Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #66

Status
Not open for further replies.
  • #161
Yes, and siblings have to share the same seat. Students will sit in exactly the same spot each time they use the bus.

Our schools are talking about having only half the students in the building at anytime. They'll have all their classes with a single teacher and will stay as a pod. They won't mingle with other kids at recess. I'm not sure how any of that will work, but the administrative leaders have a while to figure it out. I am assuming that the breakfast program will be cancelled.

wow sounds like a huge headache
I don't envy anyone trying to coordinate and execute this
 
  • #162
  • #163
Worldometers has closed it's day, and for Saturday, the U.S. had 45,182 New Cases & 254 Deaths.
 
  • #164
Worldometers has closed it's day, and for Saturday, the U.S. had 45,182 New Cases & 254 Deaths.

sometimes I just stare at the numbers
because they can't be real can they?
~sigh~
 
  • #165
But it's not over yet.

ETA, I'm not sure, but it seems that once it gets embedded in old-age or retirement homes, that's where the carnage really happens.

45% of all UK deaths have been in care homes. It’s our saddest legacy - we didn’t look after the oldies quickly enough. We moved all the in-patients out of hospitals to protect them, without realising how many already had Covid and how it would spread like wildfire amongst their carers and peers. The rest will be our tragic history :(
 
Last edited:
  • #166
Worldometers has closed it's day, and for Saturday, the U.S. had 45,182 New Cases & 254 Deaths.

And many counties and cities hadn’t reported because of the holiday. After the lower weekend figures are published I wonder what numbers we’ll see on Tuesday.

Also waiting to see how the UK fares in cases after this weekends pub reopening. I’ve heard my nearest city (Leeds) was not as hectic as expected, so fingers crossed people have behaved
 
  • #167
And many counties and cities hadn’t reported because of the holiday. After the lower weekend figures are published I wonder what numbers we’ll see on Tuesday.

Also waiting to see how the UK fares in cases after this weekends pub reopening. I’ve heard my nearest city (Leeds) was not as hectic as expected, so fingers crossed people have behaved
I do not want to see the US figures on Tuesday. It's too depressing.

I do hope all goes well for you in the UK. You guys worked really hard and deserve a reward for that.
 
  • #168
Friends embrace 'Super Saturday' as pubs and bars reopen

A look at pubs from around England today. Open after a 15 week lockdown.

Pubs, cafes restaurants and cinemas in England have opened their doors to customers for the first time in three months.

We asked six young photographers to document what an evening out looked like.

Ceri Oates - Whitby, Yorkshire

The seaside town and port situated on the east coast of Yorkshire is perhaps best known for its strong literary associations - particularly Bram Stoker's Gothic novel Dracula - and the dramatic abbey ruins on the headland overlooking the town.

_113243973_moon-sixpence_02.jpg
Image copyrightCERI OAKES/BBC
Image captionThe Moon and Sixpence, a harbour-side bar, offers views of the historic town. But its popular window seats have been removed to meet social distancing measures.
_113243974_moon-sixpence_04.jpg
Image copyrightCERI OAKES/BBC
Image captionManager Lex Atkinson takes the details of all customers as they come to enjoy an evening out. The bar is offering table service only, and a booking system is in place, with customers limited to a two-hour slot.
_113243975_moon-sixpence_05.jpg
Image copyrightCERI OAKES/BBC
Image captionThese friends who travelled to Whitby from nearby Darlington say they are happy to see bars opening again as it is time to kick-start the economy. They say not seeing their friends is the thing they have missed most over the past three months.
_113243976_moon-sixpence_09.jpg
Image copyrightCERI OAKES/BBC
Image captionEmma Morley and Lee Clarke from Peterborough both work for the NHS, and say they have had a hectic three months. Because of their work, they have been around people throughout the lockdown. "It doesn't really feel any different for us [being out again], we're not having to step out of our comfort zone," says Emma.
_113243977_moon-sixpence_11.jpg
Image copyrightCERI OAKES/BBC
Image captionLex Atkinson admits that a night out at the bar "looks so different to how it did before". She says the reduced capacity will allow them to ease themselves back in gently after three months off. "It means we've got time to enforce the new stricter cleaning procedures such as wiping down till points and menus between every customer with antibacterial spray," she says.
Bex Wade - Soho, London

The weekend marks the end of Pride events in the UK. Covid-19 meant that celebrating LGBT+ rights looked a little different this year with many of the events held virtually.

