Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #65

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  • #641
Yes, I get the sense this whole Mt. Rushmore thing is about all the kids who protested for BLM. IMO, when kids get out of hand, it's even more important that adults act like adults.

While I realize some people brought their kids, I feel like most of them were adults. Jmo
 
  • #642
Texas. Masks are definitely needed.
JMO
Their numbers are starting to come in. I'm a little afraid to watch.

I think TX and FL are way beyond masks at this point. They need to get a serious handle on their social distancing as well. I think they are headed for another lockdown, unfortunately.
 
  • #643
My long story about singing with the church choir during COVID (TL/DR)

Last Sunday about 8:45 a.m., about 16 of our church choir members--including my husband and me-- gathered in a parking deck near the church. The purpose was to record the group singing two songs, and the recording could be inserted into one or more of the online worship services. Also present were the choir director, a person recording the event with a phone, and an associate pastor.

It was a very warm and humid day, even that early, but we had a roof overhead so were not in the sun. We were spread out at least 6 feet apart and we all were wearing masks. There was air moving through the space.

Unfortunately, the heat, humidity, standing, and trying to sing through a mask were too much for my DH. After a while, he had to sit down and pull his mask down so he could breathe. But instead of getting better, he got worse, vomited, and passed out. Various choir members rushed to help him... bless them, they forgot about distancing, and so did I. By then our pastor had already called for an ambulance. (My memory of this time is a blur but I have recollections from others to fill in blanks.)

I followed the ambulance in our car and was able to park at the entrance to the ER after going through a screening tent in the parking lot. I was allowed to join him in the ER, thank God! The medical center had changed their visiting rules only a week before. The ER wasn't busy at all, and we were told COVID or potential COVID patients were in a separate part of the ER.

The ER doctor eventually told us that DH apparently had vasovagal syncope, triggered by heat, humidity, standing, and trying to sing with a mask on.* (see more info below)

He had a heart rhythm problem, which was thought to be due to an antiemetic drug given to him in the ambulance. But he has a history of heart disease and a prosthetic valve, and he needed to be monitored. So, in mid afternoon DH was admitted to an observation floor in the hospital and put in a nice large room by himself with curtained sliding doors. He seemed to be doing pretty well so I eventually went home to eat something and get some sleep. I was exhausted and very worried.

On Monday I was not allowed to visit him until 1 p.m., but we were able to talk on the phone. Fortunately, the arrhythmia had cleared up, and his echocardiogram looked good. Around 4 p.m. a doctor came by to go through his records and talk with us, and told us my husband could go home! Yippee!

But first they applied a heart monitor patch to his chest that he is supposed to wear for two weeks. If he has any heart related symptoms like shortness of breath, dizziness, chest pain, etc., he is supposed to push a button on the device and write down what is going on. So far he's had no symptoms, so that's good.

Because he was admitted, he was given a COVID test and we got the result 24 hours later: Negative.

He had given blood at Red Cross about 2 weeks ago, and they tested his blood for COVID antibodies: Negative.

That's a rather abbreviated version of what all went on, but I wanted to share it. I had so hoped we could avoid having to go to the ER or to the hospital during this pandemic, but it seems to have turned out OK. The hospital staff know what they are doing and I felt he was in good hands throughout. I was so happy to bring him home!! :) He saw his doctor yesterday, and he's doing well. :):) :)
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*From MayoClinic.com: "The vasovagal syncope trigger causes your heart rate and blood pressure to drop suddenly. That leads to reduced blood flow to your brain, causing you to briefly lose consciousness." ... "Vasovagal syncope occurs when the part of your nervous system that regulates heart rate and blood pressure malfunctions in response to a trigger, such as the sight of blood.

