Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #65

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Atlanta’s Herman Cain hospitalized with COVID-19

Some more info.

“There is no way of knowing for sure how or where Mr. Cain contracted the coronavirus, but we do know he is a fighter who has beaten Stage 4 cancer,” the statement noted.

In 2006, Cain recovered from stage four colon cancer.

Cain attended President Donald Trump’s rally June 20 in Tulsa, Oklahoma and posted a photo on his social media.

The 74-year-old Henry County resident, who ran for president in 2012, has been hosting a radio show on his website and recently began hosting a TV show on conservative TV outlet NewsMaxTV.

He previously worked at news/talk WSB radio for several years and was a syndicated host from 2013 to 2017.

Trump last year briefly considered placing Cain on the board of the Federal Reserve.

Dan Calabrese, editor of hermancain.com, wrote in a post today that “people will speculate about the Tulsa rally, but Herman did a lot of traveling the past week, including to Arizona where cases are spiking. I don’t think there’s any way to trace this to the one specific contact that caused him to be infected. We’ll never know.”

As he works for MSM I guess we can post a Twitter feed regarding his improvement. If not, mods please delete.

Appears to be improving.



Herman Cain
@THEHermanCain


Good morning!
@RobertLaurie
here with good news. We just received a message from HC. His oxygen levels are improving, he's had no complications from the meds, & he’s in no pain. We're grateful to God and for your prayers. Keep them coming! We're confident Herman will back soon!
9:30 AM · Jul 3, 2020·Twitter Web App
 
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I wish that they'd find a new and more accurate phrase for "shut the economy down". This phrase isn't even true. Much of the economy is continuing through tighter physical distancing. Telling everyone that they are shutting the economy down creates fear instead of co-operation. It's a last resort instead of a logical, forward thinking way to deal with CoVid.

The fastest way to get people back to work is to clean up CoVid, so why aren't they rephrasing it? "Shut Down Covid" instead of "Shut Down the Economy"!

Stop covid or save the economy? We can do both.
That's an interesting point. I was surprised when my American friend started referring to "lockdown" in mid-March, I'd never heard the word and asked what it meant. Here in Canada, officials specifically said it was not a lockdown. They only offered strong guidance on the requirements for safe business practises, which led many of them to temporarily shut down in order to protect their staff and customers. So the media started to refer to the situation as a 'shutdown', but never a 'lockdown'.

Shutdown is voluntary, lockdown is imposed. It's true that, where major outbreaks happened such as factories, the government did intervene and issue an order to cease operations for a limited period until the outbreak was under control.

As an outside observer of the US politics, it just seems people are reacting, on all sides, to imaginary bogeymen, rather than to the realities.
 
  • #543
March16,2020

"For every known case of coronavirus, another five to 10 cases are out there undetected, a new study suggests."

Coronavirus Is Hiding in Plain Sight
Coronavirus Is Hiding in Plain Sight

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And this was back in March
Math and I are not friends, but guessing the numbers are higher now

Wow. So Arizona with 23.8% positive would actually have 100% based on that.
 
  • #544
he tested positive after he went to the party: what happened was that he knew was exposed to someone with virus at a BBQ- but he decided to go to a party anyway; he developed symptoms, was tested, and died 3 days later. The bad part of course is that he knew he was exposed but went to a party anyway and i can assure you he is one of many who have done this---spreading the virus all over the place.
Thomas Macias posted he regretted attending a party. He died of coronavirus the next day - CNN

“A friend who was at the party reached out to Macias to say he had coronavirus, and he was aware of the diagnosis when he attended the gathering but didn't think he could infect anyone because he had no symptoms, Lopez said.

"Our understanding is that a gentleman had called him and said 'hey I was at the party, I knew I was positive. I didn't tell anybody,'" Lopez said.”
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.....his “friend” had tested positive and thought he couldn’t spread it - but did not tell anyone until AFTERWARDS.

What if his friend had told him - do you think the guy that died would have gone?
 
  • #545
9,488 cases already today in FL.
 
  • #546
Hi all, so my parents had their new oven installed today. They followed all the advice here, thanks everyone. The guy managed to access the kitchen by the side door of the house and the oven was installed just inside the door. He wore a mask and gloves. My parents wore masks and stayed in a different room. He was less than half an hour. V happy parents, chuffed with their shiny new oven.
 
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https://www.newsobserver.com/news/article243982777.html

Florida's most populous county instituted an overnight curfew, and beaches and businesses began closing down again as the state's number of COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations keep rising, threatening a further spread during the festive Fourth of July weekend.

Miami-Dade County Mayor Carlos Gimenez said the 10 p.m.to 6 a.m. curfew begins Friday and will be in place indefinitely. The order closes casinos, strip clubs, movie theaters and other entertainment venues a month after they were allowed to reopen.

“This curfew is meant to stop people from venturing out and hanging out with friends in groups, which has shown to be spreading the virus rapidly,” Gimenez said in a statement.
 
  • #548
CNN have reported them exact numbers for days! I'm not in the habit of spreading rumours. X
Well if you have the CNN link it would be appreciated.

I have a link to the Chinese study from March in the NYT that the OP posted but am wondering how China would have had this data in March when their epidemic was so young. So am posting it for review.

Substantial undocumented infection facilitates the rapid dissemination of novel coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2)

This would also mean that Trump saying it will disappear could be close to happening if there are a further undetected number of cases equivalent to 90% of known cases. That would greatly help in taking the US towards herd immunity.
 
