Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #63

[Sundog]

I've cut my hair myself twice now and I've done a pretty good job.

The hair cutting kit I bought has now paid for itself. Future self cuts will be money saved.

I ordered some conair haircutting scissors from amazon a few weeks ago in order to cut my husband's hair. I've watched a you tube video and we plan to do it this week. I am going to try to cut my own hair, I think I will be okay with both sides, but will need my husband to cut the back. I've been tying my hair back, but I would really like to get it back to my normal length. As to color, I ordered once from e-salon and eventually colored it myself about three weeks ago. The color wasn't a good match for me, but a colleague of mine recommended e-salon and she has used it for years. I am going to see if my stylist will just sell me the color that she uses for me, with a bottle of developer, so that I can get back to the same color for my roots as they grow out. I won't go to her salon now, as she has a 20-something daughter and she and her daughter could be asymptomatic, and who would know. And I wouldn't want to go to a salon where they were using a blow dryer.

In China, in the summer, sometimes hair stylists will set up business in the large parks. I wonder if that would be safer, here in the U.S., to get a haircut outdoors this summer. I still wouldn't do it, just don't want to take the risk when it isn't absolutely necessary.

 

[gitana1]

Sacramento county has a population of over 1.5 million people. So far we have had 2666 confirmed cases and 66 deaths.

COVID-19 map of California: Latest coronavirus cases by county

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/sacramentocountycalifornia,CA/PST045219

You can thank the shut down for those relatively low numbers.

 

[10ofRods]

Here's an outdoor event to keep an eye on, in Paris.

A lot of "youths" met on the large grass near Les Invalides (not too far from the Eiffel Tower) and started partying. Then, organizers began to chant "Heurt! Heurt!" in emulation of a movie where youth parties turn into riots in the streets - which is of course, exactly what happened. Tear gas was used. I believe this was last night.

 

[gitana1]

I ordered some conair haircutting scissors from amazon a few weeks ago in order to cut my husband's hair. I've watched a you tube video and we plan to do it this week. I am going to try to cut my own hair, I think I will be okay with both sides, but will need my husband to cut the back. I've been tying my hair back, but I would really like to get it back to my normal length. As to color, I ordered once from e-salon and eventually colored it myself about three weeks ago. The color wasn't a good match for me, but a colleague of mine recommended e-salon and she has used it for years. I am going to see if my stylist will just sell me the color that she uses for me, with a bottle of developer, so that I can get back to the same color for my roots as they grow out. I won't go to her salon now, as she has a 20-something daughter and she and her daughter could be asymptomatic, and who would know. And I wouldn't want to go to a salon where they were using a blow dryer.

In China, in the summer, sometimes hair stylists will set up business in the large parks. I wonder if that would be safer, here in the U.S., to get a haircut outdoors this summer. I still wouldn't do it, just don't want to take the risk when it isn't absolutely necessary.

My 83 year old mom just got her hair cut and colored by her niece at the salon. Except they have an outside area and that’s where it was done. And my cousin wore a mask and shield. I think that’s pretty safe!

 

[10ofRods]

Or maybe they just weren't super spreaders. Apparently some people are super spreaders and some are not. So you can have someone that infects hundreds and someone who maybe infects one or two (or even nobody).

Also possible. It's hard to know if they were at their peak of shedding the virus.

There are many factors involved in being a super-spreader and one of the factors is being asymptomatic as well but thoroughly infected. Another is working conditions - the term was first used, AFAIK, regarding the nursing home workers in Washington state, each of whom worked at 3 different homes and were in close contact with dozens of elderly people at each one. Maskless.

 

[CharlestonGal]

And it's a country with strong adherence to mask wearing (unlike US).

Not only that, they took the first SARS outbreak extremely seriously. They've had their eyes peeled, plans ready to go, ever since then. They jumped on SARS 2 full force all the way back in January. At the first rumblings of a virus problem in China they took immediate and serious action.

It's too late now, of course, because the genie is out of the bottle in most of the rest of the world, but the world would be wise to look to Vietnam's plan when preparing for the next epidemic - and there will be a next one. It's just a matter of time.

 

[gitana1]

What is happening to us is totally predictable. States started to open up in the middle of the shutdown, without getting virus under control. Then a lot of people in our population decided that because states are opening up, that means the virus is done for. Of course the cases were going to go up.

