!
They are also spreading COVID while asymptomatic.
"When they say ’recovered,’ they don’t tell you that that means you may need a lung transplant,”
"Or that you may come back after discharge with a massive heart attack or stroke, because COVID makes your blood thick as hell. Or that you may have to be on oxygen for the rest of your life.”
What they don't tell you about surviving COVID-19

An article built on a tweet from an actress and activist followed by the text (in some cases edited) of tweets in response--without any links to the actual tweets or accounts from which they claim--that the author specifically disclaims any representation as to their authenticity---very scientific indeed!

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

End of lockdown, Memorial Day add up to increase in coronavirus cases, experts say

Florida, Oregon, Texas and Arizona are among the states where case numbers are spiking.

The spike in coronavirus cases in Florida, Arizona, Oregon and other Southern and Western states can be traced back to around Memorial Day, when officials began loosening their lockdowns, health experts said Monday.

And in about two weeks, hospitals in those states could find themselves struggling to find enough beds for patients, one of the nation's top public health experts warned.

"In some smaller Southern towns, the per capita rates of infections could be as high as New York City was at its peak," Dr. Erik Toner of the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security said...

 

[JerseyGirl]

yeah, it’s spreading in NYC too, where I took a stroll down a few blocks and saw these and about another 3 dozen destination stores still closed:

NBA gets sued by Manhattan landlord over $1.2million in back rent for its store on Fifth Avenue | Daily Mail Online

Valentino sues NYC landlord claiming Fifth Ave is no longer 'prestigious' after COVID-19 outbreak | Daily Mail Online

How long ago was that? Things are opening up again in New York City after a 3 month shut down. Businesses are just opening now after Cuomo announced they can go to Phase 2 recovery yesterday, including Macy's which was hit by rioters a few weeks ago:

"We are pleased to announce that today, Macy's stores in New York City will begin re-opening for business, ready to safely serve customers in-store, online and on the go," the retailer said in a statement. "Macy's Herald Square, the company's iconic flagship re-opens featuring a curated assortment of must-have beauty, fashion, accessories and home, plus the perfect items to click and pick-up, for every occasion. Following Centers for Disease Control (CDC), as well as state and local guidance, Macy's stores in the NY Metro area are open to the public from 11 a.m. to 7 p.m., offering in-store shopping, as well as contact-free curbside pick-up."

Reopen News: NYC restaurants, barbershops, Macy's welcoming customers as Phase 2 begins

 

[margarita25]

Beijing Outbreak Shows Covid-19’s Insidious Ability to Hide

“Now, more than 200 people have tested positive across Beijing, schools are shut and thousands of domestic flights canceled. The resurgence offers a stark warning to countries that appear to have cut chains of transmission: The coronavirus’s ability to cause little or no symptoms in a large proportion of people enables it to spread silently for weeks -- even months -- creating viral reservoirs that can remain hidden until someone becomes sick enough to warrant testing.

“Transmission could have started a month earlier, with already so many asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic patients shedding lots of the virus into the environment,” George Gao, head of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention, told government advisers at a meeting in Shanghai last week. It’s possible the virus lurked in dark, humid conditions before it was amplified in infected people, he said.”

[...]

“”It’s possible that the outbreak itself started weeks before it was identified,” she said.”

[...]

“Elsewhere, countries from South Korea to Germany are battling new clusters, trying to stamp out sparks before they become raging fires.

“We can’t assume it’s ‘eliminated’ anywhere,” said Peter Collignon, a professor of clinical medicine at the Australian National University Medical School in Canberra, who advises the Australian government on infection control.

A lull in reported cases may reflect transmission has been suppressed to very low levels, Collignon said. Still, the virus may continue to infect people, albeit with minimal symptoms, and “can then flare up and spread if given the opportunity,” he said.“

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“To identify those carriers, the capital has dramatically ramped up its testing efforts. Authorities have said they plan to test all personnel working in high-risk industries, including farmers markets, catering services, supermarkets, shopping malls, and food and parcel deliveries, as well as health care staff and officials from the city's five designated "high-risk" and 38 "medium-risk" neighborhoods.“

China predicts "cliff-like drop" in Beijing's 2nd-wave coronavirus outbreak as testing ramps up

 

[squareandrabbet]

How long ago was that? Things are opening up again in New York City after a 3 month shut down. Businesses are just opening now after Cuomo announced they can go to Phase 2 recovery yesterday, including Macy's which was hit by rioters a few weeks ago:

"We are pleased to announce that today, Macy's stores in New York City will begin re-opening for business, ready to safely serve customers in-store, online and on the go," the retailer said in a statement. "Macy's Herald Square, the company's iconic flagship re-opens featuring a curated assortment of must-have beauty, fashion, accessories and home, plus the perfect items to click and pick-up, for every occasion. Following Centers for Disease Control (CDC), as well as state and local guidance, Macy's stores in the NY Metro area are open to the public from 11 a.m. to 7 p.m., offering in-store shopping, as well as contact-free curbside pick-up."