Your heart rate slows, and the blood vessels in your legs widen (dilate.) This allows blood to pool in your legs, which lowers your blood pressure. Combined, the drop in blood pressure and slowed heart rate quickly reduce blood flow to your brain, and you faint."


i am glad that your husba
COVID related, not political:

This man needs to be arrested for endangering public safety in the middle of a pandemic. Enough is enough. Endangering the lives and economies of people you have been sworn to protect and have a responsibility to lead. Doing that in Tulsa, doing that in PHOENIX. This is disgusting and this man needs to be Stopped and jailed, imo.

STOP SPREADING THE DISEASE!

You got that right girlfriend!!!!
 
  • #644
Yes you're right, it's just an app update like any other, and allows you to tap into if you want to enable contact tracing capabilities.

Nothing to worry about. Just switch it off if it's not needed.
From what I've heard from other friends, it was defaulted to "off" and you had to turn it on. Not sure if that is accurate, though. But, like you said, just check it and turn it off if you don't want it. Easy peasy. I'm always lazy about my updates...I'll get around to installing it eventually. :)
 
  • #645
What are people thinking??????
That it won't happen to them. Was it on here I read that during WWII a common thought on the battlefield to look at your fellow soldier beside you and think "aw, poor guy" ....MOO
 
  • #646
My long story about singing
Respectfully snipped for space.

Oh my how scary! I'm so glad he's ok. Also glad you were able to join him in the ER. I don't know what the rules are now around here.....I'm not sure anyone is allowed in still.
 
  • #647
No I haven’t missed a damn thing!!!!
Nope, you sure haven't. Out of all of us, margarita is probably one of the most informed out there. Her, Otto, Henry...sorry if I've left out someone and I know I have because I'm having a brain fart lol, but they've been my go-to folks since January.
 
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  • #650
It wasn't too hard in South Dakota, given that there are only 884,000 people living there. And 77,000 square miles.

I can't give high praise to someone for doing such an easy job. South Dakota has still managed to have twice as many deaths as my county (which has the same population), although being in California, we're slated to catch up to South Dakota within two weeks. But we've had cases for a month longer than South Dakota and have half the deaths. We're also a much more urban population, being in SoCal and all.

New Jersey had 0 deaths yesterday, South Dakota had 4. This is one of those situations where no one should be bragging about their great response until they've actually dealt with this disease. My county, with the same population as the entire state of South Dakota, had 1 death yesterday.

Given how remote Mt Rushmore is from any town of larger size, hopefully things will remain calm in South Dakota - and Wyoming. There are very few South Dakota towns of any size near Rushmore. Rapid City does have about 75,000 people. I don't know if the 244 westbound from Rushmore was closed just for this weekend, but that will surely help the smaller towns avoid an incursion of CV.

Presumably, the President and entourage will fly into a military base and not interact much with the general population. Whether people come from the East for this event remains to be seen (live stream starts in about 1.5 hours, IIRC).

Just for reference, SD was projected to have just 1 death per day throughout last week and into next week. We shall see whether the travel from out of state is the reason behind the 4X higher number (I know it sounds small, but that's how it starts) and whether SD stays on track to have a mere 225 CoVid deaths by end of September.

Let it also be noted that SD (according to Google analytics and other digital measures of overall travel by people with phones) is entirely open and with the same mobility as before CoVid. So in that context, 225 deaths by October 1 (there are 97 for the state right now) is still a sobering prospect.

The mayor of the largest city near the monument, Rapid City, said he would be watching for an increase in cases after the event.

“We’re going to have thousands of people, shoulder to shoulder at these events — someone in line to see a president and being able to see fireworks at Mount Rushmore — they are probably not likely to disqualify themself because they developed a cough the day of or the day before,” Mayor Steve Allender said.

Leaders of several Native American tribes in the region also raised concerns that the event could lead to virus outbreaks among their members, who they say are particularly vulnerable to COVID-19 because of an underfunded health care system and chronic health conditions.

President Trump's Mount Rushmore trip expected to draw thousands
 
  • #651
My long story about singing with the church choir during COVID (TL/DR)

Last Sunday about 8:45 a.m., about 16 of our church choir members--including my husband and me-- gathered in a parking deck near the church. The purpose was to record the group singing two songs, and the recording could be inserted into one or more of the online worship services. Also present were the choir director, a person recording the event with a phone, and an associate pastor.