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North Carolina sees highest one-day increase in new cases, surpasses 2,000 for the first time

The North Carolina Department of Health and Human Services on Friday reported the highest number of new cases so far in the pandemic -- passing 2,000 new confirmed cases for the first time.

2,099 new cases were reported on Friday, as we go into the 4th of July weekend.

The state also reported the highest number of hospitalizations ever with 951.

"Highest new case count, highest hospitalizations, highest percent positive since end of April," Dr. Betsey Tilson tweeted on Friday. "Please be cautious this holiday weekend. No big groups, wear a face covering, wait 6 feet away, wash your hands."
 
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https://www.newsweek.com/gop-rep-refuses-wear-mask-thrown-out-gettysburg-museum-1515302

An Ohio state representative said she was told to leave the Gettysburg Museum in Pennsylvania on Thursday after she and her husband refused to wear face masks in the building.

The Republican state lawmaker said the pair's tickets were refunded after they declined to wear the protective gear, despite the Gettsyburg Foundation website clearly warning visitors that face coverings are mandatory.

Posting on social media about the incident, Rep. Keller also called requirements to wear face masks "unconstituional" and suggested Americans were "losing their rights" amid the coronavirus pandemic.

The Cincinnati Enquirer reported that the GOP lawmaker had previously refused to have her temperature checked as she entered Ohio' State House of Representatives.
 
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Iowa news today: 389-390 (IMO) new confirmed cases and 3 more have passed away. As of 11:00 a.m., we now have 30,355 total confirmed cases of which the Iowa covid site says 24,257 have recovered (news says 24,243 as of 10:00) and 720 total have passed. Iowa COVID-19 Information
July 3: Nearly 400 cases brings state total to over 30,000
COVID-19 contact tracing proves difficult for Iowans
Small schools in Iowa say they have an advantage in Return to Learn plans
University of Iowa Health Care seeing rise in staff testing positive for COVID-19
Muscatine Mayor to issue city-wide mandatory face mask proclamation in the coming days
 
  • #552
March16,2020

"For every known case of coronavirus, another five to 10 cases are out there undetected, a new study suggests."

Coronavirus Is Hiding in Plain Sight
Coronavirus Is Hiding in Plain Sight

Edited to add-
And this was back in March
Math and I are not friends, but guessing the numbers are higher now

I don't think that's any kind of constant, reliable formula. It may have been true in mid-March, when there was very little testing and it was spreading rapidly in some places like New York. In Mexico, because there's a high death toll and hardly any testing, officials have cited 17 to 1.

It really depends on how much testing, and how active the spread is, as detected through hospital admissions. It means the testing can't possibly keep up with the cases, and has ceased to be a tool that can be used.
 
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Alabama adds staggering 1,758 coronavirus cases since yesterday

The number of confirmed coronavirus cases in Alabama continues to skyrocket.

The Alabama Department of Public Health’s July 3 10 a.m. numbers show 41,362 COVID-19 cases, an increase of 1,758 per day, a record high. The 7-day average of cases is now a record 1,092. Hospitalizations rose to their highest level, too, reaching 843.

There have been 983 deaths, up 22 from yesterday. ADPH said 430,128 people have been tested with 22,082 recoveries.
 
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GA was just shy of 3,500 cases yesterday. I shouted when I read it. I was thinking it might drop for a day after the giant spike the day before. I'm truly nervous about today's numbers. I sat in the car as dh made 2 in person trips in a mask to finish up our shopping for a month. The OVERWHELMING majority of people were not entering or leaving the store with a mask on. I only saw a handful of senior citizen ages with masks on.
 
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With a worsening pandemic, California bans singing in places of worship - ABC17NEWS

While you can still attend in-person church services in California, you can’t sing.

The state, to curb a rapidly worsening pandemic, has temporarily banned singing and chanting in places of worship.

“Practices and performances present an increased likelihood for transmission of Covid-19 through contaminated exhaled droplets and should occur through alternative methods like internet streaming,” the state’s Department of Public Health announced in an order Wednesday.
 
  • #559
I saw what I thought was a weird claim on Facebook, so I thought I would ask @10ofRods about it via private message. But then I found an actual article on it, so I guess I will go ahead and post here. This would be wonderful if true, for those of us with fibromyalgia. This would be the only upside to having fibro that I've ever seen.

University of Illinois College of Medicine and EpicGenetics Deploy Test to Determine Patients Most Likely to Avoid Potentially Fatal Cytokine Storms that May Trigger the Most Severe Cases of COVID-19

I'm sad you have fibromyalgia (my best friend does too - I just sent her that article). It's great that the human genome side of this is getting ready to publish research.

This will also be very helpful in warning people about their risk, if we could have broader testing. I wonder if 23andme will start advising on this particular pair of genes.

Thanks so much for posting! I know you won't let your guard down, but it is a ray of sunshine.
 
  • #560
My theory about those who claim this is all a hoax, is that they are likely poorly educated, and have never been outside of their community. They are not able to make rational conclusions based on facts. In fact, they don't seem to be able to separate facts from fiction.

I see them as child-like in their understanding of the world. I wouldn't be surprised if they were the same people who would blame the medical authorities for not knowing, from the start, all the details of how CoVid manifests itself, as if scientists are born with all the facts.

Hoaxers don't understand how scientists can say one thing, and then a month later change what they are saying based on further research, or how two groups of researchers can put forward seemingly conflicting information. That throws them into confusion and they rush back to their comfortable, hoax-based understanding of the world. They don't know how learning works, because they've never had the experience. jmo
Outstanding post. Thank you.
 
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