Reopen News: NYC restaurants, barbershops, Macy's welcoming customers as Phase 2 begins

I know they say they're opening; I was walking the streets after the dentist, because I live here, and not in a cave. You don't need to tell me the city is purportedly rebuilding.

The stroll I took was 8 days ago, according to the time stamp on my camera phone. 2-3 drugstores; 2 banks; 2 Zara's; a GameStop; a Build-A-Bear; an American Girl; Kate Spade; Michael Kors; Jewelers on 5th; Radio City (! guess since it's not Christmas); Warby Parker; Puma; H &M; Nordstrom Rack; L'Occitane; Oakley; Vans; a Best Buy; an Urban Outfitters; a Skechers; the 2-story North Face (I grant no immediate loss as it's not winter); MUJI; BCBG Max Azria; American Eagle Outfitters; GameStop; and the aforementioned suing Victoria's Secret, omitting a batch of places like souvenir stores and, oh, half of my local 7-Eleven, which was I assume broken into by people looking to steal their scratch-offs.

On Day 2 of Phase 1, which was I believe 2 days before I took my stroll, CNN's Brian Stelter was on his Twitter making fun of some civilian insisting otherwise, about how "everything" was back up and running, and he should know "because I live by Hudson Yards"; thus why I took my walk. I thought that seemed like obvious BS on his part, expecting people to have every looted or proactively protected store with all their plywood down and all their glass replaced one day into the process; and sure enough, I was right, Brian was wrong.

(Though it wouldn't surprise me if diBlasio ordered NYPD to guard the Oculus and Hudson Yards because anyone can see these are billion-dollar propositions and not million-dollar if destroyed; plus AFAIK the High Line is still closed so you can only get to it from 34th Street.)

 

[JerseyGirl]

The High Line has been closed since March 16 due to COVID, it's a pedestrian walkway where there is no room to social distance. Not surprising for it to still be shut down.

And no one is looking to destroy The Oculus or Hudson Yards. That's just silly.

I was in Brooklyn on Sunday and just about every shop was open.

 

[squareandrabbet]

At the risk of stating the obvious, Brooklyn is not Fifth Avenue; and there's been a fair amount of ink in the papers about how Fifth Avenue was boarded up from stem to stern.

 

[JerseyGirl]

At the risk of stating the obvious, Brooklyn is not Fifth Avenue; and there's been a fair amount of ink in the papers about how Fifth Avenue was boarded up from stem to stern.

I don't know what ink you are reading, but 5th Avenue is up and running:

Saks to Reopen Fifth Avenue Flagship With UV Handrail Cleaners, Video Shopping Service

From June 11 article:
Fifth Avenue's Luxury Stores Reopen From Coronavirus Closures
Luxury retailers such as Saks Fifth Avenue, Cartier, Louis Vuitton and Tiffany & Co. opened for curbside pickup Thursday, a few days after New York City entered "Phase One" of its coronavirus recovery, the Fifth Avenue Association announced. The association represents stores, restaurants and other businesses along Fifth Avenue from 46th to 61st streets and businesses on 57th Street between Madison and Sixth avenues.

"Today we celebrate being able to bring back part of the Fifth Avenue experience to consumers," Jerome Barth, president of the Fifth Avenue Association, said in a statement. "We are excited about re-opening and for Fifth Avenue's future. One thing that has been abundantly clear to us through the last few months is just how much people miss the Fifth Avenue experience and we look forward to providing it once again."

List of the Fifth Avenue Association stores that are open:
https://fifthavenue.nyc/special-events/

Phase 2 yesterday and now they can open for inside service with limited customers.

 

[MuddyTires]

The scientific reality is that:

Deaths from COVID-19 have fallen off a cliff. Daily COVID-19 deaths are now getting close to falling down to a level comparable to the average number of daily off-season influenza deaths.

COVID-19 is deadly to those in hospice care, including the elderly in poor health condition and those with critical health conditions.

If you're healthy and under the age of 70, the fatality rate from COVID appears likely to be less than the fatality rate for influenza among that same population.

Those whose immunities are compromised (including from certain cancers, chemotherapy treatments, taking immuno suppressants, etc.) have a much higher likelihood of having severe issues with COVID-19 and need to protect themselves.

