Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #64

[JerseyGirl]

Global cases pass 10.5 million

There are now 10,501,482 confirmed cases of the coronavirus worldwide, according to the Johns Hopkins university tracker.

The virus has killed at least 511,909 people across 188 countries and regions.

The tally likely only reflects a fraction of the actual number of infections, with many countries testing only symptomatic or the most serious cases.

The United States continues to be the worst-hit country with
127,425 deaths from 2,636,538 cases.

After the US, the hardest-hit countries:
Brazil with 59,594 deaths from 1,402,041 cases
United Kingdom with 43,815 deaths from 314,162 cases
Italy with 34,767 deaths from 240,578 cases
France with 29,846 deaths from 202,063 cases
China - excluding Hong Kong and Macau - has to date declared 84,813 cases, including 4,641 deaths.

 

[musicaljoke]

My husband just dropped a bombshell on me: he tells me he was talking to our neighbors across the street (they are perhaps 40): the wife told him they both tested positive for the virus. I am like, well how close did you get to the wife- well, not too close he says; well, what the hell is not too freaking close? he doesn't bother asking when they tested positive- was it a month ago, two days ago? i swear he is going to get us both sick. How long did he talk to her? i don't know. He was on his way out the door so i have to talk to him when he comes back about exactly how damn close he got to her outside of her house??? Both of them could still be contagious if the infection was recent.

Perhaps for your own peace of mind, you might get tested in a couple of days. I hope that all is well and there is no need for concern, but if there is concern, then the sooner you are diagnosed the better. Hopefully he was just talking from the sidewalk.

 

[musicaljoke]

Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick said he’s going to stop listening to Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and key member of the White House’s coronavirus task force.

“It's that kind of messaging, it's the messaging also coming out of Washington that's really making for one of our most significant challenges and problems,” Adler said.

“The messaging coming from our lieutenant governor and from Washington is that there isn't a problem, that we shouldn't be wearing masks. It creates a confused message for my community,” Adler said, adding that “this messaging war that we're on right now is not helpful.”

Gov Dan Patrick seems too confused to be leading this crisis.

 

[ilovewings]

Perhaps for your own peace of mind, you might get tested in a couple of days. I hope that all is well and there is no need for concern, but if there is concern, then the sooner you are diagnosed the better. Hopefully he was just talking from the sidewalk.

i am going to consider that-- need to talk to hubby and get more info.---

 

[SugarQueen]

Nope. I don't even think there were any major protests in Florida.

Snipped by me. These look pretty major to me.
Hundreds Gather Across South Florida for Fifteenth Consecutive Day of Protests
Several Protests Held Across South Florida Calling For End To Injustice
https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/more-protests-set-for-this-weekend-in-south-florida/2248374/

 

[ilovewings]

I can't help but think the lack of state wide mandatory mask rules (STILL) have led to this - it's not helpful at all leaving it up to the cities/counties to decide on their own. Memorial Day weekend people were gathering everywhere - no social distancing, no masks - and bars were opened and serving all last month. I wish I could work from home and not go out at all now.
JMO

I will sound like a broken record but the entire problem we are facing is lack of leadership from the very top. Lack of coorindination from the federal government. A
crisis like this demands that kind of leadership; without it, there is chaos, as we are seeing.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Can someone help me out with this please? My parents are having an oven delivered and installed Friday. Theirs has gone kaput.

I've suggested they wear masks, ask the delivery guys to wear masks, open windows and doors, stand well back.

How long will particles potentially stay in the air? And is giving the oven a good blast a good idea - I thought if it has a fan, it might be a bad idea? My mum will sanitise everything in sight, I know that.

Current number of cases in their town (pop 60,000) stands at approx 460.

I really wish they weren't having this installed, but appreciate some things have to continue for their sanity.

TIA

 

[JerseyGirl]

Wow look at Florida, like a big red thumb. Was that the protests and disturbances around Tampa and Miami caused that?

Snipped by me. These look pretty major to me.
Hundreds Gather Across South Florida for Fifteenth Consecutive Day of Protests
Several Protests Held Across South Florida Calling For End To Injustice

There is no uptick, so far, from the protests, the problem is the general population:

Nationwide Protests Haven't Caused a COVID-19 Spike (So Far)

Several cities that saw major protests, including New York, Chicago, and Philadelphia, have not experienced a new surge in cases in the days and weeks following.

And in cities and states that specifically set out to test protestors, like Massachusetts, Seattle, and Minnesota, the results have shown that demonstrators were not considerably more likely to test positive compared to the general population.

 

[ilovewings]

Perhaps for your own peace of mind, you might get tested in a couple of days. I hope that all is well and there is no need for concern, but if there is concern, then the sooner you are diagnosed the better. Hopefully he was just talking from the sidewalk.

my husband told me he was about 2 feet from her(sigh)- the good part is that from their conversation he got the impression that she and her husband were infected towards the beginning of this pandemic, around February or March. I told him he has to treat every person we meet like they have the virus and SOCIALLY DISTANCE 6 DAMN FEET FROM EVERYBODY-- I am thinking these neighbors had the virus a while ago since they are outside and just had a yard sale.

