Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #65

[MsArk]

AUSTIN (KXAN) — On Thursday, Gov. Greg Abbott issued an executive order that requires all Texans to wear face coverings over their nose and mouth in public spaces, with exceptions.

REQUIRED: All Texans must wear face coverings, Gov. Greg Abbott orders | WJHL | Tri-Cities News & Weather

 

[HongKongPhooey]

I just realized that coming on this thread put me in an immediate lousy mood. Not because of any of the members ... just the news ... there's so much of it and it's all bad. I'm gonna go outside to enjoy the beautiful weather and try to forget about Covid for awhile (good luck with that I know).

I did that earlier Lady L. Tied some wayward Jasmine onto the arch it's growing on and thought of nothing else for a bit. Well, other than will the birds eat all my raspberries AND my gooseberries

 

[tresir2012]

I think most of us in this forum feel the same way.

I don't know anyone who feels that this is a hoax or that it is a conspiracy. We are happy to be coming out of lockdown though after 3 months.

 

[CharlestonGal]

Nashville closing all bars for at least two weeks amid COVID-19 clusters

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (WZTV) - Nashville is closing all bars in Davidson County for two weeks as clusters have emerged.

Mayor John Cooper made the announcement Thursday as the city is reverting back to a modified Phase 2 on the "Roadmap to Reopening."

Bars that received the majority from their revenue from alcohol sales will close for at least 14 days, Cooper said, which is equal to one incubation cycle of the coronavirus.

Dr. Alex Jaganhir said 10 bars across the city have 30 confirmed cases of COVID-19. Those cases are only employees of bars and Dr. Jahangir said the number of cases connected to these businesses could be much higher because other people may have come in contact with those who were infected.

The closures go into effect on Friday, just in time to kick off July 4th holiday weekend. Nashville has canceled it's annual Independence Day fireworks show.

Event and entertainment venues are also being temporarily closed under the new modified Phase 2. Restaurants are being scaled back to 50% capacity.

Metro Health reported a record daily high of 608 new COVID-19 cases on Thursday. Masks became mandatory to wear in Nashville on Monday.

 

[tresir2012]

If he doesn't like wearing a mask, he's really not going to like wearing a ventilator.

He's not on a ventilator and currently stable.

 

[Victoria Chambers]

i have a question--we are having our air onditioner replaced
tomorrow-- the guys will be mostly in the basement and outside--
do you think they need to keep their masks on while they work
in the basement and outdoors-- we dont plan to be around them
in the basement though we might talk to them when they work
outdoors

For yourself and your families sake, they need to keep their masks on. You just do not know how many other homes they have worked in, wether they are infected etc. Better to be safe than sorry X

 

[tabitha111]

A National Mask Mandate Could Save the U.S. Economy $1 Trillion.

A National Mask Mandate Could Save The U.S. Economy $1 Trillion, Goldman Sachs Says

Updated Jun 30, 2020

KEY FACTS
Goldman’s analysts found that wearing face coverings has a significant impact on coronavirus outcomes, and they suggest that a federal mask mandate would “meaningfully” increase mask usage across the country, especially in states like Florida and Texas, where masks are not currently required.

The researchers estimate that a national mandate would increase the portion of people wearing masks by 15 percentage points, and cut the daily growth of new cases by 1.0 percentage point to 0.6%.

Reducing the spread of the virus through mask-wearing, the analysts found, could be a substitute for strict lockdown measures that would otherwise shave 5%—or $1 trillion—off the U.S. GDP.

 

[ilovewings]

Broadway actor Nick Cordero may need double lung transplant after COVID-19 battle

Broadway actor Nick Cordero will likely need a double lung transplant as he continues to recover from the coronavirus, his wife recently explained.

Cordero, 41, has been hospitalized in Los Angeles since late March and has already had his leg amputated due to complications from COVID-19. The Tony-nominated actor is now COVID-negative and no longer in a coma.


But the coronavirus has caused a lot of damage.

Amanda Kloots, Cordero's wife, told CBS This Morning that he is still considered critically ill and the "ultimate goal" would be for him to get a double lung transplant, but "a lot of things would have to line up" for him to be a candidate.

"Nick's body is extremely weak. Muscles have atrophied, so he can't move his body yet," Kloots told Gayle King on CBS This Morning. " He can still open his eyes, and when he is alert and awake, he'll answer commands by looking up or down, yes or no questions. When I'm asking him, he will even try to smile or move his jaw. The nurses have all said that he answers my questions the best."

Describing the situation, Kloots called it "the vicious circle or the ICU dance."

"You just feel like you're in this momentum of going around, around, around like a hamster wheel. And I just want to get us out of the hamster wheel," Kloots said.

OMG--- this poor man--

 

[BeckyF]

This is a quote from the article linked below, re CoVid-19:

//The most important thing may be this: get used to it. This is how we live now.

Sorry to be brutal, but the biggest danger to us all, individually and collectively, has been the entirely understandable yet absolutely intolerable longing to "return to normal". We do not get to return to normal. Kidding yourself otherwise will only increase your suffering. It risks your life, it risks others' lives, and, it, it protracts your psychological adjustment to this state of affairs and draws out your misery. The faster you can come to terms with the fact that this is just how it is now, the faster you can get to some peace of mind. Weep about it, rage about it, be brought low by it, go through whatever emotional process grief is for you. Normal died. Conduct whatever funeral you need.

Then pick yourself up and go on.

Some of you are asking, "But, for how long? How long do we have to live like this?" If you're asking the question, the answer is "forever". That question in this context is just a way of resisting reality; it's Kübler-Ross' "bargaining" stage of grief. It's an attempt to reduce – to bargain down – the magnitude of the loss. Don't. Don't try to convince yourself this isn't as bad as it is. That backfires spectacularly.
//

This point of view is realistic, if there's not a vaccine upcoming. Vaccine news is all over the place, I'll share some of that later. I'd really like to have WS's point of view on vaccine fears.