Those with severe cardiovascular disease have a much higher likelihood of having severe issues with COVID-19 and need to protect themselves.

Those who are diabetic and not keeping up with their recommended diet and exercise are much more likely to have severe issues with COVID-19 and need to protect themselves.

Those who are significantly overweight are much more likely to have severe issues with COVID-19 and need to protect themselves.

The few controlled studies on asymptomatic spread of COVID-19, suggest it is very rare.

There's more than sufficient ICU capacity and PPE at this point to avoid COVID-19 overwhelming our medical system, particularly given we're now in the summer season.

The multi-month lockdown has brought with it isolation, economic hardship, and high stress--each of which are significantly correlated with suicide, drug and alcohol abuse, violence, and heart disease. Indeed, several voices in the scientific medical community are suggesting that our response to COVID-19 will ultimately have a more significant adverse and long term public health impact than COVID-19 itself.

One of the biggest lessons from this should be that the best way to protect yourself from viruses such as COVID-19, influenza, etc. is to do what you can to keep yourself and your immune system healthy:

• maintain a healthy body weight
• eat healthy meals and limit sugar intake
• stay active and exercise regularly
• get 7 to 8 hours of good sleep each night
• have time in the sun and otherwise ensure you are taking in sufficient levels of Vitamin D
• do not smoke
• maintain good relationships with family and friends
• get a physical every year and keep up with recommended diagnostic tests for your gender/age group
• maintain good oral health by regularly brushing teeth, flossing, using moutwash and visiting a dentist at least once if not twice a year
• allow yourself time for one or more hobbies that you enjoy
• practice healthy stress relief habits and mindfulness
• regularly wash your hands

 

[squareandrabbet]

I don't know what ink you are reading, but 5th Avenue is up and running:

Saks to Reopen Fifth Avenue Flagship With UV Handrail Cleaners, Video Shopping Service

From June 11 article:
Fifth Avenue's Luxury Stores Reopen From Coronavirus Closures
Luxury retailers such as Saks Fifth Avenue, Cartier, Louis Vuitton and Tiffany & Co. opened for curbside pickup Thursday, a few days after New York City entered "Phase One" of its coronavirus recovery, the Fifth Avenue Association announced. The association represents stores, restaurants and other businesses along Fifth Avenue from 46th to 61st streets and businesses on 57th Street between Madison and Sixth avenues.

"Today we celebrate being able to bring back part of the Fifth Avenue experience to consumers," Jerome Barth, president of the Fifth Avenue Association, said in a statement. "We are excited about re-opening and for Fifth Avenue's future. One thing that has been abundantly clear to us through the last few months is just how much people miss the Fifth Avenue experience and we look forward to providing it once again."

List of the Fifth Avenue Association stores that are open:
https://fifthavenue.nyc/special-events/

Phase 2 yesterday and now they can open with limited customers.

Storefronts slow to get back to business on first day of NYC's reopening - amNewYork

I said the entirety of Fifth Avenue in Manhattan was boarded up; and it had plenty of ink on it. Here is video for anyone who missed it the first time around:

https://nypost.com/2020/06/03/what-the-streets-of-manhattan-look-like-after-days-of-riots/

My original links discussed businesses on Fifth Avenue in Manhattan that are still boarded up and intend to stay so, apparently, while suing to get out of their leases; which included J Crew, Victoria's Secret, and the aforementioned Valentino. I don't know about every store on Fifth Avenue because nobody is writing about every store on Fifth Avenue, but the one on the Valentino store remaining closed and boarded up is dated as of yesterday.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Trump hints at 'generous' second coronavirus stimulus check. Here's how much you could get | Fox Business

President Trump signaled Monday that he's open to a second stimulus check for Americans. Asked during an interview whether he plans to give another cash payment to some Americans, Trump said: "Yeah we are. We are." "We will be doing another stimulus package," he added. "It'll be very good, it'll be very generous." Trump declined to say how much money Americans could see. "You'll find out about," he said. "You'll find out."

The White House has not officially taken a stance on a second stimulus payment.

One such package, the $3 trillion HEROES Act would send another round of $1,200 checks to American adults and children and expand the number of people who are eligible to receive the government aid. One criticism of the CARES Act, which sent up to $1,200 to Americans earning less than $75,000, was that it did not include older teens and college students.

But the HEROES Act broadens the scope of the money to include those individuals. The payments would be capped at $6,000 per household.

To see how much money you would receive through the HEROES Act, you can use this online calculator provided by Omni.

