Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #67

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  • #601
UGH Kansas. Every day they change their minds....mandatory masks/not mandatory etc. It's making me even more crazy than I already am. The good news is that I think they are going to cancel the state fair. I've been super worried about that. It's not official yet, but the news said they are leaning that way.

I'm simply amazed at Kentucky. The governor just mandated face masks, but to the best of my knowledge hasn't cancelled the state fair. Jmo
 
  • #602
Thanks for your support. It really is a horror show. I think most of us understand why you have to keep us out for now. And we really are proud of you.:)
Thanks so much. Proud of all you folks who are doing all the right things to protect yourself and others. I miss the U.S. day tripping or visiting my Sister. One day......
 
  • #603
UGH Kansas. Every day they change their minds....mandatory masks/not mandatory etc. It's making me even more crazy than I already am. The good news is that I think they are going to cancel the state fair. I've been super worried about that. It's not official yet, but the news said they are leaning that way.
Our state fair isn't until October, so we may still have a chance. Hopefully, the citizens of my fair state will start taking care of business so we can get rid of this thing and return to some modicum of normalcy by then.
 
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55,000 new cases and +800 dead and today is not over. smh

I don't even know what to say anymore.
 
  • #606
Hmm..

US coronavirus: Hot spots should pause reopening, not shut down again, Fauci now says - CNN

(CNN)States with spiking coronavirus cases still can contain them by pausing their reopening processes, rather than shutting down a second time, one of the nation's top infectious disease experts said Thursday.

Dr. Anthony Fauci's comments at an event hosted by The Hill news outlet contrast with what he said a day earlier: that states with a serious coronavirus problem "should seriously look at shutting down."
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  • #607
55,000 new cases and +800 dead and today is not over. smh

I don't even know what to say anymore.

It sucks being right. We both know that the virus has not changed. We have. The virus is still doing what it's been doing since last December.

It would be so much better if we could ignore it, and watch it disappear, but it's a virus, and it will continue to be a virus regardless of how we choose to handle it.
 
  • #608
Airborne transmission of coronavirus in restaurants, gyms and other closed spaces can't be ruled out, WHO says

The World Health Organization published new guidance Thursday, saying it can’t rule out the possibility that the coronavirus can be transmitted through air particles in closed spaces indoors, including in gyms and restaurants.

The WHO previously acknowledged that the virus may become airborne in certain environments, such as during “medical procedures that generate aerosols.” The new guidance recognizes some research that suggests the virus may be able to spread through particles in the air in “indoor crowded spaces.” It cited “choir practice, in restaurants or in fitness classes” as possible areas of airborne transmission.

“In these events, short-range aerosol transmission, particularly in specific indoor locations, such as crowded and inadequately ventilated spaces over a prolonged period of time with infected persons cannot be ruled out,” the United Nations health agency’s new guidance said.
 
  • #609
Yeah, I figured that was coming for you guys. Sorry, man. We're headed that way, too.

I'm stunned - he didn't close dining rooms - just added a hard cap of 50%. I don't think anyplace I've been has been over 25% full.
 
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Hmm..

US coronavirus: Hot spots should pause reopening, not shut down again, Fauci now says - CNN

(CNN)States with spiking coronavirus cases still can contain them by pausing their reopening processes, rather than shutting down a second time, one of the nation's top infectious disease experts said Thursday.

Dr. Anthony Fauci's comments at an event hosted by The Hill news outlet contrast with what he said a day earlier: that states with a serious coronavirus problem "should seriously look at shutting down."
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He probably got a talking to since yesterday. Poor guy doesn't know if he's coming or going these days. I think he's trying his best though. He's been dreading this event for years but probably never thought it would go down quite like this. I feel for him.
 
  • #612
What's up in Arkansas and Missouri? Both with +800 cases today.
Rt COVID-19

Here's the RT.live graph. It is really weird seeing where all the states were three months ago compared to now. if you look at both on here you can see that Missouri has hardly changed while Arkansas R number jumped up then back down again.
 
  • #613
A client of mine called me to tell me he got it in March. He was working in a small space doing electrical work with a co-worker. The other guy was sniffling. My client told him, “You’re sick. Why don’t you go home and we can do this another day.”

The coworker called him a b word a word p word (jokingly) and laughed him off.