It was a very warm and humid day, even that early, but we had a roof overhead so were not in the sun. We were spread out at least 6 feet apart and we all were wearing masks. There was air moving through the space.

Unfortunately, the heat, humidity, standing, and trying to sing through a mask were too much for my DH. After a while, he had to sit down and pull his mask down so he could breathe. But instead of getting better, he got worse, vomited, and passed out. Various choir members rushed to help him... bless them, they forgot about distancing, and so did I. By then our pastor had already called for an ambulance. (My memory of this time is a blur but I have recollections from others to fill in blanks.)

I followed the ambulance in our car and was able to park at the entrance to the ER after going through a screening tent in the parking lot. I was allowed to join him in the ER, thank God! The medical center had changed their visiting rules only a week before. The ER wasn't busy at all, and we were told COVID or potential COVID patients were in a separate part of the ER.

The ER doctor eventually told us that DH apparently had vasovagal syncope, triggered by heat, humidity, standing, and trying to sing with a mask on.* (see more info below)

He had a heart rhythm problem, which was thought to be due to an antiemetic drug given to him in the ambulance. But he has a history of heart disease and a prosthetic valve, and he needed to be monitored. So, in mid afternoon DH was admitted to an observation floor in the hospital and put in a nice large room by himself with curtained sliding doors. He seemed to be doing pretty well so I eventually went home to eat something and get some sleep. I was exhausted and very worried.

On Monday I was not allowed to visit him until 1 p.m., but we were able to talk on the phone. Fortunately, the arrhythmia had cleared up, and his echocardiogram looked good. Around 4 p.m. a doctor came by to go through his records and talk with us, and told us my husband could go home! Yippee!

But first they applied a heart monitor patch to his chest that he is supposed to wear for two weeks. If he has any heart related symptoms like shortness of breath, dizziness, chest pain, etc., he is supposed to push a button on the device and write down what is going on. So far he's had no symptoms, so that's good.

Because he was admitted, he was given a COVID test and we got the result 24 hours later: Negative.

He had given blood at Red Cross about 2 weeks ago, and they tested his blood for COVID antibodies: Negative.

That's a rather abbreviated version of what all went on, but I wanted to share it. I had so hoped we could avoid having to go to the ER or to the hospital during this pandemic, but it seems to have turned out OK. The hospital staff know what they are doing and I felt he was in good hands throughout. I was so happy to bring him home!! :) He saw his doctor yesterday, and he's doing well. :):) :)
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*From MayoClinic.com: "The vasovagal syncope trigger causes your heart rate and blood pressure to drop suddenly. That leads to reduced blood flow to your brain, causing you to briefly lose consciousness." ... "Vasovagal syncope occurs when the part of your nervous system that regulates heart rate and blood pressure malfunctions in response to a trigger, such as the sight of blood.

Your heart rate slows, and the blood vessels in your legs widen (dilate.) This allows blood to pool in your legs, which lowers your blood pressure. Combined, the drop in blood pressure and slowed heart rate quickly reduce blood flow to your brain, and you faint."

This had to be really hard on you! I'm so glad he's okay. And that your hospital was so on top of how to separate patients properly. These are the kinds of measures that will keep so many more of us safe, compared to back in March and early April.

I hope you both remain in good health. It's so good to hear a story with a happy ending.
 
  • #652
I checked my phone and, sure enough, it's on there.

Coronavirus logging function mysteriously appears on iPhones and Android devices

A MYSTERY "COVID-19 Exposure Logging" function has appeared in settings on iPhones and Android devices.

COVID-19 Exposure Logging can be accessed by iPhone and Android users through the "settings" section of both phones.

To access the COVID logging feature on iPhones, users must go under "settings," then click on "privacy," and lastly "health."