 

[JerseyGirl]

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio said that city will open its beaches. He added that 15 public pools in the city will open in the next few weeks

He said that people at the pools will be required to wear face coverings when not in the water. He said that the pool experience is going to be different but "it'll all be worth it."

Coronavirus pandemic: The latest updates from around the world

The mayor also said the city will not move ahead with plans to reopen indoor dining next week.

:clap:

 

[ilovewings]

Can someone help me out with this please? My parents are having an oven delivered and installed Friday. Theirs has gone kaput.

I've suggested they wear masks, ask the delivery guys to wear masks, open windows and doors, stand well back.

How long will particles potentially stay in the air? And is giving the oven a good blast a good idea - I thought if it has a fan, it might be a bad idea? My mum will sanitise everything in sight, I know that.

Current number of cases in their town (pop 60,000) stands at approx 460.

I really wish they weren't having this installed, but appreciate some things have to continue for their sanity.

TIA

I look at it this way: there is so much you can do- looks like you are thinking of everything possible. The delivery guys should definitely wear a mask and so should your mother. When our air conditioner went out in Florida we had to have someone come in and fix it: it freaked me out--- the guy did not have a mask and i gave him one before he stepped in the condo. He was there for a couple hours and the air conditioner was blasting when he was fixing it. (that freaked me out)--- I sanitized every surface i think he touched and that was it. Everything turned out fine. Good luck- everything will be fine

 

[tresir2012]

Can someone help me out with this please? My parents are having an oven delivered and installed Friday. Theirs has gone kaput.

I've suggested they wear masks, ask the delivery guys to wear masks, open windows and doors, stand well back.

How long will particles potentially stay in the air? And is giving the oven a good blast a good idea - I thought if it has a fan, it might be a bad idea? My mum will sanitise everything in sight, I know that.

Current number of cases in their town (pop 60,000) stands at approx 460.

I really wish they weren't having this installed, but appreciate some things have to continue for their sanity.

TIA

While the guys are there delivering and installing it, they should stay out in the garden or in a different room. The guys will understand. Just tell him to leave the delivery note on the kitchen counter. Pay for it up front electronically over the phone or on account after the fact. I have building supplies delivered as I am doing a big renovation project and that is what I do. Tell them not to help or offer a cuppa. I know its harsh. I have a builder working on outside projects occasionally and I do have a cup for him and it always goes in the dishwasher straight after. Always wash on the highest setting anyway (intense).

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Apparently there were some major ones in Dade and Brevard Counties IMO.

BREAKTHROUGH TREATMENT

Has anyone heard about this steroid breakthrough that is cutting treatment time by a third? Someone just told me about it on the phone so I googled and it has been in the news for more than two weeks. See link below.

Life-saving coronavirus drug 'major breakthrough'

"A cheap and widely available drug can help save the lives of patients seriously ill with coronavirus.

The low-dose steroid treatment dexamethasone is a major breakthrough in the fight against the deadly virus, UK experts say.

The drug is part of the world's biggest trial testing existing treatments to see if they also work for coronavirus.

It cut the risk of death by a third for patients on ventilators. For those on oxygen, it cut deaths by a fifth.

Had the drug had been used to treat patients in the UK from the start of the pandemic, up to 5,000 lives could have been saved, researchers say.

Media captionKatherine Millbank spent 15 days in hospital and was put on the drug trial
And it could be of huge benefit in poorer countries with high numbers of Covid-19 patients.

The UK government has 200,000 courses of the drug in its stockpile and says the NHS will make dexamethasone available to patients.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson said there was a genuine case to celebrate "a remarkable British scientific achievement", adding: "We have taken steps to ensure we have enough supplies, even in the event of a second peak."

Chief Medical Officer for England Prof Chris Whitty said it would save lives around the world.

• What is dexamethasone and how does it work?
• Latest coronavirus updates
• The drug combination that may help us beat Covid-19

About 19 out of 20 patients with coronavirus recover without being admitted to hospital.

Of those who are admitted, most also recover but some may need oxygen or mechanical ventilation.

And these are the high-risk patients dexamethasone appears to help."

MORE AT LINK.

I cannot believe I have not heard of it.

ETA I just searched the last three threads and we did briefly mention it when it was announced on the 16th June and it was sort of joked about then but it seems like a real winner.

I just checked the whole forum, and it was mentioned in early April... by YOU you must have just forgotten

 

[HongKongPhooey]

I look at it this way: there is so much you can do- looks like you are thinking of everything possible. The delivery guys should definitely wear a mask and so should your mother. When our air conditioner went out in Florida we had to have someone come in and fix it: it freaked me out--- the guy did not have a mask and i gave him one before he stepped in the condo. He was there for a couple hours and the air conditioner was blasting when he was fixing it. (that freaked me out)--- I sanitized every surface i think he touched and that was it. Everything turned out fine. Good luck- everything will be fine

While the guys are there delivering and installing it, they should stay out in the garden or in a different room. The guys will understand. Just tell him to leave the delivery note on the kitchen counter. Pay for it up front electronically over the phone or on account after the fact. I have building supplies delivered as I am doing a big renovation project and that is what I do. Tell them not to help or offer a cuppa. I know its harsh. I have a builder working on outside projects occasionally and I do have a cup for him and it always goes in the dishwasher straight after. Always wash on the highest setting anyway (intense).