Two days later my client got ill. He called the coworker who said, “Yeah, man. I’m super sick. I’m real sorry.”

My client got a temperature of 107. That’s ONE OH SEVEN. He was gasping for breath. He went to the ER. He got tested. Had it. They gave him medicine and it came down to 105.

They wouldn’t admit him (this is in LA County) because his symptoms weren’t “bad enough”. They sent him home with a nebulizer and told him to come back if it got worse.

He was extremely sick. He has an Orange tree in his yard that produces super sweet oranges. He ate one. It was tasteless. He totally lost his sense of taste.

He was bedridden for about a month. His girlfriend watched him anxiously. She caught it from him but wasn’t as sick.

He still has breathing issues now, all this time later. But he’s not sick anymore. It took a couple months to get better. He couldn’t see his son during that time.

My client is 41 and in good health. He is thought to have very mild asthma for which he never took medicine. His girlfriend is 35.

He called to make sure I wasn’t dead because “I don’t want to have to get a new attorney.” And he knows I have asthma.
 
  • #614
A client of mine called me to tell me he got it in March. He was working in a small space doing electrical work with a co-worker. The other guy was sniffling. My client told him, “You’re sick. Why don’t you go home and we can do this another day.”

The coworker called him a b word a word p word (jokingly) and laughed him off.

Two days later my client got ill. He called the coworker who said, “Yeah, man. I’m super sick. I’m real sorry.”

My client got a temperature of 107. That’s ONE OH SEVEN. He was gasping for breath. He went to the ER. He got tested. Had it. They gave him medicine and it came down to 105.

They wouldn’t admit him (this is in LA County) because his symptoms weren’t “bad enough”. They sent him home with a nebulizer and told him to come back if it got worse.

He was extremely sick. He has an Orange tree in his yard that produces super sweet oranges. He ate one. It was tasteless. He totally lost his sense of taste.

He was bedridden for about a month. His girlfriend watched him anxiously. She caught it from him but wasn’t as sick.

He still has breathing issues now, all this time later. But he’s not sick anymore. It took a couple months to get better. He couldn’t see his son during that time.

My client is 41 and in good health. He is thought to have very mild asthma for which he never took medicine. His girlfriend is 35.

He called to make sure I wasn’t dead because “I don’t want to have to get a new attorney.” And he knows I have asthma.
This along with all other first person events like this should be posted all over. Maybe it would make a difference for all of the dumb people out there that are in denial.

I'm glad he recovered...I hope that he can get rid of all the effects that this horrible virus left him with.
 
  • #615
Bars are taking Governor Ducey to court as well.

Bars take Ducey to court

Bar owners from around the state are asking the Arizona Supreme Court to rule that Gov. Doug Ducey does not have the constitutional authority to shut them – or any other business – down.

Attorney Ilan Wurman is not contending that there is not an emergency due to the COVID-19 outbreak.

But Wurman, an associate professor at Arizona State University, said the law that gives Ducey the unilateral power to do things like close down certain businesses “unconstitutionally delegates the legislative power of this state to the governor. And he wants the justices to not only void the law giving the governor those powers but also declare that any orders Ducey already has made under that law are illegal and cannot be enforced.

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The outcome of the legal fight would affect not just the owners of the 20 bars around the state that are challenging his authority over them but every other kind of business that Ducey has ordered shuttered or whose operations he has directed be curtailed. And it also could affect the governor’s future ability to impose a new stay-at-home order as well as any directives he issues about when schools can and cannot open.

Continued at link.
 
  • #616
Our state fair isn't until October, so we may still have a chance. Hopefully, the citizens of my fair state will start taking care of business so we can get rid of this thing and return to some modicum of normalcy by then.

I hope you can still have your state fair. Oregon canceled our state fair (Aug 28-Sept 7) in early May. Our county fair has also been canceled. The county will have the livestock shows and auctions for the kids who have worked so hard, which I think is really cool.

“At this point, there’s really no way for us to have the carnival here on the grounds and of course no major artists with no mass gatherings,” Helen Funk, Director of the Jackson County Expo, said.

Funk said the Jackson County Expo said it decided to cancel all fair elements due to COVID-19, but will still be holding a virtual livestock show and auction on Facebook for kids in 4H, FFA, or the Junior Livestock Association.