It’s dismaying. Shut downs are a way to pause, set up systems to handle the influx and be able to trace and target any outbreaks to prevent those from getting out of control.

Once the curve is flattened, outbreaks can be curbed by serious testing and tracing and strict isolation of those infected. But instead of doing what was necessary to have a system in place, too many governments pandered to those who wanted to downplay this and so they minimized the disease, refused to mandate masks, refused to test or trace, refused to even tell the public when outbreaks happened (I’m looking at you, AZ, and your policies of not informing the public OR the workers of outbreaks at meat packing plants until the numbers reached unreasonably high levels).

This would’ve been controllable.

 

[Sundog]

I've cut my hair myself twice now and I've done a pretty good job.

The hair cutting kit I bought has now paid for itself. Future self cuts will be money saved.

I ordered some conair haircutting scissors from amazon a few weeks ago in order to cut my husband's hair. I've watched a you tube video and we plan to do it this week. I am going to try to cut my own hair, I think I will be okay with both sides, but will need my husband to cut the back. I've been tying my hair back, but I would really like to get it back to my normal length. As to color, I ordered once from e-salon and eventually colored it myself about three weeks ago. The color wasn't a good match for me, but a colleague of mine recommended e-salon and she has used it for years. I am going to see if my stylist will just sell me the color that she uses for me, with a bottle of developer, so that I can get back to the same color for my roots as they grow out. I won't go to her salon now, as she has a 20-something daughter and she and her daughter could be asymptomatic, and who would know. And I wouldn't want to go to a salon where they were using a blow dryer.

In China, in the summer, sometimes hair stylists will set up business in the large parks. I wonder if that would be safer, here in the U.S., to get a haircut outdoors this summer. I still wouldn't do it, just don't want to take the risk when it isn't absolutely necessary.

My 83 year old mom just got her hair cut and colored by her niece at the salon. Except they have an outside area and that’s where it was done. And my cousin wore a mask and shield. I think that’s pretty safe!

I think if it was a relative I might be open to that option, glad it worked out for your mom!

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

Coronavirus: Leicester could be first city to go into local lockdown amid 'spike' in COVID-19 cases

The home secretary has confirmed that Leicester could be the first city to go into a local lockdown, over reports of a spike in COVID-19 cases.

Priti Patel, when asked on BBC One's The Andrew Marr Show whether the city was going to see new restrictions imposed, said: "Well, that is correct.

"We have seen flare-ups across the country in recent weeks, in just the last three or four weeks in particular."

The Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) said on Sunday that Leicester was an area of concern and urged residents to be vigilant against the virus.

It stopped short of saying a local lockdown was likely, but The Sunday Times reported that Health Secretary Matt Hancock had been examining legal aspects of the shutdown following a rise in cases.

There have been reports that the Leicester area had 658 new cases in the two weeks to 16 June.

 

[gitana1]

Or maybe they just weren't super spreaders. Apparently some people are super spreaders and some are not. So you can have someone that infects hundreds and someone who maybe infects one or two (or even nobody).

Yes. But the evidence is super clear that masks do work. I cited it all the studies here awhile ago.

Surgical masks aren’t as effective when you’re a foot from a virulently sick patient who is coughing in your face, but otherwise they are pretty effective and sometimes even comparable to N95’s when fitted properly.

But all masks- even cloth ones- worn by the wearer can help those around the wearer from getting sick.

Yes, if someone wearing a mask coughs directly onto another person’s face, from a couple inches away, the other person isn’t going to be protected. But normal talking and breathing? Even cloth masks tend to help those around the wearer. They even provide some protection to the wearer from larger droplets.

 

[ilovewings]

I sure didn’t. I was stupid. Early on here when others were sounding the alarm I was citing our response to Ebola and how well that was handled. I felt confident.

me too-- i expected the same response---we sure were wrong about that!