It’s extremely generous. I would love to know where all this money is coming from and how it’s going to be replenished.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Storefronts slow to get back to business on first day of NYC's reopening - amNewYork

I said the entirety of Fifth Avenue in Manhattan was boarded up; and it had plenty of ink on it. Here is video for anyone who missed it the first time around:

https://nypost.com/2020/06/03/what-the-streets-of-manhattan-look-like-after-days-of-riots/

My original links discussed businesses on Fifth Avenue in Manhattan that are still boarded up and intend to stay so, apparently, while suing to get out of their leases; which included J Crew, Victoria's Secret, and the aforementioned Valentino. I don't know about every store on Fifth Avenue because nobody is writing about every store on Fifth Avenue, but the one on the Valentino store remaining closed and boarded up is dated as of yesterday.

Years ago, I was in Long Island for business and we went into Manhattan for the evening. The Manhattan you're talking about isn't Brooklyn, is it? Jmo

 

[MrX]

Indeed, several voices in the scientific medical community are suggesting that our response to COVID-19 will ultimately have a more significant adverse and long term public health impact than COVID-19 itself.

Great post - thank you!

Paper on the Psycho-social impact of Covid: Psychosocial impact of COVID-19

 

[CSIDreamer]

The scientific reality is that:

Deaths from COVID-19 have fallen off a cliff. Daily COVID-19 deaths are now getting close to falling down to a level comparable to the average number of daily off-season influenza deaths.

COVID-19 is deadly to those in hospice care, including the elderly in poor health condition and those with critical health conditions.

If you're healthy and under the age of 70, the fatality rate from COVID appears likely to be less than the fatality rate for influenza among that same population.

Those whose immunities are compromised (including from certain cancers, chemotherapy treatments, taking immuno suppressants, etc.) have a much higher likelihood of having severe issues with COVID-19 and need to protect themselves.

Those with severe cardiovascular disease have a much higher likelihood of having severe issues with COVID-19 and need to protect themselves.

Those who are diabetic and not keeping up with their recommended diet and exercise are much more likely to have severe issues with COVID-19 and need to protect themselves.

Those who are significantly overweight are much more likely to have severe issues with COVID-19 and need to protect themselves.

The few controlled studies on asymptomatic spread of COVID-19, suggest it is very rare.

There's more than sufficient ICU capacity and PPE at this point to avoid COVID-19 overwhelming our medical system, particularly given we're now in the summer season.

The multi-month lockdown has brought with it isolation, economic hardship, and high stress--each of which are significantly correlated with suicide, drug and alcohol abuse, violence, and heart disease. Indeed, several voices in the scientific medical community are suggesting that our response to COVID-19 will ultimately have a more significant adverse and long term public health impact than COVID-19 itself.

One of the biggest lessons from this should be that the best way to protect yourself from viruses such as COVID-19, influenza, etc. is to do what you can to keep yourself and your immune system healthy:

• maintain a healthy body weight
• eat healthy meals and limit sugar intake
• stay active and exercise regularly
• get 7 to 8 hours of good sleep each night
• have time in the sun and otherwise ensure you are taking in sufficient levels of Vitamin D
• do not smoke
• maintain good relationships with family and friends
• get a physical every year and keep up with recommended diagnostic tests for your gender/age group
• maintain good oral health by regularly brushing teeth, flossing, using moutwash and visiting a dentist at least once if not twice a year
• allow yourself time for one or more hobbies that you enjoy
• practice healthy stress relief habits and mindfulness
• regularly wash your hands

I posted a day or two ago the county I live in has a ferocious increase in ODs. They're asking people that know CPR to use the pulse point app and carry Narcan with them. I'm considering taking a refresher course as this just chills me to the core. Jmo

 

[JerseyGirl]

Storefronts slow to get back to business on first day of NYC's reopening - amNewYork

I said the entirety of Fifth Avenue in Manhattan was boarded up; and it had plenty of ink on it. Here is video for anyone who missed it the first time around:

https://nypost.com/2020/06/03/what-the-streets-of-manhattan-look-like-after-days-of-riots/

My original links discussed businesses on Fifth Avenue in Manhattan that are still boarded up and intend to stay so, apparently, while suing to get out of their leases; which included J Crew, Victoria's Secret, and the aforementioned Valentino. I don't know about every store on Fifth Avenue because nobody is writing about every store on Fifth Avenue, but the one on the Valentino store remaining closed and boarded up is dated as of yesterday.

The first link was from 2 weeks ago.

Like I said, New York is back up and running. If Valentino or any other store is having problems with their landlord and wants to get out of a lease, that is an isolated incident and does not mean that 5th Avenue stores are shut down or boarded up. Valentino sues to end Fifth Avenue lease amid pandemic losses