Image copyrightBEX WADE/BBC
Image caption"We have installed screens between each table, there are sanitiser units around the building and everything is socially distanced," says Jeremy Joseph, owner of G-A-Y. Capacity inside the club has been cut. People give their details before entering, and these are held for 21 days to tie in with the NHS track and trace system.
Image copyrightBEX WADE/BBC
Image caption"To be honest I wouldn't normally be inside a bar but I did miss Pride generally," says Evan, a 32 year old actor (pictured right). He says the atmosphere on Old Compton Street has been "amazing". "This feels the closest to Pride that we could have," he says.
Image copyrightBEX WADE/BBC
Image captionTommy is 25 and also an actor. He says he feels safe with the precautions the bar had in place. "They've put up lots of barriers, so it's a one-way system. There's lots of perspex so that germs can't be spread." He's not so sure about the new rules of having to sit in a booth. "You can't get up and dance," he says.
Image copyrightBEX WADE/BBC
Image captionMichael, a 22-year-old receptionist, (pictured left) was disappointed events had been affected by the lockdown. "It's one of the days of the year that I like to go out and express myself. But it's OK because today it does feel festive - everyone's out and about, and it feels a bit like Pride today."

Continued at link.
 
  • #169
45% of all UK deaths have been in care homes. It’s our saddest legacy - we didn’t look after the oldies quickly enough. We moved all the in-patients out of hospitals to protect them, without realising how many already had Covid and how it would spread like wildfire amongst their carers and peers. The rest will be our tragic history :(

It's our tragic history as well. See link below for an excellent source of information. You can check the data for your own State and county. There is a table showing the percentage of nursing home deaths by state. In NC, my state, 57% of deaths have been in nursing homes. There have been 38 nursing home deaths in my county.

43% of U.S. Coronavirus Deaths Are Linked to Nursing Homes
43% of U.S. Coronavirus Deaths Are Linked to Nursing Homes
By The New York Times
June 27, 2020

"At least 54,000 residents and workers have died from the coronavirus at nursing homes and other long-term care facilities for older adults in the United States, according to a New York Times database. As of June 26, the virus has infected more than 282,000 people at some 12,000 facilities.

Nursing home populations are at a high risk of being infected by — and dying from — the coronavirus, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, is known to be particularly lethal to adults in their 60s and older who have underlying health conditions. And it can spread more easily through congregate facilities, where many people live in a confined environment and workers move from room to room.

While 11 percent of the country’s cases have occurred in long-term care facilities, deaths related to Covid-19 in these facilities account for more than 43 percent of the country’s pandemic fatalities."
...

[BBM]
"The share of deaths linked to long-term care facilities for older adults is even starker at the state level. In 24 states, the number of residents and workers who have died accounts for either half or more than half of all deaths from the virus.

Infected people linked to nursing homes also die at a higher rate than the general population. The median case fatality rate — the number of deaths divided by the number of cases — at facilities with reliable data is 17 percent, significantly higher than the 5 percent case fatality rate nationwide."

This is truly shocking and horrifying.
 
  • #170
There are almost no extra seats on any bus in any of our county school districts - nor in nearby Los Angeles and Riverside Counties.

The buses do not take students who are within about 2 miles of the school. Some kids walk half a mile to avoid walking 1.5 miles.

At any rate, in my actual neighborhood, there are occasional issues with 3 kids to a seat meant for 2. This is SoCal.

They may have extra buses - but it's the extra drivers who are the problem. Hopefully, they can hire a few more in the next month, provisional.

My house is about 7 miles from the high school my girls attended, some people did drive - but the traffic was horrible, especially right at the school.

I had an Uncle who retired from Lockheed and he told us so many stories about the traffic going to and from work, now lives out in the desert, well Palmdale. :) I worry about how it will all come together, maybe different time schedules. It will be a task! Children are already stressed so much with all of the happenings surrounding them. Yet they are more resilient than many of us, if we don't panic perhaps they won't too much, IMO. I wish I was healthier to volunteer in some way.
 
Last edited:
  • #171
Our state of Victoria is 'ring fencing' a further two suburbs in Melbourne to attempt to isolate the virus.

Nine tower blocks are on 'hard lockdown' ..meaning no work, no school, no shopping for essentials, no leaving the tower blocks.
The huge logistical issue is supplying the residents with food and internet connection, and other neccessities, that enable them to live and still have contact with the outside world.

At least 500 police per shift are being utilised to ensure compliancy and non-sharing of space within the suburbs and 9 residential towers that have been ring fenced.

They have also deep cleaned the common areas in the residential tower blocks.


