Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #65

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  • #201
Bahaha the local news person joked on that story This morning . Nice giggle to start my day.
Later on below the article it says it's cancelled.

ETA. I think that's no joke but irresponsible reporting. Doesn't he know there is a state of emergency?
 
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  • #203
This is a quote from the article linked below, re CoVid-19:

//The most important thing may be this: get used to it. This is how we live now.

Sorry to be brutal, but the biggest danger to us all, individually and collectively, has been the entirely understandable yet absolutely intolerable longing to "return to normal". We do not get to return to normal. Kidding yourself otherwise will only increase your suffering. It risks your life, it risks others' lives, and, 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 it, it protracts your psychological adjustment to this state of affairs and draws out your misery. The faster you can come to terms with the fact that this is just how it is now, the faster you can get to some peace of mind. Weep about it, rage about it, be brought low by it, go through whatever emotional process grief is for you. Normal died. Conduct whatever funeral you need.

Then pick yourself up and go on.

Some of you are asking, "But, for how long? How long do we have to live like this?" If you're asking the question, the answer is "forever". That question in this context is just a way of resisting reality; it's Kübler-Ross' "bargaining" stage of grief. It's an attempt to reduce – to bargain down – the magnitude of the loss. Don't. Don't try to convince yourself this isn't as bad as it is. That backfires spectacularly.
//

This point of view is realistic, if there's not a vaccine upcoming. Vaccine news is all over the place, I'll share some of that later. I'd really like to have WS's point of view on vaccine fears.

The above quote comes from a well-reasoned (but opinionated) blog here:

siderea | Prep/Pandemic: Stage 4, I guess: What You Should Be Doing Now [COVID-19, ethics, psych, Patreon]

There are some interesting reminders about food supplies - now an issue both in USA and UK (at least).
That's a great article. Thank you.
 
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  • #205
You are right, Tresir....these are good graphs and charts. You have such a good handle on finding data.........do you have a good source for finding how many tests are being done in each state. Either total numbers, or %/🤬🤬🤬.

I am wondering, because I am also trying to track where there are bad tests. Some of my relatives in New England have been telling me that they are getting lots of corrupted tests...not sure of where they are coming from though....
So we would have to know which state. This map show those states as steady or increasing depending where they live. Are they in New Hampshire like you?

Coronavirus cases flat or growing in 48 states

Coronavirus cases flat or growing in 48 states

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Data: The COVID Tracking Project, state health departments; Map: Andrew Witherspoon, Sara Wise, Naema Ahmed, Danielle Alberti/Axios

The number of coronavirus cases increased in the vast majority of states over the last week, and decreased in only two states plus the District of Columbia.

Why it matters: This is a grim reminder that no part of the United States is safe from the virus. If states fail to contain their outbreaks, they could soon face exponential spread and overwhelmed health systems.

Flashback: A month and a half ago, shortly after states began reopening, cases were decreasing or holding steady in most states. The rapid spread of the virus since then shows how quickly the state of the pandemic can change.
 
  • #206
The readiness and organization for an outbreak of this magnitude was not in place during the Obama administration either. JMO

Well, of course the Obama administration wasn’t ready for this...the world hasn’t seen an outbreak of this magnitude since 1918! So no one in the world was perfectly prepared. But listening to experts and having an organization of experts in place and a “playbook” (as Obama did) at least means you don’t have to start from next to nothing and reinvent the wheel. Once you’ve disbanded your team they go on to other things and you can’t get them back as quickly as you need them.
JMO

ETA: We’ll just have to agree to disagree. :)
 
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  • #207
I’m part of a research study through Kaiser. Any Kaiser member who wants to volunteer can (although many people are too suspicious to do so). They took massive vials of my blood a few years ago. They will have access to my redacted health records. No name or anything that could show who I am.

But they can track my health as I age, all the way through to the time I die. It gives them a huge amount of data for various kinds of research.

After giving them the blood, there was nothing else to do. Until a couple months ago.

Now, every two weeks they send me a questionnaire to fill out all about COVID. my lifestyle, who lives with me, symptoms, if any, changes in lifestyle, work, loss of work, mental health status, testing, and test results.

It’s interesting. They’re going to have so much data for research into all aspects of this disease.
 
  • #208
Florida shatters records with over 10,000 new COVID-19 cases in single day

(Reuters) - Florida shattered records on Thursday when it reported over 10,000 new coronavirus cases, the biggest one-day increase in the state since the pandemic started, according to a Reuters tally.