The above quote comes from a well-reasoned (but opinionated) blog here:

siderea | Prep/Pandemic: Stage 4, I guess: What You Should Be Doing Now [COVID-19, ethics, psych, Patreon]

There are some interesting reminders about food supplies - now an issue both in USA and UK (at least).

Very good article. It’s hard to accept our new reality but it is necessary.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

i have a question--we are having our air onditioner replaced
tomorrow-- the guys will be mostly in the basement and outside--
do you think they need to keep their masks on while they work
in the basement and outdoors-- we dont plan to be around them
in the basement though we might talk to them when they work
outdoors

DH and I have had several contractors here in the last few weeks since Michigan basically reopened. No one has a worn a mask outdoors or when they came into the house. We both always donned our masks and kept sufficient distance from anyone who has been in the house. DH had to be tested prior to returning to work on Monday and was negative for the virus. I was seen by my primary care physician yesterday, and she said there is no reason for me to be tested because I have no symptoms. Other than my current anxiety over the whole COVID "thing", I am fine. She is adjusting one of my meds, and I will be back in the office again next Thursday. My advice to you and your DH is to wear your masks and stay away from anyone who enters your home. You will be fine Have a wonderful holiday weekend, neighbor!

 

[10ofRods]

Where are you getting 0.05% from? It's just under 5% for the USA (130,000 deaths out of approx 2,800,000 cases)

I hope someone answers this, because every time I turn around, someone on SM says this (that it's 0.05%) but WorldOMeter has it much higher.

 

[Tony1902]

Again, I reaaaallly feel for the people in the hot south. Talk about miserable. Hot mask. It has to be done though. Poor folks. Texas and Arizona and Florida (and other States) can be sweltering as it is.

It’s like breathing through a wet towel when the temp is 85 & humidity just as bad.

 

[Bravo]

I have been following Nick Cordero since he was diagnosed. He is Canadian and in fact from my Province of Ontario. He has endured soooo much.

 

[COSCitizen]

I hope someone answers this, because every time I turn around, someone on SM says this (that it's 0.05%) but WorldOMeter has it much higher.

Perhaps someone made an arithmetic error (percentages are hard!) and it just took on a life of its own. This is why links are nice.

 

[10ofRods]

Somewhat pertinent, and pandemic related:

In order to help support Colorado restaurants during the pandemic, they are now allowed to sell alcohol to go. Previously, alcohol had to be bought at liquor stores (or grocery stores, but they were limited in how strong the alcohol could be.) When I first heard this, I thought "that's nice."

Last week, I had to run an errand to near where I used to live, which was one block away from one a restaurant which is a favorite of my friend and I. We would get lunch there and we would each have a margarita every couple of months. I asked my friend if she would like me to pick up takeout so we could have lunch together (six feet apart) on her deck. I called in our order of a chicken quesadilla and chicken enchilada. When I got there to pick it up I asked if I could get two margaritas on the rocks to go. The restaurant worker looked at my gray hair and said "sure" and added two margaritas in plastic to-go cups.

I don't believe I have ever before driven with open alcohol in the car in my life but I figured that I could point to the time on the receipt and the full cups if I got pulled over. My friend lived about twenty minutes away so the food was still warm and the margaritas were still cold. Best d**** margarita in my entire life.

Huzzah!

I can almost taste it.

 

[SoCalDavidS]

Haven't said much today, but I feel like I need to stop by at least once a day to say the following:

On the World Stage, we are a Complete & Utter Embarrassment in terms of how we've handled the Covid-19 outbreak.

 

[ilovewings]

DH and I have had several contractors here in the last few weeks since Michigan basically reopened. No one has a worn a mask outdoors or when they came into the house. We both always donned our masks and kept sufficient distance from anyone who has been in the house. DH had to be tested prior to returning to work on Monday and was negative for the virus. I was seen by my primary care physician yesterday, and she said there is no reason for me to be tested because I have no symptoms. Other than my current anxiety over the whole COVID "thing", I am fine. She is adjusting one of my meds, and I will be back in the office again next Thursday. My advice to you and your DH is to wear your masks and stay away from anyone who enters your home. You will be fine Have a wonderful holiday weekend, neighbor!

Thanks for you suggestion-it is appreciated--you have a great holiday too!!!!

 

[Bravo]

It saddens me to see what is happening in the U.S. These numbers are astounding as of late.

 

[CharlestonGal]

I hope someone answers this, because every time I turn around, someone on SM says this (that it's 0.05%) but WorldOMeter has it much higher.

IFR will not be known until long after the pandemic is over. CFR can be calculated in real time, which is what we see on sites like worldometer.

ETA: The OP is arguing that IFR is .05%, which is likely to be in the ballpark when all is said and done, but it cannot be definitively calculated as of yet. OP is not talking about CFR, which is the 5% or 10% we see on various sites.

Having said that, debating IFR at this point is fruitless as this number cannot be calculated by anyone. People are making educated guesses, but this number is not knowable.

 

[wyome]

i have a question--we are having our air onditioner replaced
tomorrow-- the guys will be mostly in the basement and outside--
do you think they need to keep their masks on while they work
in the basement and outdoors-- we dont plan to be around them
in the basement though we might talk to them when they work
outdoors

I've had a/c people in the past few days service both of my units. I backed off and told them to take the masks off. It's hotter than hell (working both in my home and garage). When they needed to come in, they donned the masks anyway. We didn't; our choice, but kept a distance.

Do what makes you comfortable. I guess there's no right or wrong answer.