Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #62

[enelram]

What's going to happen to our country (US)? Dr. Fauci and reputable others are saying to wear a mask. CA is requiring this. Several cities and counties are requiring it. Statistics are climbing. A few states are attempting to prevent residents from high volume virus states from entering. Haphazzard at best. A tiny hole in the bucket. Lawsuits against mask wearing. Political backlash against mask wearing. We just cannot go on like this.

It's up to local leaders to promote the ways to
ameliorate the virus.
- Mandate mask wearing
- hope the population follows along
- implement social distancing
- encourage people to stay home
- start enforcing the social distancing in bars and restaurants. Fl. officials snatched the alcohol licenses of a couple college bars near UCF (Orlando).
Encourage your local leaders to get aggressive.

 

[ilovewings]

Aside from the obvious uproar subjects, do you think there's any chance this is just rolling across the US? Jmo

I believe some epidemiologists have stated that by the time this virus ends, whenever that will be, 60-70% of the population will have become infected - that means there will be a lot more deaths (obviously)- i think the virus does what it does-- here is where though we can try and prevent the virus from infecting us (each of us)-- masks, physical distancing- gatherings, crowds, are incubators for the virus and with the re-opening of the states and people acting like there is no virus and gathering in large groups, having rallies, the virus will spread like wild-fire--- younger people will, for the most part, be unscathed by the virus but they will spread it to older folks and others with weak immune systems who will get very sick and/or die. As long as the covidiots continue to act like there is no virus to worry about, we all are at high risk.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

I consider what he did an honest mistake: Governor Whitmer did the same thing: I don't think they understood the nature of the virus- it was new and they were , in a way, all caught flat-footed. As far As Governor Cuomo I believe once he became aware of what a mistake that was, he corrected it.

Governor Cuomo is coming across very well from my viewpoint across the pond. We made the same, terrible mistake with our oldies in the early days and it's fair to say we let them down badly. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

I've said before the UK's two main mistakes were returning people to care homes, and allowing flights to continue landing here for far too long. It wasn't China that escalated our Covid problem, it was European travel.

 

[tmar]

This is how some parts of the world react to Covid 19.
I am so pleased, as I live here, in one of the 'hot spots'.

Military called in to assist with Victorian COVID-19 cases

Military called in to assist with Victorian COVID-19 cases

9News Staff

1 hour ago
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© 9News Australian Defence Force personnel are helping with planning issues, and Prime Minister Scott Morrison has been talking regularly with Premier Daniel Andrews about a further deployment.

The Australian Defence Force is sending 1000 additional officers to Victoria to assist with the state's soaring coronavirus cases as it recorded the first Australian death in a month.

The death of the Victorian man, aged in his 80s, brings the national tally to 103.

The officers, who will arrive in Melbourne today, and will consist of general duties and medical staff.
"We will have approximately 850 providing logistical support, and also providing quarantine support at hotels," Defence Minister Linda Reynolds told Today.

"About 200 logistics and medical personnel will also assist with the testing regime across Victoria."

"That agreement is through until the end of July but we will keep working closely with the Victorian Government to see what more might be required."

Ms Reynolds said the ADF have been assisting with the local coronavirus crisis since February and the officers are well prepared to deal with the matter and protect themselves and the community from further infection.

Victoria recorded another 20 new cases yesterday, bringing the number of community transmissions to 241 and more than doubling its active cases in the past week to 141.

 

[Bailey38]

The resurgence of this virus is going to be very difficult, I blame just about everyone who has a position that had the way and means to contain it. President, Govenors, Mayors, and media. We're in the middle of a pandemic and all of them care for nothing but their own political gain. From rallies to protests, these should have been shut down and shut down now.

Instead, weakness and fear of offending anyone/everyone continues as we now go into the real fire. It's smoldering and is about blaze wide open.We will not only have the loss of life, will are going to see a great loss of livelihood. It's the perfect storm for the next depression and we need to start this very day writing and calling our politicians to get it together.

We have to support each other and use understanding but we also have to be stronger. We have to protect each other and although with many different views and opinions, we're all in this together whether we want to be or not. Much respect to all of you and I care for you all very much. *heart*

IMO

 

[tresir2012]

I consider what he did an honest mistake: Governor Whitmer did the same thing: I don't think they understood the nature of the virus- it was new and they were , in a way, all caught flat-footed. As far As Governor Cuomo I believe once he became aware of what a mistake that was, he corrected it.

It happened in Europe too. Governments didn't learn from other countries, as by the time we knew, we had already made the same mistakes to make room in our hospitals. This is probably the biggest tragedy of the pandemic IMO. South America appears to be the next tragedy sadly.

 

[SoCalDavidS]

I believe some epidemiologists have stated that by the time this virus ends, whenever that will be, 60-70% of the population will have become infected.

No, that is the amount necessary for herd immunity. If we flatten the curve enough until a Vaccine comes out, the infection rate would not be nearly that high. There are some countries that have low infection rates to this point, and will sustain that until a vaccine arrives. Countries like Brazil, Sweden, UK and us, appear to be going for that herd immunity. We're only at 5% thus far though.

 

[jjenny]

I wouldn't want to the the first ones to be vaccinated. I am worried that this vaccine is being rolled out before it really had time to be thoroughly tested out.

As we don't know if vaccine is going to be developed any time soon, I am not worried about whether I want to be the first one to be vaccinated. First they have to roll out a vaccine. From what I understand, covid itself might not even provide a long term immunity. So would any vaccine work? And for how long?