Thanks both

 

[Tippy Lynn]

There is no uptick, so far, from the protests, the problem is the general population:

Nationwide Protests Haven't Caused a COVID-19 Spike (So Far)

Several cities that saw major protests, including New York, Chicago, and Philadelphia, have not experienced a new surge in cases in the days and weeks following.

And in cities and states that specifically set out to test protestors, like Massachusetts, Seattle, and Minnesota, the results have shown that demonstrators were not considerably more likely to test positive compared to the general population.

Weird, I would have never guessed that. If true, it looks like there won’t be an uptick in cases for outdoor rallies and 4th of July celebrations.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Can someone help me out with this please? My parents are having an oven delivered and installed Friday. Theirs has gone kaput.

I've suggested they wear masks, ask the delivery guys to wear masks, open windows and doors, stand well back.

How long will particles potentially stay in the air? And is giving the oven a good blast a good idea - I thought if it has a fan, it might be a bad idea? My mum will sanitise everything in sight, I know that.

Current number of cases in their town (pop 60,000) stands at approx 460.

I really wish they weren't having this installed, but appreciate some things have to continue for their sanity.

TIA

How to Handle a Home Service Call During the Coronavirus Pandemic

You could, for instance, ask the representative on the phone what the company mandates that its service workers do when entering the home to maintain a 6-foot distance. You also could ask to have the service person call or text you before arriving to go over precautions. You might feel the need to ask in advance whether a company’s service personnel will wear a face covering.

Chart a path. Plan how you’ll direct the person through your home, and where to suggest she put her tools. You’ll want to make sure that she doesn’t go into rooms or touch items in your house unnecessarily and that her own items touch a minimum of surfaces.

Prepare the work area. - recommends precleaning the area where the worker will be based, with a cleaner known to kill the virus. That protects the service pro in the event the virus is in your home, even if you’re not aware of it. You can also lay floor protection: disposable paper or plastic, or a washable sheet on which the worker can walk and place her tools. You can clean under there afterward. “There’s no scientific evidence that the virus is spread by walking on a floor or fabric, but that kind of barrier could limit exposure.”

Have hand soap and cleaners ready. You can offer them to the service worker before and after the job is done.

Stand 6 feet back. The 6-foot rule and hand cleaning form the basis of all good COVID-19 hygiene, the CDC says.

Protect your hands. If you have to hand something to the worker, use nonpermeable, disposable nitrile gloves or a paper towel to cover the item when you pass it. Then wash your hands vigorously, for good measure. If you must sign something, use your own pen or stylus (for touch screens).

After the visit - Clean where the contractor was working. Ideally, clean 6 feet around the repair person’s path.

 

[SugarQueen]

Weird, I would have never guessed that. If true, it looks like there won’t be an uptick in cases for outdoor rallies and 4th of July celebrations.

I do think it’s strange they can say protests haven’t caused a rise in cases but hey that’s great news for July 4th.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

How to Handle a Home Service Call During the Coronavirus Pandemic

You could, for instance, ask the representative on the phone what the company mandates that its service workers do when entering the home to maintain a 6-foot distance. You also could ask to have the service person call or text you before arriving to go over precautions. You might feel the need to ask in advance whether a company’s service personnel will wear a face covering.

Chart a path. Plan how you’ll direct the person through your home, and where to suggest she put her tools. You’ll want to make sure that she doesn’t go into rooms or touch items in your house unnecessarily and that her own items touch a minimum of surfaces.

Prepare the work area. - recommends precleaning the area where the worker will be based, with a cleaner known to kill the virus. That protects the service pro in the event the virus is in your home, even if you’re not aware of it. You can also lay floor protection: disposable paper or plastic, or a washable sheet on which the worker can walk and place her tools. You can clean under there afterward. “There’s no scientific evidence that the virus is spread by walking on a floor or fabric, but that kind of barrier could limit exposure.”

Have hand soap and cleaners ready. You can offer them to the service worker before and after the job is done.

Stand 6 feet back. The 6-foot rule and hand cleaning form the basis of all good COVID-19 hygiene, the CDC says.

Protect your hands. If you have to hand something to the worker, use nonpermeable, disposable nitrile gloves or a paper towel to cover the item when you pass it. Then wash your hands vigorously, for good measure. If you must sign something, use your own pen or stylus (for touch screens).

After the visit - Clean where the contractor was working. Ideally, clean 6 feet around the repair person’s path.

Thanks JG

 

[SoCalDavidS]

Gov Dan Patrick seems too confused to be leading this crisis.

And he has plenty of company.

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

I do think it’s strange they can say protests haven’t caused a rise in cases but hey that’s great news for July 4th.

There’s a don’t ask, don’t tell policy when it comes to contact tracing and protests. That makes it’s easy to say there is no uptick in covid caused by protests, but that defies all logic. IMO