Android users can reportedly access the secretive feature by clicking "settings," then google, and then "settings" again.
This is hardly secret then, if this can be accessed.
 
  • #653
that is not the point
It is the point. Unless you know for a scientific fact that people are going to either contract the virus or spread it by being at this specific outdoor event, you have no business telling them what to do.
I went to an mayoral election returns party at the beginning of June. The only people wearing masks were the servers at the venue. No one contracted the virus and no one spread it. I suppose I could have stayed home and watched a re-run of Gunsmoke but I decided to attend-----and I'm glad I did.
 
  • #654
Ha you think this is just about THEM???????

This is an infectious disease! It’s about transmission to OTHERS! This is kindergarten Covid class 101!!!

How people can’t understand this is beyond me.
Everyone has been saying outdoor events are Ok though. And this county has low numbers with much still open. Seems to be a lot of contradictory info to what was being stated about Tulsa and Arizona.
 
  • #655
I can't say I blame them.

https://www.sacbee.com/article243985782.html

As coronavirus cases surge across the U.S., one Mexican state is closing itself off from its northern neighbor out of concern for safety, outlets report.

Officials in Sonora, Mexico moved quickly to slam the border shut before the start of the July Fourth weekend, traditionally a peak tourism time as Americans flock south to celebrate, the Arizona Daily Star reported.

Officials have not announced a reopening date.

Sonora is in a difficult position. It’s struggling to control the pandemic within its own borders, and just above is Arizona, one of the most afflicted states in the U.S..
 
  • #656
As an ethnographic-historian or little to no to unpublished repute, these carvings were done on sacred lands for the First Nations. The people who were here in the Before Colonial times. Many historians also believe in presentism: the concept that one cannot judge past actions from future sensibilities. This idea has so many problems it’s difficult to elucidate in one post.

However... that being said, on both the small sensibilities accorded to the First Nations and current health issues, this is wrong. We colonials ( I am both slave and slave owner by blood) should make an attempt, however small or indelicate, to understand those complexities. To hold a July 4th gala on sacred First Nation land is an abject insult. However, very few care. I do.
 
  • #657
This had to be really hard on you! I'm so glad he's okay. And that your hospital was so on top of how to separate patients properly. These are the kinds of measures that will keep so many more of us safe, compared to back in March and early April.

I hope you both remain in good health. It's so good to hear a story with a happy ending.

Thank you! I confess I was having lots of scary thoughts Sunday night when I came home alone...
 
  • #658
Abbott: This is the ‘last, best chance’ to contain COVID-19 before shutting down again | KXAN Austin

AUSTIN (Nexstar) — Gov. Greg Abbott says right now is the last chance for people in Texas to work to contain the spread of COVID-19 before having to force the economy to shut down.

“If we do not contain this measure right now, we will lose the last, best chance to slow the coronavirus for anything short of having to shut our economy back down,” Gov. Abbott said in an interview with KTAB. “That’s the last thing we want to have happen in Texas.”

According to the Governor, rising positive cases, hospitalizations and deaths since June were behind his decision to order Texans in counties with more than 20 positive cases to wear masks.


“Our goal is to make sure that people will be able to continue to prosper while also protecting their lives,” said Abbott. “We can achieve both by having people wear face masks.

He has a lot of gall. He barred municipalities from requiring masks. Actually barred them from doing so.

He has blood on his hands.
 
  • #659
Everyone has been saying outdoor events are Ok though. And this county has low numbers with much still open. Seems to be a lot of contradictory info to what was being stated about Tulsa and Arizona.

It is similarly remote and sparsely populated as where you live, with an equally good coronavirus track record because everyone has so far been sensible and conscientious. Would you be happy with 7500 party people rocking up near you? I imagine most locals would be pretty pissed off and worried about that.
 
  • #660
Everyone has been saying outdoor events are Ok though. And this county has low numbers with much still open. Seems to be a lot of contradictory info to what was being stated about Tulsa and Arizona.
And it's 94 degrees in Rapid City right now. Not virus friendly.
 
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