Outbreaks in Texas, California, Florida and Arizona have helped the United States break records and send cases rising at rates not seen since April.

In June, Florida infections rose by 168% or over 95,000 new cases. The percent of tests coming back positive has skyrocketed to 15% from 4% at the end of May.

Florida, with 21 million residents, has reported more new daily coronavirus cases than any European country had at the height of their outbreaks.

America’s COVID warning system

This real time site is SO great.
So easy to see why Florida is in so much trouble.


You can put in your own state to see your own statistics.

Below are Florida's:


INFECTION RATE
Active cases are rapidly increasing

1.38

High
POSITIVE TEST RATE
Indicates insufficient testing
15.9%

High
ICU HEADROOM USED
Can likely handle a new wave of COVID
32%Beta

Low
CONTACTS TRACED
Too many cases and too little tracing
5%Beta
Critical
 
  • #209
With his health issues and age, why would he go to a rally with no mask and a bunch of other maskless people in attendance?

Rhetorical question, right? I am pretty sure an honest answer is against the TOS.
 
  • #210
Aww I see lots of elephants have been getting discovered deceased.. 350 since May. 1 picture showed a herd of them. Experts dont think it is poachers since their tusks are with all the remains. They have yet to rule out poison but seems more likely they have contracted some sort of virus/disease. Just like us humans! All very strangeX

My kids couldn't hunt last year due to deer dropping dead.
 
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The readiness and organization for an outbreak of this magnitude was not in place during the Obama administration either. JMO

The administration had developed an actual pandemic play book for the Trump administration to use. It included mention of a possible novel coronavirus, among other things:


Evidence Shows Obama Team Left A Pandemic ‘Game Plan’ For Trump Administration


And then there was the dismantling of the pandemic response team:

“The Global Health Security and Biodefense unit — responsible for pandemic preparedness — was established in 2015 by Barack Obama’s National Security Advisor, Susan Rice ( here ). The unit resided under the National Security Council (NSC) — a forum of White House personnel that advises the president on national security and foreign policy matters.

In May 2018, the team was disbanded and its head Timothy Ziemer, top White House official in the NSC for leading U.S. response against a pandemic, left the Trump administration, the Washington Post reported ( here ). Some members of the global health and security team were merged into other units within the NSC, the article said.”

Partly false claim: Trump fired entire pandemic response team in 2018

The article gives a mixed verdict on the supposed reorganization of a system the current administration deemed bloated.

But to say the former administration wasn’t ready for anything this big isn’t necessarily true.

We obviously see that this pandemic shook every nation. But some were more prepared to get a handle on it and come up with comprehensive plans, than others. We have not been so good at it.

The Netflix series Pandemic, which my family and I ironically watched right when this thing was erupting in China, shows that medical experts indeed knew exactly what the risks were and that a pandemic was going to come. They also knew how to deal with it and have prepared expensively. Sadly, politicians don’t always play ball.

A Netflix series predicted a global pandemic. It was dismissed as 'a show about the flu'

But, watching this thing unfold, it’s clear that various governmental officials from every level of government in the US, federal, state, county, and city, of every political persuasion, have made massive mistakes in handling this.

Hopefully we can all learn from this.
 
  • #213
One of the things that I liked about this blog post is that the blogger feels that the things one does for one's personal safety and one's public duty align 100% at this time. To stay safe, wash your hands, wear masks, and keep your distance. Stay home as much as your circumstances allow. Herman Cain, despite his publically known high-risk status, chose to do something very risky that was not essential. Now he is in a hospital, taking up resources that could have been used for an essential worker like a firefighter, health care worker, or grocery store associate.

Maybe we should just throw him out in the street because he isn't "essential"? But then we would need to close treatment to everyone that isn't a firefighter, health care worker, or grocery store associate? I'm wondering what the occupations should be that don't receive treatment so important people can. Jmo
 
  • #214
This is a quote from the article linked below, re CoVid-19:

//The most important thing may be this: get used to it. This is how we live now.

Sorry to be brutal, but the biggest danger to us all, individually and collectively, has been the entirely understandable yet absolutely intolerable longing to "return to normal". We do not get to return to normal. Kidding yourself otherwise will only increase your suffering. It risks your life, it risks others' lives, and, 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 it, it protracts your psychological adjustment to this state of affairs and draws out your misery. The faster you can come to terms with the fact that this is just how it is now, the faster you can get to some peace of mind. Weep about it, rage about it, be brought low by it, go through whatever emotional process grief is for you. Normal died. Conduct whatever funeral you need.