"If this had exploded within the towers and there were literally hundreds and hundreds of people who became infected and they were going about their normal business, some of whom might be in the process of developing symptoms or had very mild symptoms and hadn't been tested, and it would have spread beyond the postcodes even, so I think the early, if imperfect control is the really key element here."
Live: Public housing residents in lockdown won't be charged rent
 
  • #172
  • #173
Our state of Victoria is 'ring fencing' a further two suburbs in Melbourne to attempt to isolate the virus.

Nine tower blocks are on 'hard lockdown' ..meaning no work, no school, no shopping for essentials, no leaving the tower blocks.
The huge logistical issue is supplying the residents with food and internet connection, and other neccessities, that enable them to live and still have contact with the outside world.

At least 500 police per shift are being utilised to ensure compliancy and non-sharing of space within the suburbs and 9 residential towers that have been ring fenced.

They have also deep cleaned the common areas in the residential tower blocks.


"If this had exploded within the towers and there were literally hundreds and hundreds of people who became infected and they were going about their normal business, some of whom might be in the process of developing symptoms or had very mild symptoms and hadn't been tested, and it would have spread beyond the postcodes even, so I think the early, if imperfect control is the really key element here."
Live: Public housing residents in lockdown won't be charged rent

Wow! More stories please! That's amazing. No wonder you all are doing so well.

Keeping the infected away from everyone else is crucial, obviously. 500 police is quite a few.
 
  • #174
In fact, records show Covid-19 cases are rising in 37 states and falling significantly in only one, Vermont.

According to CNN, he (Fauci) and other prominent members of the taskforce, such as Drs Deborah Birx and Robert Redfield, now rarely grant TV interviews. The anonymous source told CNN officials have been unable to gain permission to appear even though “now is the time to be sending a strong public health message”.

Trump claims 'victory' as US sees Covid-19 case records in multiple states
 
  • #175
OT: Lots of great performers on a CNN concert right now!
 
  • #176
How a review of the U.S. response to Covid-19 could get started

Experts want a federal commission to investigate how Covid-19 has been handled by our government-- Sounds great but would there be any accountability following the findings? probably not.

I agree ......

BBM
"There was applause from the guests, but the White House has so far failed to detail what measures it is considering against Beijing, with which it recently struck a major trade deal."

Trump claims 99% of US Covid-19 cases are 'totally harmless' as infections surge
 
Last edited:
  • #177
The issue about Kimberly Guilfoyle is interesting. I posted my opinion about her travel to Montana, how people who come here should be quarantine for two weeks.

People are vile. For some strange reason, people want to defend a person who came to Montana, hosted large parties for raising money, never wore a mask. And tested positive for Covid the next day. I wonder if she knew that she was ill, there have been stories of people who went out when they knew they should have been under quarantine. Rand Paul is one.
 
  • #178
The issue about Kimberly Guilfoyle is interesting. I posted my opinion about her travel to Montana, how people who come here should be quarantine for two weeks.

People are vile. For some strange reason, people want to defend a person who came to Montana, hosted large parties for raising money, never wore a mask. And tested positive for Covid the next day. I wonder if she knew that she was ill, there have been stories of people who went out when they knew they should have been under quarantine. Rand Paul is one.

more Montana news:

Montana's Greg Gianforte suspends in-person campaigning after wife, running mate attended event with Kimberly Guilfoyle

From what I understand, Kimberly was asymptomatic when tested. The only reason she was tested was because she was going to be in the company of the president last night.

Who knows how long she was running around since she last tested. I'm guessing she was last tested in Arizona for that rally.
 
  • #179
  • #180
more Montana news:

Montana's Greg Gianforte suspends in-person campaigning after wife, running mate attended event with Kimberly Guilfoyle

From what I understand, Kimberly was asymptomatic when tested. The only reason she was tested was because she was going to be in the company of the president last night.

Who knows how long she was running around since she last tested. I'm guessing she was last tested in Arizona for that rally.

As she is helping with the presidential campaign, I imagine that other campaign staff may have contracted the virus from her. Surely it is only a matter of time before the president gets near those campaign staff? Are they testing them on a daily basis?

I was wondering, a week or so ago, when the vice president was appearing publicly, if the president was feeling ill (but wasn't mentioning it). But it was around the time that it was stated that the president went for a golfing weekend, so maybe that is why the vice president took the lead for a bit.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
59
Guests online
3,245
Total visitors
3,304

Forum statistics

Threads
632,590
Messages
18,628,840
Members
243,207
Latest member
aseldner
Back
Top