 

[CharlestonGal]

What a day so far----- First, my hair stylist who i adore, is traveling on an airplane----he is around 60 something-- in good health and is going to visit his sister who lives somewhere near Myrtle Beach. He says he will wear a mask and gloves- blah blah blah- and just wanted to know that if i wanted to wait a couple weeks to see him after he comes back- well, i am not sure i want to see him at all-- right now at this time traveling on an air plane seems like a pretty big risk-- most of his clients are shall we say elderly and at high risk-- so i am considering what to do--- i hate to have to find another stylist- my hair is fine and thin and takes a lot of work to look half way decent so when i find a stylist i don't like to leave that person. He is the kind of person who will probably travel again on a plane---

So I was commiserating with my friend (also a client of my stylist)- she tells me she went to a funeral- sat at the back and left quickly after the service. All of the people (25 people), who were there (all elderly) decided to go have lunch at an Italian restaurant- Then she describes her neighbors, all elderly who constantly ask
her to go to lunch and dinners-- Again, I am like WHAT??? have people lost
their minds overnight? I am gobsmacked that these people at high risk
are freaking clueless!!!!!
like WHAT????

Depending on what state you are in, your stylist may have to quarantine for 2 weeks following travel to SC. That right there should tell you whether or not to see him. In other words....no.

 

[ilovewings]

Ebola is not airborne. Also, people become infectious only after they started showing symptoms. So it was much easier to control.

We also had good leadership and a plan

 

[CharlestonGal]

Well, that's what she told her parents. Did they go inside somewhere either before or after bonfire? Everything I heard indicates the virus is not easy to spread outside. But if she indeed got it at a bonfire, that indicates that it does spread outside.

It must not be too difficult to spread outside. Our (mostly) young people are getting it at the beach. To the extent that our DHEC is recommending covid tests for anyone who has visited the beach recently.

 

[gitana1]

Ebola is not airborne. Also, people become infectious only after they started showing symptoms. So it was much easier to control.

Yes. That’s true. But I wasn’t as educated as I am now.

BTW, I have learned this is apparently not classically airborne either. Not like the measles.

It can become so through things like breathing treatments or other events that aerosolize the droplets, (which is what happened in nursing homes in WA) but it’s apparently naturally spread through respiratory droplets - not aerosol- which is what airborne technically means.

So while we can and do get it through the spread of droplets in the air, unlike measles, they are heavy droplets that don’t hang around the air so long.

In tests in hospitals, traces of the virus was found in the air sometimes hours later, but the virus was sprayed into the room via sprayers, which aerosolized it and the viral load numbers still began dropping immediately after being sprayed, and dropped quickly. So every moment that went by meant less chance of infection for anyone in the room.

 

[gitana1]

Also possible. It's hard to know if they were at their peak of shedding the virus.

There are many factors involved in being a super-spreader and one of the factors is being asymptomatic as well but thoroughly infected. Another is working conditions - the term was first used, AFAIK, regarding the nursing home workers in Washington state, each of whom worked at 3 different homes and were in close contact with dozens of elderly people at each one. Maskless.

Yup. I have a friend who is a nurse in WA. Almost no one wore masks regularly (except in surgeries) until this.

 

[jjenny]

It must not be too difficult to spread outside. Our (mostly) young people are getting it at the beach. To the extent that our DHEC is recommending covid tests for anyone who has visited the beach recently.

Well, if they are packed on a beach like sardines, then it probably could spread even outdoors.

 

[CharlestonGal]

What did we expect? I guess exactly what happened. I agree, why are bars even opened during the pandemic? They seem to be a major source of the spread.

The same could be said of churches. Major clusters coming out of there, too.

 

[ilovewings]

Depending on what state you are in, your stylist may have to quarantine for 2 weeks following travel to SC. That right there should tell you whether or not to see him. In other words....no.

i dont think i will return to him for at least a month after he returns from SC--
i think he is being irresponsible and foolish--he knows most of his clients are
elderly and he chooses to travel--it just isnt the plane-- he is going to stay
with his sister-- who knows where she has been? maybe she will throw a party
while he is there--- it is all unkown but it is a risk exposure i dont want-- it is too
bad because the salonis doing all the right things

 

[CharlestonGal]

Maybe one day covid will be over. One can hope, until that day, I am growing my hair out.

I've come to embrace the high pony-tail in all its iterations. Letting go of high maintenance hair has been strangely liberating. I doubt I'll ever go back. Besides, that's $300 a month I can spend/save for other things. Of course, now it's mostly wine. Lol!