 

[jjenny]

No, that is the amount necessary for herd immunity. If we flatten the curve enough until a Vaccine comes out, the infection rate would not be nearly that high. There are some countries that have low infection rates to this point, and will sustain that until a vaccine arrives. Countries like Brazil, Sweden, UK and us, appear to be going for that herd immunity though. We're only at 5% thus far though.

I think herd immunity is only possible if virus actually provide long term immunity and it might not. I mean, we can get flu every year, even with a vaccine. Covid might be here to stay for a long time. Seems for us to fight it, we might have to social distance, wear masks, glasses, gloves for a long time, and so far a large number of the population gets offended at the idea of even wearing a mask and want to act as if everything was back to normal.

 

[Sundog]

I consider what he did an honest mistake: Governor Whitmer did the same thing: I don't think they understood the nature of the virus- it was new and they were , in a way, all caught flat-footed. As far As Governor Cuomo I believe once he became aware of what a mistake that was, he corrected it.

I consider what he did an honest mistake: Governor Whitmer did the same thing: I don't think they understood the nature of the virus- it was new and they were , in a way, all caught flat-footed. As far As Governor Cuomo I believe once he became aware of what a mistake that was, he corrected it.

Looks like the Detroit News is holding Whitmer accountable

Whitmer feels heat from Detroit paper over coronavirus: She 'must answer for nursing home policy'

 

[SouthAussie]

I think Australia's strategy has been:

First, close international borders
Next, close state borders
Get the virus under control in each state with testing, and isolation of positive cases
Mandatory 14-day quarantining for any Aussies returning to their home from elsewhere
Ensure that all medical facilities (especially ICUs) were equipped to handle multiple intakes
Loosen statewide restrictions
Open up travel within each state (social distancing and sanitisation strictly in place)
Open up travel to 'safe' states

My state moves to stage three on Monday. Opening up nightclubs and entertainment venues at 50% capacity, social distancing still in effect. Not all states are at the same point, but we are all moving towards the same goal. It takes community compliance.

It is all a guessing game. But it is a guessing game that is planned out by National Cabinet - which is all of the state leaders conferring and agreeing on strategy, with expert advice.

 

[Bravo]

Australia has done really well

 

[Bravo]

My City is down to 7 active cases presently and 2 deaths. No one in Hospital presently. Do I think there are more? Yes. Given the packed patio/driveway areas I see. No masks. I feel for the staff. No indoor service presently so I guess it's a free for all outdoors.

 

[Bravo]

**crickets**

 

[anneg]

Wow. So her husband went to the gas station and Home Depot (with mask and Purell!) and had not been out previously - and had red swollen eyes by that same day.

He took precautions and still got it!!

I wonder if he rubbed his eyes after touching something, like the gas pump, that had virus on it. Also, he hadn't been out shopping in a long time and wasn't used to taking precautions while out. You get better at it the more you do it.

I got pinkeye in March (first time in my life) and think I probably got it on my last shopping trip in mid March. (I wasn't wearing a mask yet and had no hand sanitizer.) Just thinking about trying not to touch my face made my eyes and nose itch. But I don't think my pinkeye was COVID related.

 

[mickey2942]

Wow. So her husband went to the gas station and Home Depot (with mask and Purell!) and had not been out previously - and had red swollen eyes by that same day.

He took precautions and still got it!!

That is what he told his wife. I will just leave that statement there.

It was an interesting article. It seems like the more they know about this "Novel Coronavirus", the more they don't know. Also interesting, that the author could not get oxygen at home, as that is only for "chronic conditions". I wonder if that will change.

 

[katydid23]

I consider what he did an honest mistake: Governor Whitmer did the same thing: I don't think they understood the nature of the virus- it was new and they were , in a way, all caught flat-footed. As far As Governor Cuomo I believe once he became aware of what a mistake that was, he corrected it.

I disagree about his quick correction. He made the order on March 25th. He reversed the order on May 10th. So it was 6 weeks before the correction. And he continued to defend it , saying 'he didn’t believe it contributed to the more than 5,800 nursing and adult care facility deaths in New York' — more than in any other state.'

AP count: Over 4,500 virus patients sent to NY nursing homes

To some, the governor’s reversal came too late.

“It infected a great number of people in nursing homes who had no business getting infected, including short-term residents who were there for rehabilitation after surgeries,” said John Dalli, a New York attorney who specializes in nursing home cases.

Cuomo, a Democrat, on May 10 reversed the directive, which had been intended to help free up hospital beds for the sickest patients as cases surged. But he continued to defend it this week, saying he didn’t believe it contributed to the more than 5,800 nursing and adult care facility deaths in New York — more than in any other state — and that homes should have spoken up if it was a problem.

“Any nursing home could just say, ‘I can’t handle a COVID person in my facility,’” he said, although the March 25 order didn’t specify how homes could refuse, saying that ”no resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the (nursing home) solely based” on confirmed or suspected COVID-19.

Over a month later, on April 29, the Health Department clarified that homes should not take any new residents if they were unable to meet their needs, including a checklist of standards for coronavirus care and prevention.

 

[Bravo]

Have a good night all. Be safe. Be kind.

 

[mickey2942]

US immigration agency prepares to furlough more than half of its workforce - CNNPolitics

13,000 government employees will be given furlough notices. This is just the beginning.

 

[MrX]

Australia has done really well

Calling in the army after the first death in a month (in his 80's)? Strikes me as totally unsustainable. The more I look at the "success stories," the less "successful" they look.