“What will be happening is those adorable kids who have been working so hard on their projects all year long will actually be here showing and selling their animals,” Funk said.

https://ktvl.com/news/local/jackson-county-fair-cancels-all-elements-except-livestock-show


There is another fair in Oregon...The Oregon Country Fair...near Eugene, featuring artisans and performers. This would have been its 51st year and amazingly they are going to pull off a “virtual fair” that sounds really neat.

There is a message on the OCF website that reads: "While we want to hold hands, we will instead hold space—for hope, for each other and for this community-- that under the bleakest of circumstances there is beauty and light that shine through."

'Holding Space Instead Of Hands:' Oregon Country Fair Goes Virtual During Pandemic

The Oregon Country Fair | TicketsWest

Oregon Country Fair - Wikipedia
 
  • #617
55,000 new cases and +800 dead and today is not over. smh

I don't even know what to say anymore.
On top of that, we have testing problems everywhere.

‘A hot mess’: Americans face testing delays as coronavirus cases hit 3 million mark | KTLA
With a cough and shortness of breath, it took Austin, Texas, resident Sam Lee three tries to get a COVID-19 test.

The first time, he showed up an hour before the public testing site was set to close and was told they had reached capacity. He was turned away from a second center when rain shut it down, and voluntarily left a third after someone ahead of him said they had been waiting in line for more than three hours.

“If you have symptoms and you are just driving around the city trying to figure out how you can get a test, for people who are positive, it is not ideal,” said Lee, who finally got a test on June 29 after he showed up at a site before dawn and waited for more than two hours. Another five days passed before he was able to view the results online, and he didn’t receive a text with the results until seven days after being tested.
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“I am stunned that as a nation, six months into this pandemic, we still can’t figure out how to deliver testing to the American people when they need it,” said Dr. Ashish Jha, director of Harvard’s Global Health Institute. “It is an abject failure of leadership and shows that the federal government has not prioritized testing in a way that will allow us to get through this pandemic.”
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San Bernardino County cancels hundreds of coronavirus test appointments, citing shortage | KTLA
San Bernardino County health officials have had to cancel hundreds of appointments for people who signed up to get coronavirus tests, citing a shortage in materials.

“The county’s daily testing capacity has shrunk from about 4,500 to about 1,800,” public information officer David Wert said, adding that the county’s test vendors “are unable to procure supply.”
 
  • #618
Fauci: ‘I Don’t Think You Can Say We’re Doing Great. I Mean, We’re Just Not.’

Fauci: Well, let me say there are parts of the United States, like where you live right now [in New York], that are doing really well, that you’ve been through something really bad and you have things under control. And you have a governor and mayor in the city who understand what it means to go by the guidelines for the gateway, phase one, phase two, phase three. So you’re doing well. Other cities are doing well. But as a country, when you compare us to other countries, I don’t think you can say we’re doing great. I mean, we’re just not.
 
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Fauci: ‘I Don’t Think You Can Say We’re Doing Great. I Mean, We’re Just Not.’

Fauci: Well, let me say there are parts of the United States, like where you live right now [in New York], that are doing really well, that you’ve been through something really bad and you have things under control. And you have a governor and mayor in the city who understand what it means to go by the guidelines for the gateway, phase one, phase two, phase three. So you’re doing well. Other cities are doing well. But as a country, when you compare us to other countries, I don’t think you can say we’re doing great. I mean, we’re just not.

Love this man! More from that interview:

On whether partisanship makes fighting COVID-19 more difficult:

AR You know, for a few months, masks were quite a partisan issue, though in the past few weeks politicians on both sides have advocated for their use. Do you think America’s hyperpartisan environment has made it more difficult to suppress the virus?

AF: You know, I think you’d have to admit that that’s the case. We live, I mean, you have to be having blindfolders on and covering your ears to think that we don’t live in a very divisive society now, from a political standpoint. I mean, it’s just unfortunate, but it is what it is. And you know, from experience historically, that when you don’t have unanimity in an approach to something, you’re not as effective in how you handle it. So I think you’d have to make the assumption that if there wasn’t such divisiveness, that we would have a more coordinated approach.
BBM

Fauci: ‘I Don’t Think You Can Say We’re Doing Great. I Mean, We’re Just Not.’
 
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