Then pick yourself up and go on.

Some of you are asking, "But, for how long? How long do we have to live like this?" If you're asking the question, the answer is "forever". That question in this context is just a way of resisting reality; it's Kübler-Ross' "bargaining" stage of grief. It's an attempt to reduce – to bargain down – the magnitude of the loss. Don't. Don't try to convince yourself this isn't as bad as it is. That backfires spectacularly.
//

This point of view is realistic, if there's not a vaccine upcoming. Vaccine news is all over the place, I'll share some of that later. I'd really like to have WS's point of view on vaccine fears.

The above quote comes from a well-reasoned (but opinionated) blog here:

siderea | Prep/Pandemic: Stage 4, I guess: What You Should Be Doing Now [COVID-19, ethics, psych, Patreon]

There are some interesting reminders about food supplies - now an issue both in USA and UK (at least).

Brilliant article! “Normal died” is basically what I emailed my daughter last night about a job-related move that’s been in the works for almost a year. I will send this to her.

I’m interested in the type of person who reaches the “acceptance” stage immediately and doesn’t try to “bargain” inwardly for an early resolution to the pandemic. I’m that accepting person, not to my credit...it’s just who I am. I didn’t have to work to get there. How do I differ from someone who rails against the unfairness of it all and is still in denial? It would be an interesting study. :)
 
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  • #216
Coronavirus: Five deaths and 15 new cases confirmed in Ireland

HEALTH OFFICIALS HAVE confirmed a further five patients diagnosed with Covid-19 have died and there are 15 new cases of the disease in Ireland.

A total of 1,738 people have died from Covid in Ireland while there are now 25,489 confirmed cases.

The National Public Health Emergency Team (NPHET) has this week expressed concern about non-essential travel, with 31 cases of coronavirus last month associated with travel.

Chief medical officer, Dr Tony Holohan said each person must undertake their own “personal mission” to eradicate the virus from the nation.

He said: “What has been a collective and effective national effort to suppress Covid-19 in Ireland, now also becomes an individual mission. Every person must risk assess their own environments, make appropriate decisions about where they will go and who they will meet, and how they can ensure their safety and the safety of those around them.

“Continue to follow public health advice, understand the risks of your actions and environments and stay safe.”
 
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Maybe we should just throw him out in the street because he isn't "essential"? But then we would need to close treatment to everyone that isn't a firefighter, health care worker, or grocery store associate? I'm wondering what the occupations should be that don't receive treatment so important people can. Jmo

I think the point is more about people who deliberately put themselves in CoVid territory through repeated voluntary actions. I personally think that interstate travel should be only for essential people right now.

I also hope that more states put travel quarantines into their policies, having seen incidents like this. It's probably impossible to keep large local gatherings from happening, but states can surely quarantine (and require the traveler to pay the cost, if they wish).

Are you trying to say that there's no reasonable way to designate "essential" employees? I think there is and that each state has a pretty similar idea of what those occupations are.
 
  • #220
This is a quote from the article linked below, re CoVid-19:

//The most important thing may be this: get used to it. This is how we live now.

Sorry to be brutal, but the biggest danger to us all, individually and collectively, has been the entirely understandable yet absolutely intolerable longing to "return to normal". We do not get to return to normal. Kidding yourself otherwise will only increase your suffering. It risks your life, it risks others' lives, and, 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 it, it protracts your psychological adjustment to this state of affairs and draws out your misery. The faster you can come to terms with the fact that this is just how it is now, the faster you can get to some peace of mind. Weep about it, rage about it, be brought low by it, go through whatever emotional process grief is for you. Normal died. Conduct whatever funeral you need.

Then pick yourself up and go on.

Some of you are asking, "But, for how long? How long do we have to live like this?" If you're asking the question, the answer is "forever". That question in this context is just a way of resisting reality; it's Kübler-Ross' "bargaining" stage of grief. It's an attempt to reduce – to bargain down – the magnitude of the loss. Don't. Don't try to convince yourself this isn't as bad as it is. That backfires spectacularly.
//

This point of view is realistic, if there's not a vaccine upcoming. Vaccine news is all over the place, I'll share some of that later. I'd really like to have WS's point of view on vaccine fears.

The above quote comes from a well-reasoned (but opinionated) blog here:

siderea | Prep/Pandemic: Stage 4, I guess: What You Should Be Doing Now [COVID-19, ethics, psych, Patreon]

There are some interesting reminders about food supplies - now an issue both in USA and UK (at least).

That was a good read, thanks for the link.
 
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