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He is going to be right at some point or we are all doomed.
it will disappear some day- but not before it takes a lot more victims
He is going to be right at some point or we are all doomed.
I read awhile back that Indiana had chosen to carry out tracing on the state level. We have a lot of smaller county health departments that were completely overwhelmed early on trying to trace. Ideally, this allows our health depts to concentrate on other tasks. Jmo
three words: LACK OF LEADERSHIP
We are all suffering, financially and emotionally, while trying to stay healthy.
Also, the restaurant sector is not the only business losing money right now.
Dr. Fauci addressed phone contract tracing at the Congressional hearing this week, as a weakness.
How does your state handle folks that will not answer the phone or give out contacts?
I do know Virginia is only doing phone contacts, and most are at the local level.
Looks like NY contact tracers are not having much success in general.Party Guests Won’t Talk After 9 Test Positive. Now They Face Subpoenas.
On June 17, a crowd of up to 100 people, most of them in their early 20s, attended a party at a home in Rockland County, N.Y.
The event violated a state order in effect at the time that capped gatherings at 10 people in an effort to slow the coronavirus’s spread.
For local officials, that was just the start of the problem.
The party’s host, who was showing signs of being sick at the time, later tested positive for the virus. So did eight guests.
County officials, eager to keep the cluster from growing, dispatched disease tracers to try to learn who else might have been exposed to the virus at the party.
The tracers hit a wall.
“My staff has been told that a person does not wish to, or have to, speak to my disease investigators,” Dr. Patricia Schnabel Ruppert, the county’s health commissioner said. Of those being contacted about the party, she added: “They hang up. They deny being at the party even though we have their names from another party attendee.”
Frustrated by the response, county officials took the unusual step of issuing subpoenas to eight people who they believe were at the June 17 party. Those who do not comply and share what they know by Thursday will face fines of $2,000 a day, officials said.
I honestly don't know. I'll see if I can find a recent update. I may or may not find an answer for you.![]()
And then there is this:Not so fast friend. Lest you think anything is safe this article was posted a while back:
That concerns Kim Prather, a scientist who studies the chemistry of the atmosphere at Scripps Institution of Oceanography. She’s worried about the potential for the virus to become airborne near the ocean.
In her research, Prather has found that the ocean churns up all kinds of particulate and microscopic pathogens, and every time the ocean sneezes with a big wave or two, it sprays these particles into the air. She believes that this new coronavirus is light enough to float through the air much farther than we think.“All the rules for six-foot social distancing when you’re at the beach do not apply,” Prather said.
If it’s windy, the exhaled virus will travel farther than six feet. That rule only applies for still air or indoors, Prather said. If a surfer is exhaling, the virus in those droplets could remain airborne and infectious for hours, she said.
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She suspected this virus was contagious by air, and knew from past studies that coronaviruses can be excreted in fecal matter.
She worries SARS-CoV-2 could enter the ocean from sewage spills and outfalls, and then reenter the atmosphere.
Scientists are unsure of coronavirus effects at the beach
More about the much discussed fecal/oral transmission route:
The Beach and COVID-19: Understanding the Risks
There is also reporting that speculated on the potential for the virus to become aerosolized in sea spray when polluted waterways are actively churned or agitated (such as when a wave breaks), but this is currently unsubstantiated and just speculative since we don’t know if the virus is infectious in raw sewage, or how it behaves after “exposure to air, sunlight, and water”. This concern was also discussed on an April 16 webinar from the Water Research Foundation, where researchers note that while the risks of getting sick with COVID-19 from exposure to polluted coastal aerosols are still unknown, untreated wastewater and sewage could include other substances beyond feces, such as saliva and mucus carrying the infectious COVID-19 virus, which may pose a risk to coastal recreators. But yet again, additional research is needed to confirm. Specific to aerosolized sewage, previous concerns were voiced in a 2009 study regarding the 2003 SARS-CoV outbreak, a virus closely related to the COVID-19 virus. Authors mention an instance where SARS-CoV “was spread when water contaminated with fecally shed virus was inhaled, causing respiratory infection” due to a faulty plumbing system in a Hong Kong apartment building.
Just imo
Looks like NY contact tracers are not having much success in general.
N.Y.C. Hired 3,000 Workers for Contact Tracing. It’s Off to a Slow Start.
That could be. But IMO we are the best situated to play whack a mole.![]()
Looks like NY contact tracers are not having much success in general.
N.Y.C. Hired 3,000 Workers for Contact Tracing. It’s Off to a Slow Start.
You can look up how well each state is doing in contact tracing on this site.
You can look up how well each state is doing in contact tracing on this site.
America’s COVID warning system
https://twitter.com/sfchronicle/status/1278543840367050757
People going to the meeting questioned the wisdom of holding an in-person gathering of that many, and now...
He is going to be right at some point or we are all doomed.
Insane that 40 principals would met in person to plan school reopenings. I think that their credibility is in the toilet.
Perhaps they should select a team of public health care workers to lay out the guidelines.
I wonder why that says New York has 100% contact traced when elsewhere it says they haven't. Jmo
New York City has reached out to 82% as of June 20:
Recent publicly available details from New York City Health and Hospitals illustrate the challenges of contact tracing in the NYC, one of the worst-hit U.S. cities. Of 7,584 reported COVID-19 cases from June 1-20, case investigators reached 82%, but just 37% provided at least one contact. The investigators reached 68% of the 6,672 identified contacts they were given.
Test & Trace: Data
Is contact tracing -- key to COVID-19 fight -- working?
Link to the job post/description for NY contact tracers - Careers - PCG | Public Consulting Group - Solutions that Matter
Link to general info for NY contact tracing - New York State Contact Tracing